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Miniature RR: getting out of the bundus minus a clutch lever
« on: November 11, 2017, 06:15:28 pm »
Lance and I headed to the biannual Cederberg Oasis spitbraai, but unfortunately never reached it. We explored two little roads off Nuwekloof Pass. One was easy-going and pretty.







The other was rougher, but fun, until it suddenly became incredibly steep and rocky. I lost the plot and bought a plot. Lance heard me fall, through the headset, but couldn’t stop to check if I was ok. He was stuck on a downward trend until the road allowed him otherwise. I told him I was fine, but my left-hand side mirror (whatever) and clutch lever (oh noes!) were both past tense. The photos, as usual, don’t do the slope any justice.







This is where Lance managed to stop:



Lance walked back up to me. He was still in two minds on whether he’d be able to get out; never mind trying to get my bike out. We first tried pushing my bike up the hill. The gradient and loose stones put paid to that idea. An easier stretch of road was not too far away, but it may as well have been a million miles.

Lance decided to ride my bike out. I had to push from behind. I’m still in awe that my legs aren’t purple and blue. For some reason, while standing in a cloud of kicked-up rocks, the real big chunks missed my legs. With my bike out, we focused on Lance’s bike. He just managed most of the stretch; needing a push on the very bad bits. I also spent quite a bit of time clearing the very big loose rocks. No wonder my back aches.

This is what Lance’s tyre looks like after being wheel-spun up a very loose and rocky hill:


The remaining gravel track was easier, which meant that I could ride my bike out the rest of the way. The one sandy patch was “interesting”. Up/down-shifting is ok without a clutch, once you get the hang of it, and starting on gravel is fine, but starting on tar is a bit tricky.

In Malmesbury, on the way home, I did some “slow-races” to try to catch robots when they’re green, but I had to execute two stalls at intersections (finding neutral when you can’t gently move the gear lever in a very clunky gearbox is not that easy). To start, I had to get the revs up, rock the bike forward in neutral and then hit it into first. According to Lance, who viewed everything from behind, apparently you can wheel-spin on tar…

A video:
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/U6AI7RRrJAo" target="_blank" class="new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/U6AI7RRrJAo</a>
« Last Edit: November 11, 2017, 08:42:14 pm by Zanie »
 

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Re: Miniature RR: getting out of the bundus minus a clutch
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2017, 08:27:17 pm »
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Re: Miniature RR: getting out of the bundus minus a clutch lever
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2017, 10:03:35 pm »
 :sip: That really looked like alot of fun.  8)
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Re: Miniature RR: getting out of the bundus minus a clutch lever
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2017, 06:34:23 am »
Nice report Zanie!
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« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2017, 06:43:54 am »
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Re: Miniature RR: getting out of the bundus minus a clutch lever
« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2017, 07:30:39 am »
Looks like loads of fun - those are the trips you remember


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Re: Miniature RR: getting out of the bundus minus a clutch lever
« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2017, 08:00:11 am »
Julle moes net nie omgedraai het onder daai steil stuk nie. Deur daai plaas voorentoe  kan julle weer uitgety het.
Ek is nog net met n DR en CR  en my Kombi suksesvol daarop.
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Re: Miniature RR: getting out of the bundus minus a clutch lever
« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2017, 08:02:27 am »
Dis waar wat jy sę
Video doesn't bring justice to that one

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Re: Miniature RR: getting out of the bundus minus a clutch lever
« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2017, 09:14:46 am »
You do seem to have "proper" alloy handguards on your bike, how did the lever break behind that?
 

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Re: Miniature RR: getting out of the bundus minus a clutch lever
« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2017, 09:31:06 am »
When the 650 falls over, there are no pots and other stick-out bits, so the ends of the handlebars take the full hit. This time the bike went down pretty heavily, the handlebar-end dug deeply into the ground (so much so that it even took off the mirror) and some rocks appear to have manoeuvred between the guards and handlebar. The Barkbusters protect against most falls, but not all. Murphy's Law and statistical averages will get you. This is the third time I've snapped a lever despite the Barkbusters (though I have fallen countlless times).

I suppose it's like good boots: will protect against most falls, but not all. The fact that the enormous weight of the bike comes down on one handlebar end is bound to do damage. There may also be the case where the Barkbusters themselves could be responsible for the damage if they shift. I suspect this may have caused one of the breaks at least. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Damned if you ride an oil tanker... (and don't have the skills to do so)
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Re: Miniature RR: getting out of the bundus minus a clutch lever
« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2017, 09:46:19 am »
The only skill you need to get a oiltanker up that road  is the one to organize friends to help

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Re: Miniature RR: getting out of the bundus minus a clutch lever
« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2017, 02:45:51 pm »
When the 650 falls over, there are no pots and other stick-out bits, so the ends of the handlebars take the full hit. This time the bike went down pretty heavily, the handlebar-end dug deeply into the ground (so much so that it even took off the mirror) and some rocks appear to have manoeuvred between the guards and handlebar. The Barkbusters protect against most falls, but not all. Murphy's Law and statistical averages will get you. This is the third time I've snapped a lever despite the Barkbusters (though I have fallen countlless times).

