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Re: KTM 790 ADVENTURE
« Reply #160 on: December 03, 2017, 06:47:38 pm »
Those girls are sitting on the BMW's.

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Re: KTM 790 ADVENTURE
« Reply #161 on: December 03, 2017, 07:14:11 pm »
For those who were hoping for a mini 1090R that you could jump on and ride all day...............not. Just like a 690 it will rattle your fillings out. A play bike for Sundays nothing more. :xxbah:
 

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Re: KTM 790 ADVENTURE
« Reply #162 on: December 04, 2017, 09:16:26 am »
For those who were hoping for a mini 1090R that you could jump on and ride all day...............not. Just like a 690 it will rattle your fillings out. A play bike for Sundays nothing more. :xxbah:


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Firstly, I can sit on the 690 all day long. Second, are you maybe talking about the 640? For a Thumber the 690 is very smooth.
Thirdly, this is a Twin...... comparing it to a thumper is like comparing an apple to an orange.
It will be super smooth.

Omninorm,
I was like you. GS to F850 but the weight of the new BMW is too much (only 15kg less than a GS R)




Yeah for the riding I'll do with these the little weight saving is good and the 21" front and conventional forks is what I'd like.  I have my 690 Enduro still so use that for the trips into the dirt. This will be for all the other long distance stuff and commuting every day etc. Very very happy with the LC.... just think this will be a bit nicer perhaps.
But yeah... maybe not worth it. I'll see. Gotta go test ride the 850GS and the 1090R  :patch:
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Re: KTM 790 ADVENTURE
« Reply #163 on: December 04, 2017, 09:26:04 am »
whose idea was it to place the fuel tanks down low next to the engine? Those are tanks, right? if the bike goes down, the tanks take a big hit. Anybody knows more?
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Re: KTM 790 ADVENTURE
« Reply #164 on: December 04, 2017, 09:30:28 am »
whose idea was it to place the fuel tanks down low next to the engine? Those are tanks, right? if the bike goes down, the tanks take a big hit. Anybody knows more?

http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=217106.msg3944669#msg3944669

They do this on the Dakar 450 as well. I'm sure if it's fine for those, it' ill be fine for the 790. OBVIOUSLY they thought of this and made it strong enough and protected enough so it wont be a issue in any normal crash.

If that is polycarbonate then you wont need any crashbars on that - the skidplate will be strong enough to survive multiple falls and crashes etc.
imho it's an excellently thought out design. Lots of fuel, low down and centered and ads great protection without one to go add scaffolding to your bike.


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Re: KTM 790 ADVENTURE
« Reply #165 on: December 04, 2017, 09:49:53 am »
whose idea was it to place the fuel tanks down low next to the engine? Those are tanks, right? if the bike goes down, the tanks take a big hit. Anybody knows more?

http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=217106.msg3944669#msg3944669

They do this on the Dakar 450 as well. I'm sure if it's fine for those, it' ill be fine for the 790. OBVIOUSLY they thought of this and made it strong enough and protected enough so it wont be a issue in any normal crash.

If that is polycarbonate then you wont need any crashbars on that - the skidplate will be strong enough to survive multiple falls and crashes etc.
imho it's an excellently thought out design. Lots of fuel, low down and centered and ads great protection without one to go add scaffolding to your bike.

Yeah, I assume they will test this properly. but in reality, sometimes they don't rest thing over a long enough period.  I hope for them there are no accounts of the tanks failing under impact during an off
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Re: KTM 790 ADVENTURE
« Reply #166 on: December 04, 2017, 05:43:14 pm »
For those who were hoping for a mini 1090R that you could jump on and ride all day...............not. Just like a 690 it will rattle your fillings out. A play bike for Sundays nothing more. :xxbah:

Sorry but an ill-formed  plonker comment.  :o . I am not the first born of the KTM fanboy club but have followed the R&D of this scoot closely and it will neither rattle or be a BMW 650.
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Re: KTM 790 ADVENTURE
« Reply #167 on: December 04, 2017, 05:52:02 pm »
For those who were hoping for a mini 1090R that you could jump on and ride all day...............not. Just like a 690 it will rattle your fillings out. A play bike for Sundays nothing more. :xxbah:

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Re: KTM 790 ADVENTURE
« Reply #168 on: December 05, 2017, 09:02:08 am »
A 450RR's tanks will quite easily hole; just ask Willem du Toit.  KTM tend to not sweat the small stuff - if you don't want to damage the tanks, don't crash on it.  I like that approach.
 

