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Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
« Reply #120 on: March 23, 2018, 10:22:52 am »
I run these on my 1190R and touch wood have never had any issue at any speed.



 

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Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
« Reply #121 on: March 25, 2018, 08:23:14 pm »
Yes on the 990's as well we in our group preffer those. And never had any issues but now all of a sudden we have issues on the front  :dousing:
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Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
« Reply #122 on: March 25, 2018, 08:59:45 pm »
So Ysbeer as promised here we go:
Just as a reminder remember that I did not have to sell my 990R and handed this down to my son, so it was to my mind a little easier decision as the legend is still in the grage ;) . But to be brutally honest the 1090 is an extremely easy bike to get used to and here is what to my mind is better on the 1090R than the 990R.  8)

Lights:
Jip probably not yet as good as say the new Honda, but a LOT better than the 990.
The seat:
But then anything is better than the plank on the 990R
Getting to the battery:
Eish eish what a pleasure now that it is under the seat
Service Intervals:
Definitely is a HUGE improvement and it only really sneaks up on you when u are at 7500km where I am now and then u realize on the 990 u would have had to service already. And yes I can argue that I did not commute on the 990 so the 7500 will not come that quickly, but yet it does. I remember that even while primarily just doing dirt trips it always felt that I am just servicing all the time
Electronics:
The fuel gauge is very lekker. On the 990 u know the kmís etc that u can do, but it is just so much nicer to have a fuel gauge on board. The other settings like ride modes etc is also awesome but to be honest I use very little of that. The bike is always in Sport Mode with me regardless if it is on tar or dirt or rain or sunshine. I find that 125hp on dirt is actually very doable. So then on tar it is Sport with traction control off when dry, and on when wet. Dirt is Sport mode with Traction off and ABS in Off-road. So the other modes does not get used much at all. REALLY like the ABS that stays on in the front even in Off-road. Grabbing a handful on dirt is a non-issue now and we older toppies now do start needing assistance.
Fuel consumption and range:
So I have not done big trips yet but I have just finished the planning for our 8 day trip starting on the 31st of March and a big chunk is in the Karoo with small dorpies where fuel is not a guarantee and must say that extra legs that u have on the 1090 really eases the planning. And now i am no longer the reason why everyone has to stop at the garage  :patch: :lol8:
Engine:
So it is not 160hp but the extra HP and revs is a BIGGG smile factor. And this is not a restricted 1290 but the engine was completely re designed and it is very smooth. And as noted above that 125hp works soooo lekker on dirt  >:D >:D >:D
Tubless:
Have not yet had a puncture but theoretically without damaging rims and or cutting tires punctures is now a non-issue. Except the 1st time I will have to use those mushroom plugs and spanners. But then once u have done one it will be easy enough thereafter. So as noted we are leaving on a 8 day trip and although there is a spare front tube and some tire leavers going with the expectation is that i will not be needing those.
Suspension:
Forks are better than the stock 990 springs even if you have done progressives on the 990 like I have done on my 990R. The 1090 forks are just better. Rear shock on the 1090 is also a PDR so also better than the 1090. I have 3rd degree kortgattelaaites so the 990R is very tall for me. The 1090 although marginally shorter is shorter and that little bit does give me less stress than on the 990R. But as per comments above I am no riding god. On the 990 before the upgrade I managed to bottom the front often enough, but we never do serious hectic offroad stuff. We have plastics for that. But as noted with the few dirt trips I have done now I can already feel the difference between the 2 w.r.t suspension.
Chain tension bolt setup in the swing arm:
One of the more painful issues on the 990 is that the chain tensioner bolts sometimes gets corroded and seizes up. The swing arm must come off and if u are lucky the bolt eventually comes out with a lot of patience as u cannot get to the nut side as it is inside the swing arm. Bastard i know as i had to do one already. On the 1090 the swing arm is not a closed tube setup anymore and u can see the nut of the set bolt clearly.
Rear brake fluid reservoir:
On the 990 this is a metal cast unit with an aluminium lid with 2 counter sunk screws of which the one screw is at an awkward position half under the passenger footrest bracket, so always a schlep to take of the lid. On the 1090 it is now a plastic bottle with an easy screw off lid.

« Last Edit: March 25, 2018, 09:38:58 pm by JK »
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Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
« Reply #123 on: March 25, 2018, 09:04:26 pm »
What is still better on the 990 (Offcourse in my mind  :lol8:)
Looks:
This is a personal thing and for sure bikers will never agree on this one, but to me the 990 is still the best looking Adventure baaik out there. It just has the looks of a Dakar winning KTM.
Sound:
Yes the 1090 does not sound bad but eish I miss those 2 pipes.
Cabbyhole:
As expected this is one of the 1st things u will miss. Have the handlebar bag on the 1090 but not as convenient and also not waterproof like that little cubby.
Airfilter change:
I did the Unifilter change and must say this is much more complicated and time consuming on the 1090 as on the 990. The whole tank must come off where on the 990 just the cubby comes off.
Space under the seat 990R ONLY !:
The 990 R has that lekker little box under the seat where the ABS pump goes when u have a normal 990. Perfect place to put a compressor. With the battery now under the seat on the 1090 there is not a lot of space there.
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Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
« Reply #124 on: March 25, 2018, 09:20:33 pm »
So if u ask me . . .
Should u sell the S and buy a R?
Nope i will not do that. The 990R has a good chance to have the same little niggling issues and on my 990R i have seen my fair share of those.

