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Offline MiniDan

Re: New Rockfox soft luggage in the works
« Reply #20 on: May 25, 2017, 08:17:44 am »
I also have the Wolfman panniers that look like these and are extremely happy with them. Thus will be very interested to see these and if they close to the Wolfman products, buy local in the future.
 

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Re: New Rockfox soft luggage in the works
« Reply #21 on: May 25, 2017, 08:19:40 am »
These look great. I suspect these will fly off the shelves
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Re: New Rockfox soft luggage in the works
« Reply #22 on: May 25, 2017, 08:29:11 pm »
Lekker om te sien ons eie mense se vernuftigheid kom weer na vore.

Lyk baie na die Wolfman sakke wat ek gebruik en waarmee ek baie tevrede is. Soos met alles wat ingevoer is sal julle hulle 'n prys uitklophou kan gee. Hoe verskil julle monteer metode van hulle s'n? Op die foto's sien ek ook die belt wat oor die saal gaan.

Jup, omdat ons ook dieselfde materiaal as die Wolfman's gebruik lyk dit baie dieselfde.  Sodra mens egter nader kyk is daar egter redelik groot verskille.

1) Die Rockfox sakke pak aansienlik makliker omdat ons ontwerp rondom die opening heeltemal anders is. (Die sak bly basies 100% oop)
2) Die Rockfox sak loop groter na bo wat in en uitpak nog meer vergemaklik.
3) Ons vasmaak aan die rak is aansienlik makliker.
4) Die sakke is 'skoon' aan die buitekant.  Daar is niks wat aan takke ens kan vashaak
5) Geen 'Buckles' onder die pillion nie.
En nog heelwat meer.

Aan die einde van die dag is die Wolfman's seker die tweede beste sakke in die wereld. (Rockfox eerste  >:D )

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Re: New Rockfox soft luggage in the works
« Reply #23 on: May 31, 2017, 05:41:47 pm »
Fantastic feedback received at Kyalami with quite a few orders. One must be in Rockfox colors nogal (Orange and Grey)  :eek7:

Bought a HF welder today so no turning back now.  Well actually I need another 2 sets just for our own household.

Will post update soon as the 'new' version will be tested to Boegoeberg next weekend.

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Re: New Rockfox soft luggage in the works
« Reply #24 on: June 01, 2017, 07:51:29 am »
Adie stopped by to see me, I had asked to see his product, since soft luggage makes up quite a bit of what we do...


I was very impressed by their soft luggage: it fitted excellently, barely moved when really tugging on it, looks the business, straps around the outside of the bag (circumference) for strength, quality buckles, hard to fault it, actually!


He demonstrated how the 'mouth' of the bag stays open whilst unpacking/repacking it, a nice feature.


So two thumbs up,  :thumleft:   :thumleft: Adie (and Mike, obviously), we will stock the product when it is launched, and feel it is a worthwhile alternative to what is available out there.


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Re: New Rockfox soft luggage in the works
« Reply #25 on: June 01, 2017, 12:34:16 pm »
Nice luggage! Definately keen. Would be cool if you could lock the bags somehow. Like in some luggage you can lock the zips. This is RSA after all

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Re: New Rockfox soft luggage in the works
« Reply #26 on: June 01, 2017, 12:45:25 pm »
Nice luggage! Definately keen. Would be cool if you could lock the bags somehow. Like in some luggage you can lock the zips. This is RSA after all

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Stainless cable with lugs to lock the bag 'closed' as well as to the frame included. You just buy the padlocks  8)

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Re: New Rockfox soft luggage in the works
« Reply #27 on: June 01, 2017, 12:48:36 pm »
Nice luggage! Definately keen. Would be cool if you could lock the bags somehow. Like in some luggage you can lock the zips. This is RSA after all

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Stainless cable with lugs to lock the bag 'closed' as well as to the frame included. You just buy the padlocks  8)

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Hehe fantastic! Very keen to see it in stores :)

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Re: New Rockfox soft luggage in the works
« Reply #28 on: June 01, 2017, 12:53:38 pm »
Ek sal nogal ernstig kyk na daai sakke.

