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Re: Yamaha T7 Concept
« Reply #500 on: May 11, 2019, 08:52:39 am »
XT500,600 in all guises all have their subframes as integral part of the main frame, never been an issue.

The 690/701 even has plastic sub-frames, and though removable, they do not have issues.

The only bikes with sub-frame issues is the GS and big KTM's.
 

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Re: Yamaha T7 Concept
« Reply #501 on: May 13, 2019, 10:22:08 am »
Really narrow around the crankcases, will go places the 790 can't. :pot:

Really tall in front at the tank - will not go under things the 790 will  :imaposer:
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Re: Yamaha T7 Concept
« Reply #502 on: May 13, 2019, 10:24:27 am »
XT500,600 in all guises all have their subframes as integral part of the main frame, never been an issue.

The 690/701 even has plastic sub-frames, and though removable, they do not have issues.

The only bikes with sub-frame issues is the GS and big KTM's.

Big ktms?
Maybe 990 gang, not aware of issues with the newer generation.

So what's latest release date of T7?
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Re: Yamaha T7 Concept
« Reply #503 on: May 13, 2019, 10:27:07 am »
XT500,600 in all guises all have their subframes as integral part of the main frame, never been an issue.

The 690/701 even has plastic sub-frames, and though removable, they do not have issues.

The only bikes with sub-frame issues is the GS and big KTM's.

Many light bikes also have issues with subframes if loaded - Husky TE610 and 630, small KTM's etc.This is where manufacturers save weight and those frames are there just to hold a mudguard and numberplate.
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Re: Yamaha T7 Concept
« Reply #504 on: May 13, 2019, 04:40:54 pm »
It needs a special kind of subframe to support a fully grown Wilddog.
 

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Re: Yamaha T7 Concept
« Reply #505 on: May 13, 2019, 06:21:35 pm »
It needs a special kind of subframe to support a fully grown Wilddog.

Indeed! :imaposer: :imaposer:
 

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Re: Yamaha T7 Concept
« Reply #506 on: May 13, 2019, 09:21:50 pm »
XT500,600 in all guises all have their subframes as integral part of the main frame, never been an issue.

The 690/701 even has plastic sub-frames, and though removable, they do not have issues.

The only bikes with sub-frame issues is the GS and big KTM's.

Not entirely true in respect of the 690 either - the rear holding bolts of the monocoque frame (read fuel tank) are a known weakness and fail. There are after market uprated ones made and sold by a number of guys.
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Re: Yamaha T7 Concept
« Reply #507 on: May 13, 2019, 10:11:07 pm »
XT500,600 in all guises all have their subframes as integral part of the main frame, never been an issue.

The 690/701 even has plastic sub-frames, and though removable, they do not have issues.

The only bikes with sub-frame issues is the GS and big KTM's.

Not entirely true in respect of the 690 either - the rear holding bolts of the monocoque frame (read fuel tank) are a known weakness and fail. There are after market uprated ones made and sold by a number of guys.

When these bolts started showing up as weak points, it was said that they are sacrificial to avoid tank cracks/breaking. 

But I have yet to see a broken tank on a 690/701.
 

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Re: Yamaha T7 Concept
« Reply #508 on: May 14, 2019, 07:27:42 am »
XT500,600 in all guises all have their subframes as integral part of the main frame, never been an issue.

The 690/701 even has plastic sub-frames, and though removable, they do not have issues.

The only bikes with sub-frame issues is the GS and big KTM's.

Not entirely true in respect of the 690 either - the rear holding bolts of the monocoque frame (read fuel tank) are a known weakness and fail. There are after market uprated ones made and sold by a number of guys.

When these bolts started showing up as weak points, it was said that they are sacrificial to avoid tank cracks/breaking. 

But I have yet to see a broken tank on a 690/701.

