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Re: Dakar 2018
« Reply #140 on: January 04, 2018, 03:29:43 pm »
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Re: Dakar 2018
« Reply #141 on: January 04, 2018, 03:37:57 pm »
Given that this thread is already 160 something posts long, I have updated the first post and will try to link a shortcut to the start of each Stage there. This way you can go back to look at older posts or catch up quickly without wasting time dragging through hundreds of pages. ;D
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Re: Dakar 2018
« Reply #142 on: January 04, 2018, 03:51:44 pm »
Check out Jurgen van Goorberg's malle moto setup. Will be interesting to see him vs. Lyndon.




He is building his own rally kits now from a standard EXC 450.  :deal:
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Re: Dakar 2018
« Reply #143 on: January 04, 2018, 04:09:34 pm »
Are they (Malle Moto) not allowed to buy anything for their bikes, e.g. oil or any spare parts? If something breaks that you don't have in your box you are screwed - or do I have it wrong? Are they allowed to borrow tools?
I know they may have their tyres changed by the tyre trucks.
 

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Re: Dakar 2018
« Reply #144 on: January 04, 2018, 04:20:02 pm »
AJ, they can buy anything and borrow anything, but they are not allowed any "outside assistance" from any individuals. ie. they cannot have someone do anything on their bikes.
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Re: Dakar 2018
« Reply #145 on: January 04, 2018, 04:26:54 pm »
Are they (Malle Moto) not allowed to buy anything for their bikes, e.g. oil or any spare parts? If something breaks that you don't have in your box you are screwed - or do I have it wrong? Are they allowed to borrow tools?
I know they may have their tyres changed by the tyre trucks.
From Donovan van de Langenberg web site: "There is no help. From anyone.
No assistance, no professional support crew, no backup team, and no extras. It’s just you, your bike, your smarts, and one metal box with your essential spare gear. Race officials transport these boxes to each bivouac ahead of the rider so that they can then work on their bikes after they’ve completed each days racing stage. But that’s kind of it."

Basically what you see in the in the photo of Jurgen van Goorberg's picture, that is it.
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Re: Dakar 2018
« Reply #146 on: January 04, 2018, 04:29:24 pm »
The one thing that they are allowed is that the Michelin tyre changing service can do their tyre swaps. They have to walk over their wheels and tyres and they will change them for them.
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Re: Dakar 2018
« Reply #147 on: January 04, 2018, 05:08:30 pm »
The following is from the 2018 Bike - Quad Regulations.

22) Original by Motul (ex Malles Motos Challenge)
This category previously named “Malles Moto” becomes “The Original by Motul”. Pilots competing under this category will now use this name to define themselves.
This category refers to bikes and quads pilots competing WITHOUT ANY KIND OF ASSISTANCE. A driver accompanied by someone in-race, as assistance or Media will not be eligible to participate in this category.
It is reserved to the first 30 registrations to this category.

37P4 “ORIGINAL BY MOTUL” CHALLENGE (ex Malles Motos -BIKE TRUNKS)
Bikes and quads pilots competing without any accompanying person, being in-race, assistance or Media, will be eligible to participate in this category.
A specific competition rule applies for competitors under this category; infraction will result in disqualification from this category.
1) Motul, major partner of the Dakar, wishes to support The Originals.
By sponsoring this category, Motul will make available for each of its registered drivers:
- 1 sleeping tent – 2 persons – 2 seconds,
- 1 environmental carpet,
- 1 travel bag 90L,
- 1 backpack 25L,
- 1 headlight,
- 1 cap,
- 1 hygiene kit (muscle gel, wipes, disinfecting gel, ear plugs, sleeping mask)
This material will be handed over to the competitors in Le Havre, before boarding of the European vehicles.
Besides, Motul will provide the pilots with products from the brand.
2) The Dakar Organization will provide 1 trunk per driver for storage of their items (mechanical and personal).
3) The Dakar Organization will take in charge the transport of 1 trunk and 2 wheels.
4) At the Bivouac, it is mandatory for the rider registered in « Original » category to set-up and make all/any service and repairs in its dedicated area.
5) Time Card management
At any arrival from the Road Section TC or Selective Section Finish TC (when there is no Road Section to get to the Bivouac), the Rider will give his Time Card to the Chief Marshal. The Marshal will give the Rider his Time Card back with his time of arrival written down. Then, the Rider will imperatively have to give his Time Card to « Original » responsible at
arriving in the dedicated area.
6) After having informed « Original » responsible, the Rider will be able to take his Machine out of the area to realise certain operations:
• With the Dakar Service Centre sponsors (tyres, oil, etc.),
• But also to weld, do repairs, clean and conduct tests with his Machine.
In case of litigation, the “Malles Motos” responsible will make a written statement to the Officials with
the time of absence and the reasons.
5) If it is proven that the type of intervention does not conform to this Article and/or that the spirit of « Original » category is not respected, the Rider will be excluded from this classification.
6) The trunk and 2 wheels must be handed over before the start of the Race:
• either in Le Havre on 23rd and 24th November 2017;
• or at « Original » truck, parked at the Assistance Park in Lima, from 3rd January 2018
01.00pm, and until 5th January at 12.00pm.
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Re: Dakar 2018
« Reply #148 on: January 04, 2018, 06:09:49 pm »
Aah OK thanks that makes sense!