Ek is ook egter in die proses om vir my die Roxfox panniers te koop en sal waardeer as jy my kan se of julle dit saam met die sakke sal verkoop.

Ek wil nou eerder nie die huidige panniers koop net om later te vind die sakke pas nie lekker daarby nie.

Enige idees vir 'n bag agter op die Roxfox carrier plate (wat ek oor reeds het)?
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Re: New Rockfox soft luggage in the works
« Reply #29 on: June 01, 2017, 01:16:38 pm »
Would be nice to see a continued interest in soft tail packs in all their forms. Waterproof zips, expandable, lash points to add modular, waterproof, well thought out lash down points..along with that is what rear carry plates are out there...that can get tricky?
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Re: New Rockfox soft luggage in the works
« Reply #30 on: June 01, 2017, 01:37:57 pm »
HF welder and the material you use (trucking tarp pvc ?) will make it a winner, if you look at almost any well known brand of soft luggage that is the way to go.
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Re: New Rockfox soft luggage in the works
« Reply #31 on: June 01, 2017, 01:45:23 pm »
Ek sal nogal ernstig kyk na daai sakke.

Ek is ook egter in die proses om vir my die Roxfox panniers te koop en sal waardeer as jy my kan se of julle dit saam met die sakke sal verkoop.

Ek wil nou eerder nie die huidige panniers koop net om later te vind die sakke pas nie lekker daarby nie.

Enige idees vir 'n bag agter op die Roxfox carrier plate (wat ek oor reeds het)?
1. Die sakke word deur Rockfox ontwerp en gebou.  Dit pas dus die beste op ons eie rakke.  :pot:
2. Sien 1 hierbo.  die sakke pas egter op enige komersiele rakke. Selfs die SW Motech wat so effe trapezium is.
3. 'Soft Topbox is volgende op die lys  die Rockfox plaat het reeds 'T' slots in waaraan die sakke stewig vas kan maak.

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Re: New Rockfox soft luggage in the works
« Reply #32 on: June 01, 2017, 02:03:06 pm »
Would be nice to see a continued interest in soft tail packs in all their forms. Waterproof zips, expandable, lash points to add modular, waterproof, well thought out lash down points..along with that is what rear carry plates are out there...that can get tricky?
The 950/990 toolbag needs a replacement as well...something slightly tougher :thumleft:
During discussions at Kyalami additional bags etc were discussed in detail. Once the side bags (for the need of a word) are in production the other items will be designed and tested.  This will include sleeping bag (or for any other items) rolls that attach directly to the bags (Front, Rear or Top) A soft 'Top Box' as well as a 'tool roll' to fit between the luggage rack and the bike. This tool roll will be 'strappable' to keep all tools dry and tight so there will be no rattles etc.

Special (optional) 'clamps' will be available to secure the bag to the plate if no attachment points available. The main design criteria of the bag is to be 'strapable' to reduce the size and always keep the contents compressed.

Crashbar toolbags is also on the cards.
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Re: New Rockfox soft luggage in the works
« Reply #33 on: June 01, 2017, 02:16:21 pm »
HF welder and the material you use (trucking tarp pvc ?) will make it a winner, if you look at almost any well known brand of soft luggage that is the way to go.
Not True. That is actually the problem. Probably more than 80% soft luggage are made from 'Ripstop' as it is much cheaper and 'easier to use. In our tests we found that Ripstop actually tear quite easy if under stress. I did see 'PVC' bags but then they use quite thin material whereas the body of our bags are from 550gsm.