Should u sell and buy a 1090R?
As noted it took me a looong time, a hellavua special price and the fact that the 990 was gonna stay before i did this. But now i am sold 100% and to be Honest i think once the 790 has landed and has spent some time showing its issues and get sorted i will probably trade the 990 in on that. So if u absolutely have no issues with your 990 and no itches there is no need to sell as that is still the legend and bar for that terrible fuel range u will be able to ride and out ride many a new Adventure baaik that is coming. But once u have had ur fair share of issues and or the big itch then go and buy one u will not be sorry.  >:D
So i guess what i am saying is that if it was possible to lend one for a month or 2 u will realize what they are about and u will buy one. Because u will realize that u are on the evolution of the 990 and so many of the things that is niggling on the 990 is now improved. . . except of course for the looks  :patch: :lol8:
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Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
« Reply #125 on: March 26, 2018, 03:45:59 pm »
JK, thanks for the report. Sounds good. I think the 1090R will be in my garage soon, busy with dealers to see what's the best price I can get...  :ricky: :thumleft:
 

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Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
« Reply #126 on: March 26, 2018, 06:25:36 pm »
JK, thanks for the report. Sounds good. I think the 1090R will be in my garage soon, busy with dealers to see what's the best price I can get...  :ricky: :thumleft:
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Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
« Reply #127 on: March 26, 2018, 06:30:24 pm »
And as u are doing a lot of dirt do these 2 things 1st.
Unifilter and dongle  :thumleft:
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Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
« Reply #128 on: May 15, 2018, 01:07:01 pm »
Then had the 15000km service done at Rad. As on the 1000km service they still have the 2options and I again went for the Motul Oil, Oilfilter replace and screens washed option. All in all about a R1000.00 cheaper than the other option where they replace all the screens and o-rings and use Motorex. So as noted oil, oil filter changed, and screens washed etc. Air filter and pre-filters (Unifilter) washed and oiled again. Brake fluid changed, bolt replaced on crash bar. All bolts checked. Came to about R3800.00.
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Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
« Reply #129 on: May 15, 2018, 01:09:02 pm »
So must say that although these filters do take some power . . .as bitched about there on the Top Speed tread  :patch: :lol8:
Must say that they do a pretty good job to keep out the gremlins out of the motor  :thumleft:
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Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
« Reply #130 on: May 15, 2018, 01:14:19 pm »
Then they also did the Fuel Pump re-call that was listed for this baaik.
Had a work offsite function on the Friday the day after the service and it was in the Magaliesburg area so then had the opportunity to see again what this has done to the TopSpeed. >:D
You could feel that the breathing was better and she pulled strong to 220km/h where it flattened out and stayed. So according to everyone at KTM SA this is how it is supposed to be when running the Unifilter setup.  :thumleft:
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Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
« Reply #131 on: May 15, 2018, 01:23:44 pm »
So a true 200
 

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Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
« Reply #132 on: May 15, 2018, 02:18:55 pm »
@JK  have you checked what the speedo error is on the 1090?

1190 is about 8% and 1290 about 4%
 

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« Reply #133 on: May 15, 2018, 02:27:30 pm »
@JK  have you checked what the STOCK speedo error is on the 1090?

1190 is about 8% and 1290 about 4%

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Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
« Reply #134 on: May 15, 2018, 02:53:34 pm »
@JK  have you checked what the speedo error is on the 1090?

1190 is about 8% and 1290 about 4%

Nope i dont know he error percentage for the 1090
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Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
« Reply #135 on: July 03, 2018, 08:29:19 pm »
JK,thanks for this thread sharing your experiences on the 1090.
Just a quick question, I see you did an oil change at 7500 kms, are the service intervals not 15000kms on these bikes?
Have you looked at the Motoz tyres,perhaps?
Also,please post a lot more pics of your bike,they really are dead sexy.TIA
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Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
« Reply #136 on: March 12, 2019, 10:48:15 am »
@JK after reading your fread many times over I am about to take the plunge and buy a 1090R, I'm keeping my 990S though. Although not a new one, it's a demo bike. I considered the 1290R and even looked at 500, but I think the 1090R is the one. Please update this thread with new information, to help me convince myself that I've made the right decision. ;D
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Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
« Reply #137 on: March 12, 2019, 11:10:35 am »
 but I think the 1090R is the one.

Ek dink jou S gaan net coffeeshop trips doen na jy die 1090 aangeskaf het :deal: ;)

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Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
« Reply #138 on: March 12, 2019, 11:12:59 am »
but I think the 1090R is the one.

Ek dink jou S gaan net coffeeshop trips doen na jy die 1090 aangeskaf het :deal: ;)

Ek sÍ sommer voorlopig geluk!! :thumleft:
Oom Chris ek moet nog eens die nummers maak klop, bank se gooi! Sal more Sien as ek in Brakpan noord is.
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Re: 1090 R - Starting a new relationship
« Reply #139 on: March 12, 2019, 11:14:31 am »
but I think the 1090R is the one.

Ek dink jou S gaan net coffeeshop trips doen na jy die 1090 aangeskaf het :deal: ;)

Ek sÍ sommer voorlopig geluk!! :thumleft:
Oom Chris ek moet nog eens die nummers maak klop, bank se gooi! Sal more Sien as ek in Brakpan noord is.
Maak net seker daai "demo" is nie n ex Limpopo bike nie, daai bike hou van sonder water loop!! :deal: :peepwall: ;)
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