Author Topic: BMW R1200 GSA LC RIGHT SIDE HEAT ISSUE ?? (Read 14640 times)

Brucet · « **Reply #160 on:** December 05, 2018, 01:00:11 pm »

Quote from: FJR on December 03, 2018, 02:41:37 pm

Gents,
I have started this thread back in 2017 when I bought my GSA. I have then locked many complains to BMW and to date they have never come back to me wrt this issue.
The only way to get rid of the heat is to get rid of the CAT. I have replaced my OME header and can with Akra and Remus and did not have any more heat problems on my bike.

Now, I just put my name on the list for a new 1250 GS mainly for two reasons, I just love the colors on the HP model and want to go back to a normal GS that is a bit lighter than the GSA.
I will most properly put my Remus headers and Akra can on the market, they are ceramic coated and still looks like new.
Please PM me if you are interested, R18k for both. The were close to R30k with the ceramic coating.

what is the noise like when traveling? is it much louder than the standard?

TheBear · « **Reply #161 on:** December 07, 2018, 12:48:47 pm »

Quote from: FJR on December 03, 2018, 02:41:37 pm

Please PM me if you are interested, R18k for both. The were close to R30k with the ceramic coating.

Dear Mr. FJR,

CONGRATULATIONS! You have won a brand new BMW R1250GS to the value of R300 000.00 with added extras of your choice, to the value of R100 000.00 and free beer for a year. All you have to do to claim your price is to mail one (1) ceramic coated Acrapovic exhaust system to fit the R1200GS LC to our very honest agent, Mr. AMZ who is legally legitimised to be the broker for this competition. On receipt of the previously mentioned Acrapovic, we will ensure delivery of your price within 6 months.

Kind Regards
Slimeball and Sons, BMW Competition Purveyors

Imran · « **Reply #162 on:** December 10, 2018, 08:26:48 am »

Spoke to a dealer over the week-end, said the management team will sit today to discuss the option of swapping the headers for the pre-2017 models. Don't know how this would suit some customers? If it eliminates the heat problem, then, I'm prepared to swap the headers! Anyone tried this swap for pre-2017 EU4 OEM headers with success? I know from the thread that Remus/Akra headers work. I still have the 3 year warranty, which will be voided if I go the after-market route, so says the dealer!

Brucet · « **Reply #163 on:** December 10, 2018, 08:38:41 am »

I was about to order Akripovic headers from the UK although my bike is still under warenty. I figured they would have to prove the headers caused the fasilure if one did occure.

This is good news if it actually does happen now. I somehow have my doubts though.

Sommer Ek · « **Reply #164 on:** December 10, 2018, 10:41:41 pm »

Imran:

Fit 2013 or 2014 headers and problem relatively solved. Still a bit more heat, but no more numberplate bending, pillion overheating, luggage overheating.

Main problem is the Cat to get it up to EU4 standards. 2013 and 2014 is still EU2 or 3 (smaller cat)

IMHO. BMW kan dit nie sommer net recall en ander headers opsit nie want hulle het dit uit- en ingevoer as EU4 en sou hulle op 'n recall ander headers opsit en ek vat my bike oorsee word dit aan die ander kant van die water as 'n modifikasie gesien. Dan kom dinge soos CO2 belasting en en en n klomp papierwerk ter sprake. Dink maar aan Volkswagen se debakel. Dit is my opinie, dalk is ek reg, dalk verkeerd, dalk half reg.

Sê maar.

Imran · « **Reply #165 on:** December 11, 2018, 10:22:54 am »

Will be looking for headers with the EU3 emissions regulation

BuRP · « **Reply #166 on:** December 11, 2018, 10:53:47 am »

Changing anything on the bike, in this case (part of) the exhaust system, will, according to the stealer, void warranty.
Mounting different headers is in this respect the exact same as having the CAT removed.
However, if you do the latter then you'll only have some advantages, below:
- a little lighter
- freeer flow of exhaust hence less fuel consumption combined with more effective power of the engine
- lots cheaper than buying other parts/headers/why
What's not to like?

The CAT itself is the problem, not the headers (unless they contain the CAT).
Get rid of the CAT, end of woes plus a few benefits!

Brucet · « **Reply #167 on:** December 11, 2018, 11:31:16 am »

Agreed. Now just to find someone in GP that can do it and do a neat job.
I was referred to Stealth but their number does not exists, is there anyone else?