I suppose it's like good boots: will protect against most falls, but not all. The fact that the enormous weight of the bike comes down on one handlebar end is bound to do damage. There may also be the case where the Barkbusters themselves could be responsible for the damage if they shift. I suspect this may have caused one of the breaks at least. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Damned if you ride an oil tanker... (and don't have the skills to do so)

Have you ever considered that something might not be right , I haven't heard of so many levers breaking when handguards are properly fitted
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Re: Miniature RR: getting out of the bundus minus a clutch lever
« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2017, 06:26:56 pm »
Have you ever considered that something might not be right , I haven't heard of so many levers breaking when handguards are properly fitted

Most people keep to gravel highway and worry about resale value... I have lost count of the number of times I have hit mother earth. Of those, the 3 accidents that broke levers included this last one, a hard crash in heavy sand tweespoor and the crash that caused me to break my foot. This will also be my sixth mirror replacement.

The 650s are more prone to break off bits than the 800s or 1200s and I don't see that many 650s out on the roads where I ride. They're not really built for it. So I suppose I'm on the outward tail of the statistical normal distribution curve.
 

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Re: Miniature RR: getting out of the bundus minus a clutch lever
« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2017, 08:09:17 pm »
Zanie , with all respect , I have to disagree with you , the 650 is no less capable than the 800 or 1200 , and as I said earlier , properly fitted handguards should also protect the levers , that is of course the prime purpose of having them .
However if you don't want to believe me then I suggest you carry spare levers with you
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Re: Miniature RR: getting out of the bundus minus a clutch lever
« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2017, 08:53:15 pm »
Zanie, thanks for a good RR
Not many people take their bikes places like you do.
I have not broken levers on mine, but have bent the bar end bolt.
What about fitting 2finger levers?
I personally do not like them, but should not break easily.
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Re: Miniature RR: getting out of the bundus minus a clutch lever
« Reply #15 on: November 12, 2017, 09:01:34 pm »
the 650 is no less capable than the 800 or 1200 , and as I said earlier , properly fitted handguards should also protect the levers

You misunderstand me. It's not that the bike is less capable (compared to a heavier bike, it tackles rough stuff easier). It's just that unlike the 1200s with their pots and the GSAs with their massive tanks, the handlebars/levers are the most exposed part of the 650 (look at how narrow the bike is in comparison to its fat brothers). I wish I had taken a close-up of the left-hand-side handlebar and lever: it was literally buried in rocks.

Protection can help most of the time, but not all of the time. The more you fall (and I fall plenty), the higher your chances that you'll have a fall that does damage, especially with the heavier bikes. According to my mechanic, my bike's the one he sees the most due to sheer mileage and the places where I decide to ride (I'm on some form of bike almost every weekend - whether at a funduro or a gravel spin on my big bike). Out of an estimated 30 or upwards (have lost count) side-stand incidents and/or falls, a hit rate of 3 is not so bad.

Lance's 800GSA has hit mother earth even more than my bike and his bike has cheap, plastic hand guards that even a guinea fowl once took off. Yet he has not snapped a lever. Not once. Despite having to replace every last fairing (kid you not - there are 6) of his bike thanks to an absolute multitude of falls.

But perhaps I am indeed wrong (this has been known to happen - ask Lance). I'd be happy to swing by your place for a quick Barkbuster adjustment as a scientific experiment. There are plenty similar roads that Lance is scoping out on Google Earth.

The only skill you need to get a oiltanker up that road  is the one to organize friends to help

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What about fitting 2finger levers?

Interesting idea. Maybe I should try it out.
 

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Re: Miniature RR: getting out of the bundus minus a clutch lever
« Reply #16 on: November 12, 2017, 09:12:09 pm »
You are most welcome to pop around , it will do no harm to have a look  :thumleft:
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Re: Miniature RR: getting out of the bundus minus a clutch lever
« Reply #17 on: November 14, 2017, 12:46:26 am »
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Enjoyed, especially the video of your trials and tribulations. 
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Re: Miniature RR: getting out of the bundus minus a clutch lever
« Reply #18 on: November 14, 2017, 12:17:17 pm »
lekker RR, well done on riding clutchless out of there  ;D   :thumleft:


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Re: Miniature RR: getting out of the bundus minus a clutch lever
« Reply #19 on: November 14, 2017, 01:01:06 pm »
Well done on that ride and thanks for sharing!  :thumleft:

Though short, it certainly is an appetizer to do similar things.
The chats that followed, I found entertaining and enjoyable... coming from a place of experience and passion, no doubt!   ;D

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