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Offline Odd Dog

Re: BMW G310GS
« Reply #160 on: September 25, 2017, 02:35:26 pm »
No spoked wheels on the GS version?
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Re: BMW G310GS
« Reply #161 on: September 25, 2017, 03:14:41 pm »
Opinions on a bike not yet ridden are not worth the breath used to deliver them. Over time this bike might prove to be a dog or a star. I think this style and size of bike will do wonders for the SA motorcycling scene and that is what really excites me. I hope to see a lot of new bikers on small BMs KTMs , Kawas , Hondas Yammies and whatever bike the rider fancies and can afford. After all it is about the ride.

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Re: BMW G310GS
« Reply #162 on: September 26, 2017, 10:46:20 am »
Seems the opinion on the reviewer is quite good though :)
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Re: BMW G310GS
« Reply #163 on: September 27, 2017, 03:21:20 pm »
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Re: BMW G310GS
« Reply #164 on: October 04, 2017, 10:52:21 pm »
Just in case 2StrokeDan forgot about this thread, I found another review of the 310GS.




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Offline Omninorm

Re: BMW G310GS
« Reply #165 on: October 09, 2017, 10:29:24 am »
Rally Raid giving a teaser what they will have available soon. That looks like a 21" Front wheel to me.

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Offline blauth

Re: BMW G310GS
« Reply #166 on: October 09, 2017, 10:34:27 am »
I think this is what it should have been in the first place from BMW however I can understand that to bring a bike  into the market at sub 70k, things like quality spoke wheels is somewhat of an accounting challenge.

Offline eddyVN

Re: BMW G310GS
« Reply #167 on: October 09, 2017, 10:43:36 am »
Front wheel is pretty much the same height as back wheel. So not a 21 on Rally Raids. A 21 wheel at the expected 90/90 21 or there abouts would be visually taller?
 

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Re: BMW G310GS
« Reply #168 on: October 09, 2017, 10:59:30 am »
Front wheel is pretty much the same height as back wheel. So not a 21 on Rally Raids. A 21 wheel at the expected 90/90 21 or there abouts would be visually taller?

Good point, then probably just a 19"
Unless the rear is also changed to an 18" to keep the same geometry.

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Re: BMW G310GS
« Reply #169 on: October 09, 2017, 12:00:18 pm »
During the Bike of the Year testing the G310R was one of the most popular bikes to ride, and was chosen over the Kawa 300 Versys. Lighter, faster, more torque. Sounds like it  has a lot going for it. The R is not a big bike though - it does not fit my 2m frame. It will be interesting to see if the 310GS is better.
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Re: BMW G310GS
« Reply #170 on: October 09, 2017, 03:42:00 pm »
Could be a 19 up front if one look at the intersection of the rim and shock compared to the original as well as the gap between the tire and the mudguard.

They had to make their own ABS ring as the original is cast in the hub. Easy peasy then to 'balance' the ABS with the bigger front.  Also a new rear shock is fitted to 'level' everything again if the rear is the same. Looks like that.

It is not that simple to just add 3" (38mm) (18" to 21") to the bike in the front without compensating at the rear.  The whole geometry will be off including head angle, castor, sidestand lean etc etc.  Ask me, I tried that and it was a ballsup. (On the 1200GS/A it is not a bis issue as the suspension geometry change dramatically with compression.

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Offline blauth

Re: BMW G310GS
« Reply #171 on: October 10, 2017, 11:26:16 am »
I chose to give the little G310 the benefit of the doubt based on the history of the manufacturer and listening to the German engineer responsible for the design of the G310, it's got a lot of potential.

- Spoke wheels are relatively easy to do after the fact and quite frankly, for what it is, I'd keep the 19"/17" wheel configuration. This bike is simply not a Rally bike, it's an all rounder that is meant to commute well and be reasonably capable off-tar.
- The suspension (180mm) is adequate for gravel travel if damped and sprung correctly. I think the purpose is Gravel Travel and not hard core enduro so fit for purpose I'd say.
- The long swingarm makes a huge difference with stability of a bike and they've thought about this.
- Aftermarket windscreen may be needed but I don't consider that to be a big deal. It would also look neat if the windscreen was a little more upright but that may cause buffeting. Some sort of adjustable option would have been nice. It's weird that this is not in their aftermarket parts catalog.
- The little bike has a cush drive, something omitted from a lot of smaller bikes. I think this is great because it will just assist in increasing the longevity of the chain, sprockets and drive-train.
- Range is adequate, according to them 330km but probably 275 realistically.


Personally, for a person who want to commute every day of the week to work and back and go on the weekend excursion out of town, I think this is a great fit. It's naturally aimed at someone purchasing on a budget but this makes sense.....cheaper to buy, cheaper to run, cheaper to insure and it can still do all it's tasks adequately and more.....and if something goes wrong, they will have spares in country and it can be repaired immediately.

Personally, I think it looks pretty good too, especially in blue and white.

