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Yamaha T7 - No longer a Concept
« Reply #2700 on: September 03, 2020, 06:29:37 pm »
Altie, do you honestly believe that a Husky 701 at R170 000 is better value than a T& at R200 000?

Support your answer, if yes. Why do you say so?

Ja oom Dan, ek glo die 701 is sy 170k uit en uit werd, en sal dit betaal bo die 200k van die T7.
Ja, die 701 het 20 persent opgegaan in prys van verlede jaar, het die ander vervaardigers nie ook opgegaan nie?
Vir jou 170k kry jy `n scrambler met n betroubare hoe verrigting enjin, FI, WP suspension, en fokol screen of subframe.
Dit is `n narrow focus bike, maar uitstekend in wat dit doen.
Dit kan baie goed nie doen wat jy met `n T7 doen nie, maar dan het jy nog nooit Pol nodig gehad om die 701 verkoop te kry nie.
Die ouens wat die 701 kry, doen almal hulle eie stunts.
Die 701 sal waarskynlik dood wees teen 100k op die enjin, en die T7 nog lekker loop, maar in daai 100k sal die 701 baie meer gedoen het as die T7 en baie meer plesier verskaf het. Dan gaan koop jy weer n 701.
JA, as jy die Toyota-hou-vir-ewig-en-gaan-goed-herverkoop waarde nastreef gaan jy dood gelukkig wees met die T7.
Ek redeneer nie so as dit by bikes kom nie.
En ek glo nie oom Dan redeneer so nie, selfs `n 690 wat in die straat aan die brand slaan was nie genoeg om weg te stap nie.
Terwyl ons praat van die Toyota waarde by bikes, teen 200k vir die T7 sal 165k vir n 850 en 185k vir AT ook `n uitstekende belegging van jou geld wees.

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Re: Yamaha T7 - No longer a Concept
« Reply #2701 on: September 03, 2020, 06:30:34 pm »
Altie, do you honestly believe that a Husky 701 at R170 000 is better value than a T& at R200 000?

Support your answer, if yes. Why do you say so?

Ja oom Dan, ek glo die 701 is sy 170k uit en uit werd, en sal dit betaal bo die 200k van die T7.
Ja, die 701 het 20 persent opgegaan in prys van verlede jaar, het die ander vervaardigers nie ook opgegaan nie?
Vir jou 170k kry jy `n scrambler met n betroubare hoe verrigting enjin, FI, WP suspension, en fokol screen of subframe.
Dit is `n narrow focus bike, maar uitstekend in wat dit doen.
Dit kan baie goed nie doen wat jy met `n T7 doen nie, maar dan het jy nog nooit Pol nodig gehad om die 701 verkoop te kry nie.
Die ouens wat die 701 kry, doen almal hulle eie stunts.
Die 701 sal waarskynlik dood wees teen 100k op die enjin, en die T7 nog lekker loop, maar in daai 100k sal die 701 baie meer gedoen het as die T7 en baie meer plesier verskaf het. Dan gaan koop jy weer n 701.
JA, as jy die Toyota-hou-vir-ewig-en-gaan-goed-herverkoop waarde nastreef gaan jy dood gelukkig wees met die T7.
Ek redeneer nie so as dit by bikes kom nie.
En ek glo nie oom Dan redeneer so nie, selfs `n 690 wat in die straat aan die brand slaan was nie genoeg om weg te stap nie.
Terwyl ons praat van die Toyota waarde by bikes, teen 200k vir die T7 sal 165k vir n 850 en 185k vir AT ook `n uitstekende belegging van jou geld wees.

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Re: Yamaha T7 - No longer a Concept
« Reply #2702 on: September 03, 2020, 08:24:54 pm »
Kyk, ek moet maar toegee, al is ek n geharde Yamaha fan, R200 000 is n bietjie knap vir die T7.

Dit is verseker n baie lekker fiets, en al sy toetse kom grootliks positief deur, maar daar is dinge soos verrigting en suspensie, wat vir party mense sal kort skiet.

Dan weer, as ons werklik eerlik is, is die 790 vir meeste te veel fiets, en sal selfs die T7 deur min tot sy perke gebruik word.
 

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Re: Yamaha T7 - No longer a Concept
« Reply #2703 on: September 03, 2020, 08:51:43 pm »
Kyk, ek moet maar toegee, al is ek n geharde Yamaha fan, R200 000 is n bietjie knap vir die T7.

Dit is verseker n baie lekker fiets, en al sy toetse kom grootliks positief deur, maar daar is dinge soos verrigting en suspensie, wat vir party mense sal kort skiet.

Dan weer, as ons werklik eerlik is, is die 790 vir meeste te veel fiets, en sal selfs die T7 deur min tot sy perke gebruik word.
Jy mors met die banter potensiaal van die thread as jy begin sense praat

 
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Re: Yamaha T7 - No longer a Concept
« Reply #2704 on: September 03, 2020, 08:57:02 pm »
Kyk, ek moet maar toegee, al is ek n geharde Yamaha fan, R200 000 is n bietjie knap vir die T7.

