The real reasoning for the so-called "handbag fight" is to discredit any possible opinion that the AT is the better adv bike....
If we have to lable the evaluaters as being idiots, we do that! And to make double sure we insult the poster as much as possible too!
The only question that still concerns me: Is Werner/Renrew really the 32yr old well be-spoken spoilt brat from Sandton with an obsession with KTM - strangely never showing pictures or RR's, or is he the "joker" character established by ......., to spice up the forum a bit ....
***** Hijack - I just need to put this guy in his place for his comments about me, so please skip this if you don’t want to read about my first handbag swing.
So let me enlighten you oupatjie:
You think I am spoilt? You have NO idea how much I spoil
myself 
You think I don’t actually ride? Because I don’t post ride reports of me on gravel highways with a delivery bike?

You think I have an obsession with KTM? You’re right

To be fair, I’ve had enough onsessions to know what I’m talking about.
You think me thinking you are a moron is because of your copy paste articles? Nope, it’s because of what you say. In this and most cases you just post links and that’s why I addressed the ARTICLES claims and not YOUR claims.
I am sorry you are old, irrelevant and ride a delivery bike - But be careful who you take on toppie, no one cares about your hypothesis about me

PS - No one know’s what’s going on with your whole forum conspiracy theory, you just come across as a stupid grumpy old man that’s paranoid, and no, I don’t know any mods

Good luck with your purchase, you’ll need it

******** Apologies to anyone but XRRX that has had to read this ********