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Re: KTM 790 ADVENTURE
« Reply #169 on: December 05, 2017, 10:15:38 am »
A 450RR's tanks will quite easily hole; just ask Willem du Toit.  KTM tend to not sweat the small stuff - if you don't want to damage the tanks, don't crash on it.  I like that approach.

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Re: KTM 790 ADVENTURE
« Reply #170 on: December 05, 2017, 11:02:08 am »
Sarcasm?  :imaposer:
 

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Re: KTM 790 ADVENTURE
« Reply #171 on: December 05, 2017, 01:24:17 pm »
If you consider how many BMW 1200GS valve covers and heads were broken by impact in the pre-crashbar days, then these 790 tanks is a bad idea.

Fitting crashbars would make the 790 as wide as a Hyundai i10.
 

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Re: KTM 790 ADVENTURE
« Reply #172 on: December 05, 2017, 02:14:01 pm »
If you consider how many BMW 1200GS valve covers and heads were broken by impact in the pre-crashbar days, then these 790 tanks is a bad idea.

Fitting crashbars would make the 790 as wide as a Hyundai i10.

But still narrower than a standard GS.  :biggrin:

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Re: KTM 790 ADVENTURE
« Reply #173 on: December 05, 2017, 02:34:01 pm »
If you consider how many BMW 1200GS valve covers and heads were broken by impact in the pre-crashbar days, then these 790 tanks is a bad idea.

Fitting crashbars would make the 790 as wide as a Hyundai i10.

Won't need crashbars with the bit that's probably going to be polycarb at the bottom.
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Re: KTM 790 ADVENTURE
« Reply #174 on: December 05, 2017, 02:36:26 pm »
If you consider how many BMW 1200GS valve covers and heads were broken by impact in the pre-crashbar days, then these 790 tanks is a bad idea.

Fitting crashbars would make the 790 as wide as a Hyundai i10.

But still narrower than a standard GS.  :biggrin:

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Re: KTM 790 ADVENTURE
« Reply #175 on: December 05, 2017, 02:38:08 pm »
Funny to see you reccomend the 850GS above the 790 Adventure Dan. It has the crashbars and everything for you from the showroom floor.
Glad you are coming around these days. ;)

Dan as I understand it you never had crashbars on your 690/er...701 either and the bike is fine right? Underseat tank and all.

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Re: KTM 790 ADVENTURE
« Reply #176 on: December 05, 2017, 04:12:49 pm »
Reminds me of a 950 with the fairings removed .........maybe the 'real' adventure bike will have fairings fitted.
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Re: KTM 790 ADVENTURE
« Reply #177 on: December 05, 2017, 04:17:03 pm »
Reminds me of a 950 with the fairings removed .........maybe the 'real' adventure bike will have fairings fitted.

Funny, I thought that, the 950 is broad down at the bottom too.  :biggrin:
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Re: KTM 790 ADVENTURE
« Reply #178 on: December 05, 2017, 10:08:59 pm »
Funny to see you reccomend the 850GS above the 790 Adventure Dan. It has the crashbars and everything for you from the showroom floor.
Glad you are coming around these days. ;)

Dan as I understand it you never had crashbars on your 690/er...701 either and the bike is fine right? Underseat tank and all.

I only once ever recommended a BMW to anyone.......as ships anchor to a boat captain. :xxbah:

I do not like crashbars, it's a motorcycle not a pypkar. You don't see crashbars on Enduro 300's and I'd say they need them more where they ride.
 

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Re: KTM 790 ADVENTURE
« Reply #179 on: December 05, 2017, 10:12:57 pm »
Funny to see you reccomend the 850GS above the 790 Adventure Dan. It has the crashbars and everything for you from the showroom floor.
Glad you are coming around these days. ;)

Dan as I understand it you never had crashbars on your 690/er...701 either and the bike is fine right? Underseat tank and all.

I only once ever recommended a BMW to anyone.......as ships anchor to a boat captain. :xxbah:

I do not like crashbars, it's a motorcycle not a pypkar. You don't see crashbars on Enduro 300's and I'd say they need them more where they ride.

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