Offline Oubones

Re: BMW G310GS
« Reply #172 on: October 10, 2017, 03:28:04 pm »


I fortunately don't see a issue/difference.
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I agree wholeheartedly, I ride what I have and do not care what you ride as long as it puts a smile on your face.
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Re: BMW G310GS
« Reply #173 on: October 11, 2017, 09:11:06 am »
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http://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/first-rides-tests/best-4-things-about-bmw-g310-gs/

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We rode BMW's new G310 GS in Spain yesterday. Getting mucky off-road here are four things we like about the baby GS and two things we don't.

Small and light
BMW are claiming a ready-to-run weight of only 169kg. The standard seat height is 835mm, but this can be lowered further to 820mm.

Inexpensive
The standard G310 GS is listed at 5100, that is a whopping 7300 cheaper than its big brother, the standard R1200 GS at 12,400. For reference the standard F800 GS is 9195 and the F700 GS is 8020.

How the baby GS looks
Youd never guess the small GS was actually made in India by BMWs partner TVS. If you removed all the logos and badges it would still be identifiable as a BMW and part of the GS family you could mistakenly think it was made in Munich. The overall finish is impressive, considering the price.

Easy-to-ride
The baby GS is exceptionally easy to ride, especially for inexperienced riders. The single-cylinder engine is effortless, the clutch is light and the gearbox is positive. The turning circle is very small. It's an ideal bike for learners.

What we dont like
Soft set-up
The suspension is on the soft side, the forks dive faster than Tom Daley and the rear lacks control when ridden hard.

Levers...
The clutch and brake lever arent span adjustable, which isnt ideal for anyone with tiny hands me included.

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Re: BMW G310GS
« Reply #174 on: October 11, 2017, 09:38:16 am »


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Re: BMW G310GS
« Reply #175 on: October 11, 2017, 10:20:08 am »
In this class CC counts. 62 cc more than the 250 Rallye means more torque, and most probably a higher cruising speed.
Bike of the year chose the G310R above the 300 Versys - the only benefit of the Kawa over the R was off road ability. The G310GS fixes that.
I sat on a G310R and it was too small for my 2m frame, but it is the same with the R1200R. It will be interesting to see if the G310GS will accommodate taller riders.
Most bikes are built for riders weighing 75kg, so anyone weighing 100kg+ will have to work the suspension on any bike.
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Re: BMW G310GS
« Reply #176 on: October 13, 2017, 04:12:19 pm »
https://riders.drivemag.com/news/bmw-g310gs-launch-test-accessible-adventure-biking

"A further aide to the new smallest BMWs traffic manners is the wide spread of torque peaking at 7,500 revs, just three-quarters of the way to the 10,500 rpm revlimiter. The twincam four-valve 313cc single pulls wide open in top gear from as low as 3,200rpm without any hesitation or transmission snatch, thanks to the excellent fuelling. Theres an extra kick of acceleration around 6,000rpm, and another one at nine grand, so it pays to rev it out but thats not to say that the power delivery is layered, just that it becomes more urgent the harder you rev the motor, which is pretty nice.

This has a single gear-driven counterbalancer which does its job to perfection the Ducati Supermono I used to race was previously the smoothest single Id ever ridden, but the much less costly G310GS matches that, even at higher rpm. As in, no vibes at all, zilch - not through footrests, seat or handlebar, even when approaching the 10,500 rpm limiter, after the white shifter light in the dash starts flashing at ten grand to remind you to shift up. "



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Re: BMW G310GS
« Reply #177 on: October 13, 2017, 08:33:22 pm »
https://riders.drivemag.com/news/bmw-g310gs-launch-test-accessible-adventure-biking

"A further aide to the new smallest BMWs traffic manners is the wide spread of torque peaking at 7,500 revs, just three-quarters of the way to the 10,500 rpm revlimiter. The twincam four-valve 313cc single pulls wide open in top gear from as low as 3,200rpm without any hesitation or transmission snatch, thanks to the excellent fuelling. Theres an extra kick of acceleration around 6,000rpm, and another one at nine grand, so it pays to rev it out but thats not to say that the power delivery is layered, just that it becomes more urgent the harder you rev the motor, which is pretty nice.

This has a single gear-driven counterbalancer which does its job to perfection the Ducati Supermono I used to race was previously the smoothest single Id ever ridden, but the much less costly G310GS matches that, even at higher rpm. As in, no vibes at all, zilch - not through footrests, seat or handlebar, even when approaching the 10,500 rpm limiter, after the white shifter light in the dash starts flashing at ten grand to remind you to shift up. "





Thanks for sharing this mate  :thumleft:

I like this bike and would love to compare it straight (back to back) with the Versys 300 which also appeals to me.
 

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Re: BMW G310GS
« Reply #178 on: October 16, 2017, 02:19:24 pm »
This will be a great little bike and I believe it will do well in sales. BMW are pitching it absolutely spot on towards their market.

It's an important bike for the "going smaller" segment...hopefully if it sells well it will also spark some buyers' attention towards the Honda 250 & Kawasaki 300 which are different bikes to this but can hopefully also sell one or two more of those.
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Offline Soublartand

Re: BMW G310GS
« Reply #179 on: October 18, 2017, 01:31:04 pm »
I really like the G310GS , went on a test ride last week in Germany.
Of course, much smaller than my R1200GS LC, but the perfect bike for my sister :)
Very handy and also a nice design.
 
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