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Price of new bikes - is it worth it?
« on: November 03, 2017, 02:21:14 pm »
So this is something i like to keep tabs on...pricing differentials between bikes I would like to own....but it seems to me as if the world is going mad...or is it just me?  So killing some time at the office I went on the manufacturers website and came up with the following new bike prices (low-high):

BMW F800GSA R175k
KTM 1090R R182k
Honda CRF1000 A/T R186k
KTM 1290R R217k
BMW 1200GSA R252k

I love my 800GSA but if I had to buy new (and price was my primary consideration) then the decision has to go the way of the Honda or the 1090 because I think both are technologically 'newer' than the 800.  I cannot convince myself that the 1290R would be a significantly 'better' bike for Joe Average than, say the 1090R which you could bling up seriously with the R35k saving over its big brother.  As for the 1200GSA - fantastic machine - but that price makes my eyes water....the 1290R must surely make more sense...Ok, this is a really rubbish thread and my rambling excuse at trying to find the 'best' bike is actually a waste of time...analysis paralysis never my strong point but I'm bored....time for coffee....
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Re: Price of new bikes - is it worth it?
« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2017, 02:32:31 pm »
That is why "pre-loved" bikes are such a good idea, but you have to do your homework and buy with wisdom........ ;)
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Re: Price of new bikes - is it worth it?
« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2017, 05:16:25 pm »
All academic to me of course, but I don't see newer technology making a bike worth more. Quite the contrary, if I were In such a fortunate position, I'd pay more for Old technology, or even for most of the 'technology' to be absent altogether.
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Re: Price of new bikes - is it worth it?
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2017, 05:42:32 pm »
I have a theory - the difference in manufacturing a 250 Rally vs an Africa Twin for example - is not nearly as big as the difference in retail price and/or the difference in power/cc's ...

So the larger capacity bikes must subsidize the smaller offerings!  :deal: We as the buying public is actually responsible for that scenario - through our own presumptions !  :peepwall:
 

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Re: Price of new bikes - is it worth it?
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2017, 09:12:53 am »
Whenever I think ANYTHING is overpriced, I simply visit a cycling store or website. At least for your R175k you get a 220 kg chunk of metal that powers itself, only need to be serviced every 6k - 10k km, it has loads of electronics, and it puts a smile on your face. Have a look at the examples below - here you get 7 - 10 kg of material and you need to power it yourself. Services are way more expensive than on motorcycles, and needs to happen more frequently.

https://www.specialized.com/za/en_GB/mens-s-works-epic-xtr-di2/p/129015?color=240115-129015 - R150k
https://www.specialized.com/za/en_GB/s-works-venge-vias-disc-di2/p/129134?color=240047-129134 - R165k
https://www.specialized.com/za/en_GB/mens-s-works-tarmac-ultralight/p/129254?color=239632-129254 - R165k
https://www.specialized.com/za/en_GB/s-works-roubaix-dura-ace-di2/p/128885?color=240075-128885 - R165k

All of a sudden R175k for a proper motorcycle doesn't sound so bad anymore, does it?!  :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:

Bicycles are truly madness. :lol8:

Oh, and take note - pedals not included...
« Last Edit: November 06, 2017, 09:15:06 am by Piet »
 
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Re: Price of new bikes - is it worth it?
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2017, 09:35:46 am »
Whenever I think ANYTHING is overpriced, I simply visit a cycling store or website. At least for your R175k you get a 220 kg chunk of metal that powers itself, only need to be serviced every 6k - 10k km, it has loads of electronics, and it puts a smile on your face. Have a look at the examples below - here you get 7 - 10 kg of material and you need to power it yourself. Services are way more expensive than on motorcycles, and needs to happen more frequently.

https://www.specialized.com/za/en_GB/mens-s-works-epic-xtr-di2/p/129015?color=240115-129015 - R150k
https://www.specialized.com/za/en_GB/s-works-venge-vias-disc-di2/p/129134?color=240047-129134 - R165k
https://www.specialized.com/za/en_GB/mens-s-works-tarmac-ultralight/p/129254?color=239632-129254 - R165k
https://www.specialized.com/za/en_GB/s-works-roubaix-dura-ace-di2/p/128885?color=240075-128885 - R165k

All of a sudden R175k for a proper motorcycle doesn't sound so bad anymore, does it?!  :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:

Bicycles are truly madness. :lol8:

Oh, and take note - pedals not included...

Absolutely agree!!  Bicycle prices have gone mad.  Got a mate who owns a bicycle shop - imports a top-end Specialized roadbike for display purposes only for R120k....sold within two days....so he imports two more....sold both within a week and now cannot keep up with the demand.....I dont get it  :o :o :o
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Re: Price of new bikes - is it worth it?
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2017, 09:48:59 am »
All academic to me of course, but I don't see newer technology making a bike worth more. Quite the contrary, if I were In such a fortunate position, I'd pay more for Old technology, or even for most of the 'technology' to be absent altogether.
But I know there aren't many dinosaurs like me left.  :peepwall:

I am one of them....

I had a choice between a 2013 GSA (Last of the air cooleds) and a new LC GS....  I went for the '13 GSA. Less electronics, more proven in my view, and I dont like the switchgear on the new ones...

If I could find a spotlesss 1150 over here I would be riding that instead. The 1150 is still the best looking GS as far as I am concerned.
 

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Re: Price of new bikes - is it worth it?
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2017, 11:00:27 am »
I have a theory - the difference in manufacturing a 250 Rally vs an Africa Twin for example - is not nearly as big as the difference in retail price and/or the difference in power/cc's ...

Remember that the goverment tax all new vehicles/bikes.    The bigger the engine displacement, the higher the tax.