Interesting - first I have heard of them being sacrificial ... sound like spin doctoring. Maybe the failing fuel pumps are also sacrificial to save petrol  :imaposer:
If the bolts give the forces will be transferred elsewhere a fuck something else up. Rottweiler and others sell replacement units. Interestingly enough I have not heard of a failure on a 701 and it is possible they have been upgraded.
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Re: Yamaha T7 Concept
« Reply #509 on: May 14, 2019, 01:44:27 pm »
Yamaha should bring out the T7 with the Niken GT front end.

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I would have thought most Yammie fans would be happy if they finally brought out the bike......... with any front end :pot:

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Re: Yamaha T7 Concept
« Reply #510 on: May 14, 2019, 01:49:58 pm »
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Re: Yamaha T7 Concept
« Reply #511 on: May 14, 2019, 02:29:43 pm »
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Re: Yamaha T7 Concept
« Reply #512 on: May 14, 2019, 03:49:54 pm »
And specs indicate that it lighter than the 790 - surprised me!

205kg wet.
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« Reply #513 on: May 14, 2019, 07:32:16 pm »
And specs indicate that it lighter than the 790 - surprised me!

205kg wet.

Hard to believe.
 

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Re: Yamaha T7 Concept
« Reply #514 on: May 14, 2019, 07:58:24 pm »
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Re: Yamaha T7 Concept
« Reply #515 on: May 14, 2019, 07:59:07 pm »
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« Reply #516 on: May 14, 2019, 07:59:22 pm »
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Re: Yamaha T7 Concept
« Reply #517 on: May 14, 2019, 08:41:07 pm »
Interesting - first I have heard of them being sacrificial ... sound like spin doctoring. Maybe the failing fuel pumps are also sacrificial to save petrol  :imaposer:

 :spitcoffee:

If the bolts give the forces will be transferred elsewhere a fuck something else up. Rottweiler and others sell replacement units. Interestingly enough I have not heard of a failure on a 701 and it is possible they have been upgraded.

Or maybe standing with fuel pump issues places the least stain on them...just asking.  :P

At the Tankwa there was a number of said failures, even the 350's in the off road class.
Notably, Kenny Gilberts bike did not even splutter - is their a fix?

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Re: Yamaha T7 Concept
« Reply #518 on: May 14, 2019, 09:14:59 pm »
Interesting - first I have heard of them being sacrificial ... sound like spin doctoring. Maybe the failing fuel pumps are also sacrificial to save petrol  :imaposer:

 :spitcoffee:

If the bolts give the forces will be transferred elsewhere a fuck something else up. Rottweiler and others sell replacement units. Interestingly enough I have not heard of a failure on a 701 and it is possible they have been upgraded.

Or maybe standing with fuel pump issues places the least stain on them...just asking.  :P

At the Tankwa there was a number of said failures, even the 350's in the off road class.
Notably, Kenny Gilberts bike did not even splutter - is their a fix?

The fix is to remove the in tank fuel filter and move it to the outside where it can be regularly checked and serviced. I believe the pumps go belly up due to the filters blocking and putting strain on the pumps.
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Re: Yamaha T7 Concept
« Reply #519 on: May 14, 2019, 10:23:05 pm »
Interesting - first I have heard of them being sacrificial ... sound like spin doctoring. Maybe the failing fuel pumps are also sacrificial to save petrol  :imaposer:

 :spitcoffee:

If the bolts give the forces will be transferred elsewhere a fuck something else up. Rottweiler and others sell replacement units. Interestingly enough I have not heard of a failure on a 701 and it is possible they have been upgraded.

Or maybe standing with fuel pump issues places the least stain on them...just asking.  :P

At the Tankwa there was a number of said failures, even the 350's in the off road class.
Notably, Kenny Gilberts bike did not even splutter - is their a fix?

The fix is to remove the in tank fuel filter and move it to the outside where it can be regularly checked and serviced. I believe the pumps go belly up due to the filters blocking and putting strain on the pumps.

The pump proudly proclaiming "made in China" does not help either. Serious.