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Submarine Motorcycles – a manufacturing sea change?
« on: December 11, 2017, 02:09:48 pm »
Submarine Motorcycles – a manufacturing sea change?

I’ve put this into the racing section because I have come to realize that unless you have actively campaigned a motorcycle that quite a few bike properties that are very important can be something that the chattering classes can talk and be knowledgeable about but are really of academic interest to them because in real life they find ways to avoid putting them to the test.

One of these is the wading depth of your bike.  At one time you could be pretty sure that every enduro would have at least one river crossing that would come up to your seat and your air box breathing and carburetor pipe routing was very important.
 
This seems to have changed. A few weeks ago I rode with a man on a Husky 125 who finished up with an engine full of water in not much more than 12 inches of water but I think something funny went on there. More recently my friend Pete mentioned duct taping the air box for snow, what he really meant was for the mountain stream run off when the snow melted. 

The thing that really brought this to the fore was yesterday I went for a ride with a new riding partner who had a KTM 300exc. On the return trip we worked our way back along the Umbogintwini valley with multiple river crossings which came up the bottom of the tank and seat level. His KTM didn’t just have a little sip, it just about drank the river dry. One time we turned it upside down it must have pumped out a couple of liters of water. I could see just by looking at the intake that the last thing on KTM’s mind was wading ability, the airbox cover was a rattling good fit and the carb sucked from right at the bottom of the airbox.

Am I missing something now? Do present enduro races not have river crossings? I know we have had dry seasons for years but this is an Austrian machine made for worldwide use.
 
 
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Re: Submarine Motorcycles – a manufacturing sea change?
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2017, 07:33:20 pm »
You have good point. my KLX drowns easy, top of boot height. Pinning it and hoping for the best seems the only cure at the moment. And in a race you get help from no one.

I could re-route the pipes but my airbox opening is just as you describe - shit.

Why they couldn't leave the air filter access at the top of the box and give us an easy off seat is beyond me ......
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Re: Submarine Motorcycles – a manufacturing sea change?
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2017, 08:19:22 pm »
I was pleasantly surprised with the dakkie yesterday.
At one stage I had water to nearly my seat and no hassles.
Few higher than my knees.
The kdx's just swam through.
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Re: Submarine Motorcycles – a manufacturing sea change?
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2017, 09:35:59 pm »
Shame on me. I was just reading my first post and I realized I gave my new riding buddy a bit of a hard time. He's a really nice guy and I hope he'll come riding with me again.
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Re: Submarine Motorcycles – a manufacturing sea change?
« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2017, 11:33:48 pm »
 :laughing4: :laughing4: :laughing4:

IanHasTeeth...... >:D

That looks like riding country designed by Sir DT1 himself!
 

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Re: Submarine Motorcycles – a manufacturing sea change?
« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2017, 06:32:55 am »
That looks like a proper ambush. Poor fellow  :biggrin:

I've taken note of a bunch of similar rides and whose invitations to avoid
 

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« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2017, 08:09:45 am »
I think you're close enough for me to extend you an invite Frankmac!
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« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2017, 09:12:10 am »
I think you're close enough for me to extend you an invite Frankmac!

Thanks Ian, but I reckon I'll take a rain check.  :thumleft: I'm not much of a masochist

Saw that one newcomer to the forum didn't take up TrevWb's invitation either after I alerted him to the terrain he's likely to encounter on a "Sunday ride".

 

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Re: Submarine Motorcycles – a manufacturing sea change?
« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2017, 09:42:48 am »
Shame, I thoroughly enjoyed Trevor's "Sunday rides." He's been a bit low for a while. Perhaps "heart attack ridge" got to him in the end!
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Re: Submarine Motorcycles – a manufacturing sea change?
« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2017, 01:31:10 pm »
Wow Ian, that terrain looks awesome. I can't explain how much I miss riding in the mountains. Absolutely zero enduro riding oppotunities down here in the southern Cape.  :xxbah:
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Re: Submarine Motorcycles – a manufacturing sea change?
« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2017, 02:20:23 pm »
Shame, I thoroughly enjoyed Trevor's "Sunday rides." He's been a bit low for a while. Perhaps "heart attack ridge" got to him in the end!
I went with him on that ride, was very nice and he was very considerate to the old toppie :peepwall:
I would not go where he really wanted to, not on my bike :imaposer:
Ian do not invite me please, I am getting to old for your type of riding, but I like your RR’s :thumleft:
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« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2018, 10:44:23 am »
Update: My new riding mate never came riding with me again and he's now sold his bike. Bugger!
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« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2018, 11:06:46 am »
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« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2018, 11:34:58 am »
Update: My new riding mate never came riding with me again and he's now sold his bike. Bugger!

Ouch.

Good point in the post, I'm not even sure what my plastic bike's wading depth is.
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