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Offline Oilspill

Re: Bike Tour through Lesotho goes horribly wrong
« Reply #200 on: July 15, 2017, 08:00:17 pm »
Yo you guys can labour a point. She wanted an African adventure and got one. End of bloody story.

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African adventure gone wrong is not good for our tourism industry.

Living in the WC you should know this.
Did anyone die or get permanently disabled? No.
 Did anyone get ripped off? No.
 Was it tough? Yes...It was meant to be. Could it have been done better?sure
...Will pampered American tourists with zero cultural IQ maybe think twice about what they sign up for in future? Nope, they will continue doing stupid things regardless. 
I really take my hat off to  tour operators who try and create businesses and help our economy doing this.  Give them a break.

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Offline Skaiidawg

Re: Bike Tour through Lesotho goes horribly wrong
« Reply #201 on: July 15, 2017, 08:22:03 pm »
Give them a break.

Blxm maar julle kan fokken aanhou, graad 2 mentaliteit, ja daar is foute gemaak, lesse sal geleer word, meeste kliente het waarde vir hulle geld gekry. Hoe se hulle? Beste stuurman staan aan wal.   

Oilspill I agree with you, well said.
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From Buddhists to Sikhs, through Muslims and Christians and everything in between, there are many good people out there and if you do not allow yourself to be swayed by petulant religious opinion, the world is an awesome place with the odd idiot in between trying to make it rubbish for others.
 

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Re: Bike Tour through Lesotho goes horribly wrong
« Reply #202 on: July 15, 2017, 08:36:07 pm »
Give them a break.

Blxm maar julle kan fokken aanhou, graad 2 mentaliteit, ja daar is foute gemaak, lesse sal geleer word, meeste kliente het waarde vir hulle geld gekry. Hoe se hulle? Beste stuurman staan aan wal.   

Oilspill I agree with you, well said.

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Re: Bike Tour through Lesotho goes horribly wrong
« Reply #203 on: July 15, 2017, 08:42:22 pm »
Just the chosen bikes, if indeed GS800's were used, is an idiotic choice for both beginners and women.

Not because it is a BMW but they are notoriously difficult to ride smoothly at low RPM, they're quite high and very heavy. How can people not foresee the result? :imaposer:

This problem would possibly not even have come up had the operator used something like Honda's CRF250/Rally.

We have no proof that these were actually beginners, or in fact what their skills levels were.
The lady who fell ill, causing all this, rides a F800GSA as her personal bike in the USA.
The latest F800GS bikes are nowhere near as jerky as the older models.
The CRF250 would not have done all that well on the rest of the tour from JHB, through Lesotho, over Sani, and then all the way down to Cape Town.

Choice of bike, if F800GS, perhaps not all that idiotic.

Then they should have cut out the extreme enduro called Sani, and stayed on the gravel highways with their big bikes.
 

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Re: Bike Tour through Lesotho goes horribly wrong
« Reply #204 on: July 15, 2017, 08:45:04 pm »
I'm sure the participants will all dine out on the story for years to come!  ;D
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Re: Bike Tour through Lesotho goes horribly wrong
« Reply #205 on: July 15, 2017, 08:58:04 pm »
Just the chosen bikes, if indeed GS800's were used, is an idiotic choice for both beginners and women.

Not because it is a BMW but they are notoriously difficult to ride smoothly at low RPM, they're quite high and very heavy. How can people not foresee the result? :imaposer:

This problem would possibly not even have come up had the operator used something like Honda's CRF250/Rally.

We have no proof that these were actually beginners, or in fact what their skills levels were.
The lady who fell ill, causing all this, rides a F800GSA as her personal bike in the USA.
The latest F800GS bikes are nowhere near as jerky as the older models.
The CRF250 would not have done all that well on the rest of the tour from JHB, through Lesotho, over Sani, and then all the way down to Cape Town.

Choice of bike, if F800GS, perhaps not all that idiotic.

Then they should have cut out the extreme enduro called Sani, and stayed on the gravel highways with their big bikes.

If they were beginners, yes.
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Re: Bike Tour through Lesotho goes horribly wrong
« Reply #206 on: July 15, 2017, 09:16:07 pm »
Yo you guys can labour a point. She wanted an African adventure and got one. End of bloody story.

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African adventure gone wrong is not good for our tourism industry.

Living in the WC you should know this.
Did anyone die or get permanently disabled? No.
 Did anyone get ripped off? No.
 Was it tough? Yes...It was meant to be. Could it have been done better?sure
...Will pampered American tourists with zero cultural IQ maybe think twice about what they sign up for in future? Nope, they will continue doing stupid things regardless. 
I really take my hat off to  tour operators who try and create businesses and help our economy doing this.  Give them a break.

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Offline Jovan

Re: Bike Tour through Lesotho goes horribly wrong
« Reply #207 on: July 15, 2017, 09:51:55 pm »
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Offline 2wdrift

Re: Bike Tour through Lesotho goes horribly wrong
« Reply #208 on: July 16, 2017, 12:07:33 am »
While working as a field guide in KZN we would often have idiots on game drives who would not listen to our instructions. The one case I remember was while surrounded by elephants we had an american (who else) taking photos with his flash on pissing the elephants off, I let my co guide handle it (I stutter and did the work while training for game capture work) and the tourists just wouldnt listen to her. The moron only stopped when I threatened him with physical violence to try and save us from the herd of pissed off elephants.

The guest had a big problem with that and complained to his tour operator who was at the entrance to the reserve, after a very short argument where the other clients on the vehicle backed me up the idiot was told to shut up and get in the bus. Afterwards it came out that the guy thought the animals were all tame ex circus animals and we were trying to sell a fake experience.

So I understand the tour operators side.

A few years ago I was in malawi and I fell ill with malaria, the doctor I saw told me it wasnt malaria although it was my 18th time getting it. And as such I was given paracetamol to stop the fever for a week and refused any other treatment, the person I went there with would not believe me about it being malaria and would not get me to another hospital for actual blood tests. (I was there working on a lodge for a short time and as such did not have my own vehicle, I also did not have any malawian currency to purchase medication with and as such was stuck relying on this person) So on the way hone the last paracetamol worked out of my system and I went from feeling okayish to delirium and vomitting up blood in a few hours while the person driving wouldnt stop at a hospital on our drive down until threatened with violence. I have permanent health issues due to that.

So at first I sided completely with sepsis chick on this case, but after reading the reply from Tim and the reply made by the other clients I would side with the tour operator, especially after my experience with overseas tourists.

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Re: Bike Tour through Lesotho goes horribly wrong
« Reply #209 on: July 31, 2017, 03:27:52 pm »
I hope the whole thing blows over without damage.

Send the patient the Alfie Cox t shirt - "Africa is not for sissies" (I guess even he's needed it).

Slightly more serious; it is properly kak to be sick in a "foreign country".I've just been on a guided 4x4 tour outside of SA in quite a remote area - it would not have been pleasant to have fallen seriously ill.

Practical. I think there are a good number of people in Underberg who would have collected her and the bike; quite possibly for free in an emergency. Just a phone call to the local protection services. Contingency planning.