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Re: New Rockfox soft luggage in the works
« Reply #34 on: June 01, 2017, 03:01:19 pm »
HF welder and the material you use (trucking tarp pvc ?) will make it a winner, if you look at almost any well known brand of soft luggage that is the way to go.
Not True. That is actually the problem. Probably more than 80% soft luggage are made from 'Ripstop' as it is much cheaper and 'easier to use. In our tests we found that Ripstop actually tear quite easy if under stress. I did see 'PVC' bags but then they use quite thin material whereas the body of our bags are from 550gsm.

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Ok let me say the best of the best ie Wolfman and Giant Loop. Have not seen Mosko Moto up close so not sure what they use.
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Re: New Rockfox soft luggage in the works
« Reply #35 on: June 01, 2017, 03:09:18 pm »
HF welder and the material you use (trucking tarp pvc ?) will make it a winner, if you look at almost any well known brand of soft luggage that is the way to go.
Not True. That is actually the problem. Probably more than 80% soft luggage are made from 'Ripstop' as it is much cheaper and 'easier to use. In our tests we found that Ripstop actually tear quite easy if under stress. I did see 'PVC' bags but then they use quite thin material whereas the body of our bags are from 550gsm.

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Ok let me say the best of the best ie Wolfman and Giant Loop. Have not seen Mosko Moto up close so not sure what they use.
YUP that is the only two I also know about.

** Edit**
Wolfman also do most of their new products from ripstop. (only the 'Expedition dry' is still PVC)


Adie
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Re: New Rockfox soft luggage in the works
« Reply #36 on: June 05, 2017, 09:13:36 am »
I had the prototype in my hands over the weekend.

As the owner of a set of Wolfman soft luggage, I think this is going to be a winner, one reason being the only reason I got Wolfman bags and the Wolfman racks was because it could be included in the finance of the motorcycle.

Other than that a huge amount of thought has gone into just about every aspect of these bags.




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Re: New Rockfox soft luggage in the works
« Reply #37 on: June 05, 2017, 10:38:57 pm »
RF welder tested and working - had to go secondhand as the new ones are over R100 000.00 and come with medical certificate nogal. (will have to sell a lot of bags just to pay for that  >:D ) That is why everybody go for 'Ripstop' (actually RipLess).

This thing actually use those old radio valves.  Is apparently moerse big and cost R 20 000.00 (YUP no typo)  Will take picture once delivered. It vibrate at 27.?? Mhz to excite the plastic molecules to soften and fuse two parts together.  Nou raak ons gevaarlik op ons oudag   :biggrin:

Will be delivered later this week.

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Offline Weedkiller - Adie

Re: New Rockfox soft luggage in the works
« Reply #38 on: June 22, 2017, 09:51:48 pm »
Ok, some progress.

The welder arrived at our workshop today.  Will get it in position over the weekend to be commissioned early next week.  (Will take pic of the R20 000.00 valve tomorrow)

In the meantime.
We went through the design updates and final color scheme.

AND THEN IT HITS US.
Everyone was 'insisting' that there must be 'hi-viz' panels on the bags for visibility.  We looked at various options where this would be effective (side/back/front)  Depending on how the bags are packed any reflective strip could become 'invisible'.  ALSO, there is a huge difference between hi-viz and reflective. 

Hi-viz is bright yellow/orange and moerse visible during daytime whereas 'reflective' is ONLY effective at night while light is shined on it. (Search for 'Hi-Viz' on net)

We decided to concentrate on hi-viz much more than reflective in the first design to break the 'invisible black' look of the bags. Very few motorcyclist ride after dark.  >:D  It will then also be easy to add some reflective 'patches' once we know how the bags will crease if not fully loaded.

The materials etc will be delivered tomorrow so we can manufacture the first 'real' set. 

Adie

(Maybe I must call the bags 'Bumble Bee' as the colors will be Black and Yellow at the attachment straps around the waist.)
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Re: New Rockfox soft luggage in the works
« Reply #39 on: June 22, 2017, 11:16:36 pm »
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