Dit is verseker n baie lekker fiets, en al sy toetse kom grootliks positief deur, maar daar is dinge soos verrigting en suspensie, wat vir party mense sal kort skiet.

Dan weer, as ons werklik eerlik is, is die 790 vir meeste te veel fiets, en sal selfs die T7 deur min tot sy perke gebruik word.
Jy mors met die banter potensiaal van die thread as jy begin sense praat

Ek maak julle net gerus, dan looi ek weer onder julle. :deal:
 

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Re: Yamaha T7 - No longer a Concept
« Reply #2705 on: September 03, 2020, 08:59:39 pm »
Kyk, ek moet maar toegee, al is ek n geharde Yamaha fan, R200 000 is n bietjie knap vir die T7.

Dit is verseker n baie lekker fiets, en al sy toetse kom grootliks positief deur, maar daar is dinge soos verrigting en suspensie, wat vir party mense sal kort skiet.

Dan weer, as ons werklik eerlik is, is die 790 vir meeste te veel fiets, en sal selfs die T7 deur min tot sy perke gebruik word.
Jy mors met die banter potensiaal van die thread as jy begin sense praat

Ek maak julle net gerus, dan looi ek weer onder julle. :deal:
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Re: Yamaha T7 - No longer a Concept
« Reply #2706 on: September 03, 2020, 11:14:14 pm »


So this bike is priced at $9,999.00 in the USA. The current exchange rate is R16.9/1$ so if you did a direct conversion, it would be priced closer to the R170k mark. Then you take their fancy purchasing power parity equasion into account and the bike should be even cheaper.

Is this another case of guvemunt taxing homologation and customs duty to hell? 

I'm guessing it's not a Yamaha problem.....or Mr Facebrook is taking the early bird catches the extra 30k worm.
Exactly the T7 is praised the world over for it's good pricing. If it's different in SA don't blame the bike

No, you cant blame the bike or Bidvest for the pricing.
Only Yamaha.

Given the current rate of corruption in ZA, who knows who's to blame?

Where I stay, the 790r is 40% more expensive than the T7.
€16400 vs €11600

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Re: Yamaha T7 - No longer a Concept
« Reply #2707 on: September 03, 2020, 11:16:13 pm »
And that's now.
IIRC, the launch special was sub 10k

At 60% less, its a no-brainer.
Too bad the ANC/Bidvest/whatever is braindead on your side.

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Re: Yamaha T7 - No longer a Concept
« Reply #2708 on: September 04, 2020, 06:09:28 am »
Kyk, ek moet maar toegee, al is ek n geharde Yamaha fan, R200 000 is n bietjie knap vir die T7.

Dit is verseker n baie lekker fiets, en al sy toetse kom grootliks positief deur, maar daar is dinge soos verrigting en suspensie, wat vir party mense sal kort skiet.

Dan weer, as ons werklik eerlik is, is die 790 vir meeste te veel fiets, en sal selfs die T7 deur min tot sy perke gebruik word.
Jy mors met die banter potensiaal van die thread as jy begin sense praat

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Re: Yamaha T7 - No longer a Concept
« Reply #2709 on: September 04, 2020, 07:23:07 am »
the T7 is praised the world over for it's good pricing. If it's different in SA don't blame the bike

Now 'our' T7 lacks the very-clear price advantage it has just about anywhere else, and that WILL reflect in sales numbers because the opposition, I think 790 mainly, offers more for relatively little more money.... so don't expect a queue at the dealers like there was for the 790  ;)



I would just like to rectify this comment.

The 790 offers more for less money.
the 790 S competes with the T7, not the R.
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Re: Yamaha T7 - No longer a Concept
« Reply #2710 on: September 04, 2020, 08:14:14 am »
No contest, T7 every time
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Re: Yamaha T7 - No longer a Concept
« Reply #2711 on: September 04, 2020, 08:17:23 am »
Has anyone from Yamaha even confirmed the R200k price tag ?
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Re: Yamaha T7 - No longer a Concept
« Reply #2712 on: September 04, 2020, 08:47:36 am »


Quote from: sidetrack on Today at 08:17:23 am>Has anyone from Yamaha even confirmed the R200k price tag ?
Yes, I have had an e-mail from them (Yamaha), 30th July 2020, confirming a working price of R198,950 incl vat.
However, there is a caveat, you pay a non-refundable deposit of R10,000, and the CEILING price C-A-N (not will...) go as high as R210K, and then you agree to buy it at that raised price; if however it is LESS than R198,950, you would score.
However that deposit is non-refundable up to the R210K ceiling price, since they are at the mercy/vagaries of the exchange rate.
You can get your non-refundable R10K deposit back if the price then exceeds R210K.
Do NOT shoot the messenger here, I held off posting pricing info here, WHICH WAS CORRECT AT TIME THEY WROTE TO RETAILERS, ETC - I held off because I did not want a negativity sh!t storm surrounding a - by all accounts - very capable bike - when no one knows exactly what the final price would be, so please post with a degree of compassion, and not throw the baby out with the bathwater.
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Re: Yamaha T7 - No longer a Concept
« Reply #2713 on: September 04, 2020, 08:49:10 am »