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Re: Dakar 2018
« Reply #149 on: January 04, 2018, 08:57:29 pm »
I remember Brett Cummings loosing out to some Dutchie or Frenchie in the Malle Moto class because the latter allegedly received preferential treatment a couple of years ago.  Simple things like taking a shower at one of the team trucks and getting technical assistance where its not allowed but it apparently being covered up because of his connection via family or some shit.

I still believe Brett was, apart from Alfie, one of our toughest and most competitive  racers ever in the Motos. Who remembers Brett's WD name (something like Rally....), maybe he can chip in here with some more details.  .
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Re: Dakar 2018
« Reply #150 on: January 04, 2018, 11:55:22 pm »
I still believe Brett was, apart from Alfie, one of our toughest and most competitive  racers ever in the Motos. Who remembers Brett's WD name (something like Rally....), maybe he can chip in here with some more details.  .

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Re: Dakar 2018
« Reply #151 on: January 05, 2018, 05:27:29 am »
Lyndon final prep and Scrutineering in Le Havre, France. This vid is loaded with great tips. :deal:



Those shipping directly to South America will have to do their scrutineering in Lima. This adds to the pre-start stress I think, and those who have gone to Le Havre don't have much to worry about tomorrow.
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Re: Dakar 2018
« Reply #152 on: January 05, 2018, 07:32:56 am »
Get a beer and put an hour aside.

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Re: Dakar 2018
« Reply #153 on: January 05, 2018, 07:50:39 am »
The following is from the 2018 Bike - Quad Regulations.

22) Original by Motul (ex Malles Motos Challenge)
This category previously named “Malles Moto” becomes “The Original by Motul”. Pilots competing under this category will now use this name to define themselves.
This category refers to bikes and quads pilots competing WITHOUT ANY KIND OF ASSISTANCE. A driver accompanied by someone in-race, as assistance or Media will not be eligible to participate in this category.
It is reserved to the first 30 registrations to this category.

37P4 “ORIGINAL BY MOTUL” CHALLENGE (ex Malles Motos -BIKE TRUNKS)
Bikes and quads pilots competing without any accompanying person, being in-race, assistance or Media, will be eligible to participate in this category.


How does Lyndon work around this media bit? Seeing that he has got a media crew going as well.... ???
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Re: Dakar 2018
« Reply #154 on: January 05, 2018, 07:55:54 am »
Suppose the exposure he gives race they turn a blind eye

 

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Re: Dakar 2018
« Reply #155 on: January 05, 2018, 08:12:26 am »
The following is from the 2018 Bike - Quad Regulations.

22) Original by Motul (ex Malles Motos Challenge)
This category previously named “Malles Moto” becomes “The Original by Motul”. Pilots competing under this category will now use this name to define themselves.
This category refers to bikes and quads pilots competing WITHOUT ANY KIND OF ASSISTANCE. A driver accompanied by someone in-race, as assistance or Media will not be eligible to participate in this category.
It is reserved to the first 30 registrations to this category.

37P4 “ORIGINAL BY MOTUL” CHALLENGE (ex Malles Motos -BIKE TRUNKS)
Bikes and quads pilots competing without any accompanying person, being in-race, assistance or Media, will be eligible to participate in this category.


How does Lyndon work around this media bit? Seeing that he has got a media crew going as well.... ???


Reserved for first 30 applicants
 

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Re: Dakar 2018
« Reply #156 on: January 05, 2018, 08:21:28 am »

Reserved for first 30 applicants

Yes, that is the total number of entrants allowed in the class. But only if you don't have other support as mentioned in the regulations.
I believe Lyndon is still racing in this class.
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Re: Dakar 2018
« Reply #157 on: January 05, 2018, 08:35:43 am »
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Re: Dakar 2018
« Reply #158 on: January 05, 2018, 08:58:19 am »
Confirmed, Gonk is out... :-\
 

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Re: Dakar 2018
« Reply #159 on: January 05, 2018, 09:08:33 am »
Confirmed, Gonk is out... :-\

Damn, what a shame.
I wonder if possible, which reserve rider is now hurriedly packing his kit....
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