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Offline Whatsupwes

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BMW G310GS
« on: November 08, 2016, 01:23:09 pm »
Saw this earlier today? Might make a nice short distance commuter, but surely pricey.....and those wheels... :'(

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Re: BMW G310GS
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2016, 06:48:42 pm »
Fugly. And looks like it was made in China


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Re: BMW G310GS
« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2016, 06:56:33 am »
I quite like it, not sure why "Adventure" it, it looks to be good only for commuting, reminds me of the KTM 300
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Re: BMW G310GS
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2016, 07:31:41 am »
It has a reverse-cylinder-head.

Seen that somewhere else before.
 

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Re: BMW G310GS
« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2016, 07:48:12 am »
Hmmm, like the styling.

High suspension - check
Bash plate - check
Flimsy looking mags - WTF? Hope they have spoke as option, otherwise this is just not really an adventure bike.

On the whole, I like it. Rest assured BMW will not put their badge on something that is a ching-chong-along wannabe, this will be a good bike. And then, putting their (very valuable) GS branding on it, tells me they have confidence in this machine.

Pricing, though... waiting...
 

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Re: BMW G310GS
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2016, 08:15:38 am »
It has a reverse-cylinder-head.

Seen that somewhere else before.
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Re: BMW G310GS
« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2016, 09:13:03 am »
Uses Yamaha technology, but made in India, with a German badge. How to split Dan's allegiance. I await the HP310.
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Re: BMW G310GS
« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2016, 09:20:27 am »
I like the look ... when will it be locally available?
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Re: BMW G310GS
« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2016, 12:47:46 pm »
This bike is clearly aimed at the commuter market. BMW has really put a lot into this machine and in essence it is a BMW built in India at a BMW factory.

Interesting article: "Up until today, the smallest gelande strasse BMW has ever offered has been the G650GS. Well, move over G650GS, because the new-for-2017 G310GS undercuts you by 339cc, 56 pounds, 16 hp, and likely a few thousand bucks.
That’s right, BMW took its recently announced, Indian-made G310R naked bike and ran it through the GS machine. That means a larger 19-inch front wheel, dual-purpose tires, extra suspension travel (1.6 inches in the front and 2 inches in the rear), a wider handlebar with more backsweep, serrated footpegs, a higher 32.9-inch seat, a luggage rack, and of course GS-inspired bodywork with a pretty puny windscreen. There’s also a different muffler cover and a unique triple clamp with “GS” embossed in the upper clamp. The standard-issue ABS is even disableable."

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Re: BMW G310GS
« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2016, 01:16:03 pm »
Toyota is made in Durban. Nothing wrong with India. :pot:
 
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Re: BMW G310GS
« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2016, 01:17:53 pm »
Price of this little bad boy is estimated to be between 70k - 75k. Quite the price tag for a 300cc.........or not?  :deal: :sip:
 

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Re: BMW G310GS
« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2016, 03:10:47 pm »
Hmmm, like the styling.

High suspension - check
Bash plate - check
Flimsy looking mags - WTF? Hope they have spoke as option, otherwise this is just not really an adventure bike.

On the whole, I like it. Rest assured BMW will not put their badge on something that is a ching-chong-along wannabe, this will be a good bike. And then, putting their (very valuable) GS branding on it, tells me they have confidence in this machine.

Pricing, though... waiting...

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Re: BMW G310GS
« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2016, 05:20:17 pm »
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Re: BMW G310GS
« Reply #13 on: November 09, 2016, 06:14:09 pm »
Though I'm still not convinced with the styling and this is unchartered territory for BMW I am sure they can pull it off successfully.

Regardless of what some people might think of the BMW range of bikes, there are two things BMW does better than it's rivals. 1) They understand that bikes are now a luxury item. 2) in order to be successful, they need to get them sold, service them, build a loyal customer base so that they can get some more sold down the line. Harley enjoys the same success with their regular good deals on Sportsters & the also Indian built Street 750.

This bike might not me my taste, but it will put bums on seats in a wider spectrum of potential buyers, introduce them to the brand and get them to upgrade to the bigger models as time goes by.

All bikes are expensive these days...if BMW can get this on the floors for R 70 000, it will fall slap bang in the ballpark of it's rivals, the KTM 390, Kawasaki 300, Honda 300 etc. They all cost that much anyway, Kawasaki even has a 300 Ninja model for R 80 000. What is interesting to me is that the technology has gone forward with this engine size. Their power outputs are around the same as the 600s & 650s of a few years ago. I think we must see the price tag as ...what we might have hoped to pay now for a new 650. Simple economics ... and a certain sweet potato shape headed guy at the helm of SA makes this impossible.   