Quote from: sidetrack on Today at 08:17:23 am>Has anyone from Yamaha even confirmed the R200k price tag ?
Yes, I have had an e-mail from them (Yamaha), 30th July 2020, confirming a working price of R198,950 incl vat.
However, there is a caveat, you pay a non-refundable deposit of R10,000, and the CEILING price C-A-N (not will...) go as high as R210K, and then you agree to buy it at that raised price; if however it is LESS than R198,950, you would score.
However that deposit is non-refundable up to the R210K ceiling price, since they are at the mercy/vagaries of the exchange rate.
You can get your non-refundable R10K deposit back if the price then exceeds R210K.
Do NOT shoot the messenger here, I held off posting pricing info here, WHICH WAS CORRECT AT TIME THEY WROTE TO RETAILERS, ETC - I held off because I did not want a negativity sh!t storm surrounding a - by all accounts - very capable bike - when no one knows exactly what the final price would be, so please post with a degree of compassion, and not throw the baby out with the bathwater.
Cheers
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Re: Yamaha T7 - No longer a Concept
« Reply #2714 on: September 04, 2020, 08:49:38 am »


Quote from: sidetrack on Today at 08:17:23 am>Has anyone from Yamaha even confirmed the R200k price tag ?
Yes, I have had an e-mail from them (Yamaha), 30th July 2020, confirming a working price of R198,950 incl vat.
However, there is a caveat, you pay a non-refundable deposit of R10,000, and the CEILING price C-A-N (not will...) go as high as R210K, and then you agree to buy it at that raised price; if however it is LESS than R198,950, you would score.
However that deposit is non-refundable up to the R210K ceiling price, since they are at the mercy/vagaries of the exchange rate.
You can get your non-refundable R10K deposit back if the price then exceeds R210K.
Do NOT shoot the messenger here, I held off posting pricing info here, WHICH WAS CORRECT AT TIME THEY WROTE TO RETAILERS, ETC - I held off because I did not want a negativity sh!t storm surrounding a - by all accounts - very capable bike - when no one knows exactly what the final price would be, so please post with a degree of compassion, and not throw the baby out with the bathwater.
Cheers
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Re: Yamaha T7 - No longer a Concept
« Reply #2715 on: September 04, 2020, 09:53:10 am »


Quote from: sidetrack on Today at 08:17:23 am>Has anyone from Yamaha even confirmed the R200k price tag ?
Yes, I have had an e-mail from them (Yamaha), 30th July 2020, confirming a working price of R198,950 incl vat.
However, there is a caveat, you pay a non-refundable deposit of R10,000, and the CEILING price C-A-N (not will...) go as high as R210K, and then you agree to buy it at that raised price; if however it is LESS than R198,950, you would score.
However that deposit is non-refundable up to the R210K ceiling price, since they are at the mercy/vagaries of the exchange rate.
You can get your non-refundable R10K deposit back if the price then exceeds R210K.
Do NOT shoot the messenger here, I held off posting pricing info here, WHICH WAS CORRECT AT TIME THEY WROTE TO RETAILERS, ETC - I held off because I did not want a negativity sh!t storm surrounding a - by all accounts - very capable bike - when no one knows exactly what the final price would be, so please post with a degree of compassion, and not throw the baby out with the bathwater.
Cheers
Chris



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Re: Yamaha T7 - No longer a Concept
« Reply #2716 on: September 04, 2020, 10:05:46 am »


Quote from: MonkeyNot on Today at 09:53:10 am
Thanks Chris
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Re: Yamaha T7 - No longer a Concept
« Reply #2717 on: September 04, 2020, 11:47:30 am »


So this bike is priced at $9,999.00 in the USA. The current exchange rate is R16.9/1$ so if you did a direct conversion, it would be priced closer to the R170k mark. Then you take their fancy purchasing power parity equasion into account and the bike should be even cheaper.

Is this another case of guvemunt taxing homologation and customs duty to hell? 

I'm guessing it's not a Yamaha problem.....or Mr Facebrook is taking the early bird catches the extra 30k worm.
Exactly the T7 is praised the world over for it's good pricing. If it's different in SA don't blame the bike

No, you cant blame the bike or Bidvest for the pricing.
Only Yamaha.

Given the current rate of corruption in ZA, who knows who's to blame?

Where I stay, the 790r is 40% more expensive than the T7.
€16400 vs €11600

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]€11600[/ = R228752.00

€16400 = R323408.00

At today's exchange rate of R19.72/ Euro

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Re: Yamaha T7 - No longer a Concept
« Reply #2718 on: September 04, 2020, 12:10:00 pm »
R200k for this bike is a bargain!

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Re: Yamaha T7 - No longer a Concept
« Reply #2719 on: September 04, 2020, 12:12:51 pm »
[]€11600[/ = R228752.00

€16400 = R323408.00

At today's exchange rate of R19.72/ Euro

The KTM is now deeply discounted here in UK... a standard T7 comes in at 9199 and the discounted 790  can be had for around 9700.

One can get discounted T7 for around 8999 out the door.
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