BuRP · « **Reply #168 on:** December 11, 2018, 12:21:46 pm »

I heard days ago Stealth has stopped in Montana and has moved to Moreletta Park, so they still exist.
Their prices are very reasonable and their welding is exquisite, come donner me if I'm lying!
Just phoned them, their (new) number is 082 308 40 49

Disclaimer for a not impossible wanker reading here, NO, I am not affiliated but just a repetitive client, I've paid for their excellent services.

Brucet · « **Reply #169 on:** December 11, 2018, 01:20:00 pm »

Thank you

gee · « **Reply #170 on:** December 11, 2018, 07:54:14 pm »

I did my cat last week. I did find that there was a reduction in heat but not as much as i thought there would be. there is more power and my consumption seemed better. I hope to do a longer trip in the next two weeks and will report back. I got Donovan at Cytech (011) 433 - 8850 to do it and was very happy with the welding and workmanship. I have seen other cut out cat workmanship and they looked like amateur welders had done it

BuRP · « **Reply #171 on:** December 12, 2018, 10:48:36 am »

Actually, the winning remedy is to have a pipe made which replaces the section the CAT sits in.
No more big 'bulge' hence neater, also a better flow, and the absence of the big blob reduces the heat radiated.
Stealth Exhausts do this too, stainless of course.

Brucet · « **Reply #172 on:** December 13, 2018, 02:02:54 pm »

fug it maybe I should just order the Akrapovic stainless headers. landed they are only about R9k

TheBear · « **Reply #173 on:** December 14, 2018, 12:47:47 pm »

Quote from: BuRP on December 12, 2018, 10:48:36 am

Actually, the winning remedy is to have a pipe made which replaces the section the CAT sits in.
No more big 'bulge' hence neater, also a better flow, and the absence of the big blob reduces the heat radiated.
Stealth Exhausts do this too, stainless of course.

+1

Brucet · « **Reply #174 on:** January 10, 2019, 04:14:02 pm »

Well I just had a call from BMW head office regarding my complaint.

Basically I was told that there is nothing they can do as its designed that way to meet the emissions regulations and the heat was a side affect. When I asked if I could change the exhaust and if my warrenty will be affected, i was told that it would. I must admit to being a bit pissed off about it and have now definately decided that I wont be purchasing the 1250 and I will be replacing or decatting my exhaust asap.

Good luck to anyone who does purchase the 1250. It is clear that if there is no back up from BMW and its a kind of "if you dont like it FU" attitude. Pity as I really love my BMW's. (race one, drive one, and ride one)

@gee did you do your trip? How was the heat after your decat?

Brucet · « **Reply #175 on:** January 10, 2019, 04:26:16 pm »

Just ordered an Akrapovic headers. Hope this fixes the issue! Will know next week when they are fitted.

GSLaaitie · « **Reply #176 on:** January 10, 2019, 04:42:44 pm »

I'm interested to read the suggestions of fitting the older 2014/2015 models' headers. Just an FYI, but I have a 2014 GSA and the heat is so much that my wife has flat out told me she will not ride with me again because of it.

Brucet · « **Reply #177 on:** January 10, 2019, 06:16:38 pm »

And the 2017 is worse believe it or not!
That’s why I am just going to spend the R12k and hopefully that will solve the problem.

gee · « **Reply #178 on:** January 14, 2019, 09:48:04 am »

after taking out the cat there was a slight heat reduction and a increase in power. It still gets stuffing hot on the right side. I have noticed on pictures on the new 1250 that they have added a type of bash plate on the center stand that looks like it will also deflect air up. Im not sure if that is to help reduce heat on the right side. I cant make out from the pic i saw

Bravofox · « **Reply #179 on:** January 14, 2019, 10:24:48 am »

Quote from: Brucet on January 10, 2019, 04:14:02 pm

It is clear that if there is no back up from BMW and its a kind of "if you dont like it FU" attitude. Pity as I really love my BMW's. (race one, drive one, and ride one)

It is a pity how companies make good products, but their customer services stuffs everything up.
I have owned 6 Subarus since 2004, but my current 2015 Outback will be my last Subaru as Subaru SA's attitude towards customer service took a turn for the worst in the last 6 years or so.