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Dreams of pirates and gunkholing
« on: January 10, 2018, 03:03:06 pm »
Inspired by WeeStrom recent posts and acting on long repressed dreams of adventure - I'm moving to the next phase beyond both being curious...  Designing and pricing

looking for a seaworthy, sturdy sailing dinghy to do multi-day gunkholing and cruiser-camping.  obviously a trailer dinghy

narrowed down to these two - both Dudley Dix designs

1. Argie 15 - classic plywood dinghy - beautiful
http://www.dixdesign.com/amateurs-dinghy2.htm

2. Explorer 18 - slightly bigger - grp construction - more practical I would guess.  Much less popular
http://www.sentinelboats.co.za/explorer.html

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Re: Dreams of pirates and gunkholing
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2018, 03:54:30 pm »
I will be following this thread with interest. Have you started pricing the materials and have you got an approximate cost of the completed build?
 

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Re: Dreams of pirates and gunkholing
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2018, 04:42:32 pm »
Not yet

Many options...

Plans only, built self - im a man with limited skills.  Can get someone else to do it up here though
Buy straight from builders in CT
Then, hull only, mast and rigging, etc
Then sails
Then fittings
Then trailer
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Re: Dreams of pirates and gunkholing
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2018, 04:52:20 pm »
Where do you plan to sail, and with how many crew?

Argie on Gumtree:

https://www.gumtree.co.za/a-yachts-sailboats/knysna/argie-15/1002189439310911314441809

Both the Argie and Explorer have free gunnels (no side decks) which means that when the rail goes under in a gust you scoop up a lot of water.
The heavy centerboard of the Explorer probably means you can take it out in worse conditions than the Argie. The Explorer has two reef points on the main sail and the jib is typically on a furler which leaves you with some options when things get really bad. It should not be an issue to fit these features to an Argie as well.

A mate of mine is restoring an Explorer, hopefully soon I can give you a firsthand report.

Graham Byrnes from B and B Yachting wrote this interesting article to help people choose between two of his 17 ft designs the Core Sound 17 and the Bay River Skiff:
http://www.bandbyachtdesigns.com/17-17.htm

The Core Sound is by all accounts an extremely capable boat. It regularly competes in coastal raids along the Texas and Florida coasts and often wins its class. They also have plans and kits for a MkIII version with a small cabin.
The open version is also available in 15ft. I am trying to convince Graham to design a 13ft version as well for solo cruising.

Other options to consider are some of John Welsford's designs from NZ, such as the Navigator.
http://www.jwboatdesigns.co.nz/plans/navigator/

His little SCAMP design  (https://www.duckworksbbs.com/product-p/jw-scamp.htm) would also be an option for solo camping.
Howard Rice recently took a heavily modified version cruising in Tierra del Fuego.

Wayfarers are also popular cruisers. Frank Dye famously sailed his from Scotland to Iceland and later also to the Faroe Islands and Norway. He then wrote the book "Ocean crossing Wayfarer".

The Ilur by Francois Vivier also has a following. Roger Barnes who wrote "The Dinghy Cruising Companion" cruises in one.

Or you can do what Robert Manry, author of "Tinkerbelle" did and take any old 13footer, farkle it beyond recognition and cross the Atlantic!

Good luck!
 

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Re: Dreams of pirates and gunkholing
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2018, 10:01:15 pm »
Cant find displacement comparisons between the A15 and E18?