If BMW could now relaunch the old G450X, but with this engine as a G310X, I would have been the first on the waiting list.

I don't like the pimped Bajaj Pulsar look, but hey...I don't need to buy one. But someone else will and they'll have lots of fun on it  :thumleft: 
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Re: BMW G310GS
« Reply #14 on: November 09, 2016, 08:36:48 pm »
It is funny ... more in a sad way ... that we tend to call everything kak ....  now I know kak is a lekker word ... it is so expressive and can articulate a number of emotions just by the intonation of the way you say it . But why do we use it in this way I don't know... it is weird for me .... are we so hang up with our own brand that we have to call everything not invented here , kak  ... we havent seen it even , ridden it , toughed it , heard of it , no-one have reviewed it ...... so  it must be kak ,right ?

and that is sad  :(
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Re: BMW G310GS
« Reply #15 on: November 09, 2016, 09:38:12 pm »
If BMW could now relaunch the old G450X, but with this engine as a G310X....

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Re: BMW G310GS
« Reply #16 on: November 09, 2016, 09:43:25 pm »
It is funny ... more in a sad way ... that we tend to call everything kak ....  now I know kak is a lekker word ... it is so expressive and can articulate a number of emotions just by the intonation of the way you say it . But why do we use it in this way I don't know... it is weird for me .... are we so hang up with our own brand that we have to call everything not invented here , kak  ... we havent seen it even , ridden it , toughed it , heard of it , no-one have reviewed it ...... so  it must be kak ,right ?

and that is sad  :(

Tata, Mahindra, Bajaj, Enfield, all brand names built in India, and all sub-standard quality. Ok, you pay, sort of, sub-standard price for it, but you get what you pay for.

My point with the BMW is that it will be Indian quality, and BMW pricing. See it like buying a Tata and paying HiLux price.
 

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« Reply #17 on: November 10, 2016, 04:44:25 am »
Whether you like it or not is personal opinion, if it puts more bums on bikes and growths the biking community then I say, bring it on!
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Re: BMW G310GS
« Reply #18 on: November 10, 2016, 06:07:20 am »
It is funny ... more in a sad way ... that we tend to call everything kak ....  now I know kak is a lekker word ... it is so expressive and can articulate a number of emotions just by the intonation of the way you say it . But why do we use it in this way I don't know... it is weird for me .... are we so hang up with our own brand that we have to call everything not invented here , kak  ... we havent seen it even , ridden it , toughed it , heard of it , no-one have reviewed it ...... so  it must be kak ,right ?

and that is sad  :(

Tata, Mahindra, Bajaj, Enfield, all brand names built in India, and all sub-standard quality. Ok, you pay, sort of, sub-standard price for it, but you get what you pay for.

My point with the BMW is that it will be Indian quality, and BMW pricing. See it like buying a Tata and paying HiLux price.

It is called globalisation and business. 

The 750 Harley, all the small KTMs come from India and all small and they are selling like hot cakes all over the world, priced perfectly for the particular market it is sold into.  It is the way of the modern world.  If they will sell at BMW prices, it is what they will cost.  It is not as if Yamaha or Hilux are all that affordable in SA, purely because they sell at the price.
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Re: BMW G310GS
« Reply #19 on: November 10, 2016, 06:40:49 am »
+1

if I can ad to what TheBear is saying...

The first misconception we need to clear out is this issue around BMW pricing. Their new bike prices, prices of spares & servicing is absolutely in line with the rest.

Mainstream manufacturers setting up factories in places like India, Romania & Russia is the way of the world. Toyota Etios, Honda Brio range, Honda Ballade, Honda HRV, Suzuki's whole car range, and the whole Renault Sandero range is currently built there. It makes sense due to cheaper labour, especially when building basic transport for the masses. When the original Mini was launched around 1960...it was made in Britain, but it was priced at something like 495 pounds. Now that sounded all good...but British Leyland lost money on every single one ever sold, because they cost too much to build.

As said in my previous post, building bikes of this size is unchartered territory for BMW. Where this is made...in heavily congested India, bikes of around 300cc or less that gets manufactured & sold in millions is the norm. For BMW rather partnering up with such a manufacturer who specialises in this type of thing is the right thing to do.

If they set up a German factory from scratch that only builds G310 range...they might glue them together well, but they will have to price themselves out of the market due to simple economics.  :thumleft:



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