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Offline Omninorm

Re: G450X engine needed
« Reply #40 on: May 15, 2017, 06:59:21 pm »
We are fitting the new 511cc to the BMW tomorrow. Will keep you chaps in the loop. Thanks for the advice and heads up on the the motor for sale Katana...it would seem i owe you a few beers.
It would seem so, probably not really though.  I will join you for one sometime.  If I can get some cash, get my arse in gear and strip my WR for a top end rebuilt, it can be after a nice quarry ride sometime...  Good luck with the fitment.

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Re: G450X engine needed
« Reply #41 on: May 15, 2017, 09:04:53 pm »
We are fitting the new 511cc to the BMW tomorrow. Will keep you chaps in the loop. Thanks for the advice and heads up on the the motor for sale Katana...it would seem i owe you a few beers.
It would seem so, probably not really though.  I will join you for one sometime.  If I can get some cash, get my arse in gear and strip my WR for a top end rebuilt, it can be after a nice quarry ride sometime...  Good luck with the fitment.

What happened to the WR!?
It is still running like it did 150hrs ago when I bought it, but my center intake valve has closed up to zero clearance in the last 10hrs.  It has been shimmed 3 times during my ownership, so I believe it is time for some love.  Remember that is started at x9800km when I bought it.  The x is the unknown.
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Re: G450X engine needed
« Reply #42 on: May 15, 2017, 10:07:41 pm »
Jason I really do not know why you do not just drop the complete engine in?? Advantages of power, hydro clutch etc. Then you have the BMW engine out and can have it fixed as parts are sourced and can always be swopped back if need be at a later stage or sold on.
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Re: G450X engine needed
« Reply #43 on: May 16, 2017, 06:35:08 am »
I agree with Big Dom above

It is very easy to change the engine number on the registration certificate if your bike is registered

1. Apply for RPC (request for police clearance) at your local Lic&Reg office
2. Take bike to SAPS Clearance on La Belle Road Stikland - but have it microdotted first at the BP garage just past SAPS clearance yard (they are the cheapest and quickest in WC)
3. Police clearance will take no longer than 15 minutes and you will be out of there - they are very sharp and on the ball
4. Take completed and stamped RPC form back to Lic&Reg office and they will issue you with a new registration certificate bearing the new engine number

For SAPS clearance you will need

1. RPC form - you have to get this first at Lic&Reg office - this does not get issued at SAPS clearance
2. Your ID
3. Max R400 for microdotting (the SAPS clearance and issue of RPC is free)
4. the bike


For re-issue of new reg doc with new engine number you will need

1. Your ID
2. Proof of address not older than 90 days for FICA purposes
3. Completed and stamped RPC showing new engine number
4. Original registration certificate
5. R150 for new registration certificate
 

There is no roadworthy certificate required because the OWNER is staying the same - and the bike will not be classed as a CODE 3 or BUILT-UP / OPGEBOU as someone stated here before - its status will remain the same as before - it is only ever classed as BUILT UP if it has previously been scrapped / deregistered and then re-registered and put back on the road again
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Re: G450X engine needed
« Reply #44 on: May 16, 2017, 07:39:29 am »
Jason I really do not know why you do not just drop the complete engine in?? Advantages of power, hydro clutch etc. Then you have the BMW engine out and can have it fixed as parts are sourced and can always be swopped back if need be at a later stage or sold on.
+1, gives you time to do a FULL breakdown/build-up of the BMW motor WITHOUT needing to rush - you can take your time and find the parts you need (and fit the breather!)
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Re: G450X engine needed
« Reply #45 on: May 16, 2017, 07:40:18 am »
I agree with Big Dom above

It is very easy to change the engine number on the registration certificate if your bike is registered

1. Apply for RPC (request for police clearance) at your local Lic&Reg office
2. Take bike to SAPS Clearance on La Belle Road Stikland - but have it microdotted first at the BP garage just past SAPS clearance yard (they are the cheapest and quickest in WC)
3. Police clearance will take no longer than 15 minutes and you will be out of there - they are very sharp and on the ball
4. Take completed and stamped RPC form back to Lic&Reg office and they will issue you with a new registration certificate bearing the new engine number

For SAPS clearance you will need

1. RPC form - you have to get this first at Lic&Reg office - this does not get issued at SAPS clearance
2. Your ID
3. Max R400 for microdotting (the SAPS clearance and issue of RPC is free)
4. the bike


For re-issue of new reg doc with new engine number you will need

1. Your ID
2. Completed and stamped RPC showing new engine number
3. Original registration certificate
4. R150 for new registration certificate
 

There is no roadworthy certificate required because the OWNER is staying the same - and the bike will not be classed as a CODE 3 or BUILT-UP / OPGEBOU as someone stated here before - its status will remain the same as before - it is only ever classed as BUILT UP if it has previously been scrapped / deregistered and then re-registered and put back on the road again
whew, nice comprehensive info; someone should make this post a 'STICKY'.
thanks, Justin!
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Re: G450X engine needed
« Reply #46 on: May 16, 2017, 09:26:44 am »
Thanks Chaps, i really appreciate all the info. Ive given my Mechie the mandate to do what ever makes most sense, i assume he will go with your suggestion above.

I would also need to do some work on the clutch if we drop the full 511 motor in surely as they are not the same?
 

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Re: G450X engine needed
« Reply #47 on: May 16, 2017, 09:35:51 am »
You would need the clutch lever and master cylinder unit or an equivalent.
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Re: G450X engine needed
« Reply #48 on: May 16, 2017, 06:16:40 pm »
We are fitting the new 511cc to the BMW tomorrow. Will keep you chaps in the loop. Thanks for the advice and heads up on the the motor for sale Katana...it would seem i owe you a few beers.
It would seem so, probably not really though.  I will join you for one sometime.  If I can get some cash, get my arse in gear and strip my WR for a top end rebuilt, it can be after a nice quarry ride sometime...  Good luck with the fitment.

What happened to the WR!?
It is still running like it did 150hrs ago when I bought it, but my center intake valve has closed up to zero clearance in the last 10hrs.  It has been shimmed 3 times during my ownership, so I believe it is time for some love.  Remember that is started at x9800km when I bought it.  The x is the unknown.

I see...nothing wrong with that then  :thumleft:
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Re: G450X engine needed
« Reply #49 on: September 19, 2017, 02:25:58 pm »
Hi Chaps

Apologies for the long delay in replying to this thread, i got married, purchased a house etc...... The 511 Husky top end bolted directly onto the 450 bottom end, no issues and runs like a stabbed rat! Thank you all for the advice and help in sorting this project out.

I might however be selling the bike soon to jump onto something more road orientated. If some one is keen on a 511cc G450X drop me a message:)

Jayson
« Last Edit: September 19, 2017, 02:26:43 pm by Jayson Hill »