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Offline Omninorm

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Re: 690 Clutch issues
« Reply #60 on: July 05, 2018, 11:09:43 am »
So his bike's Clutch plate and the Slave cylinder went. What would go first in this instance?
I must say this must be some new record. 1300km later?

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Re: 690 Clutch issues
« Reply #61 on: July 05, 2018, 04:06:05 pm »
So his bike's Clutch plate and the Slave cylinder went. What would go first in this instance?
I must say this must be some new record. 1300km later?

With the right type of abuse you can cook a clutch in 20 mins
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Re: 690 Clutch issues
« Reply #62 on: July 05, 2018, 06:01:15 pm »
So his bike's Clutch plate and the Slave cylinder went. What would go first in this instance?
I must say this must be some new record. 1300km later?

With the right type of abuse you can cook a clutch in 20 mins

The 690/701 is particularly clutch-sensitive, and around here uite a few guys have destroyed plates on these bikes.

For camera-work in cycling/running events we lower the gearing to accommodate low-speed work.
 

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Re: 690 Clutch issues
« Reply #63 on: July 09, 2018, 02:55:57 pm »
So his bike's Clutch plate and the Slave cylinder went. What would go first in this instance?
I must say this must be some new record. 1300km later?

With the right type of abuse you can cook a clutch in 20 mins

The 690/701 is particularly clutch-sensitive, and around here uite a few guys have destroyed plates on these bikes.

For camera-work in cycling/running events we lower the gearing to accommodate low-speed work.

I'm quite keen to actually drop a tooth in the front myself. Way more useful than being able to do 199kph.
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Re: 690 Clutch issues
« Reply #64 on: July 13, 2018, 12:32:12 am »
I dropped a tooth on the front, it feels like a different bike  :thumleft: easier to manage in tight trails etc and still can do 120 comfortably if needed
 

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Re: 690 Clutch issues
« Reply #65 on: July 13, 2018, 08:48:05 am »
I dropped a tooth on the front, it feels like a different bike  :thumleft: easier to manage in tight trails etc and still can do 120 comfortably if needed
On the 690, what rpm increase does the dropped tooth front sprocket have at 120kph?
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Re: 690 Clutch issues
« Reply #66 on: July 27, 2018, 01:34:29 pm »
@w@anted,

I asked Oberon, the CLU 1000 & CLU 2105 (I think, the number you mentioned somewhere - but I did get the number right when asking Oberon) is exactly the same.
I wanted to know if the dispalced volume (i.e piston diameter) was different but nope, same things.
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Re: 690 Clutch issues
« Reply #67 on: July 30, 2018, 09:09:05 am »
@w@anted,

I asked Oberon, the CLU 1000 & CLU 2105 (I think, the number you mentioned somewhere - but I did get the number right when asking Oberon) is exactly the same.
I wanted to know if the dispalced volume (i.e piston diameter) was different but nope, same things.
Fwiw...

Thanks Burp

I also contacted Oberon. Received some feedback stating that the Husky uses the CLU1000, which is different from the CLU1201 due to the diaphragm design which is similar to the oem slave. But the CLU1201 also fits the husky, apparently.
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Re: 690 Clutch issues
« Reply #68 on: July 30, 2018, 01:23:30 pm »
I dropped a tooth on the front, it feels like a different bike  :thumleft: easier to manage in tight trails etc and still can do 120 comfortably if needed
On the 690, what rpm increase does the dropped tooth front sprocket have at 120kph?

Approximately 400 rpm increase at 120 kph.
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Re: 690 Clutch issues
« Reply #69 on: July 31, 2018, 02:10:50 pm »
I dropped a tooth on the front, it feels like a different bike  :thumleft: easier to manage in tight trails etc and still can do 120 comfortably if needed
On the 690, what rpm increase does the dropped tooth front sprocket have at 120kph?

Approximately 400 rpm increase at 120 kph.

Sounds about right... check the speedo because 120 comes quickly  :biggrin:
 

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Re: 690 Clutch issues
« Reply #70 on: July 31, 2018, 02:25:54 pm »
I dropped a tooth on the front, it feels like a different bike  :thumleft: easier to manage in tight trails etc and still can do 120 comfortably if needed
On the 690, what rpm increase does the dropped tooth front sprocket have at 120kph?

Approximately 400 rpm increase at 120 kph.

Sounds about right... check the speedo because 120 comes quickly  :biggrin:

This sounds good  :ricky:
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Re: 690 Clutch issues
« Reply #71 on: July 31, 2018, 02:50:30 pm »
Hre's my take on gearing.
If possible at all I prefer odd-numbered sprockets, for reason they will last longer, ditto the chain.
Now the 701 comes with a 15T front, and (I think) a 46T rear.
I've ordered a 51T rear which effectively drops the gearing ~11% - which is more than going down 1T at the front (to a 14T).
I'm sure I'll like that though, more capable in difficult terrain in 1rst, and on the slab it's quick enough in any case, too quick if you believe some of my (non-riding) friends  :biggrin:
« Last Edit: July 31, 2018, 02:52:22 pm by BuRP »
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