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Trading F800 in for XRL
« on: January 30, 2018, 02:51:13 pm »
Hi guys,

Need some XR650L advice.

My boy is 13, turning 14 in June, and I want to get him a CRF230F.

I would like to join him for offroad rides, but feel that I have to trade the F800 in and get a XR650L.

My question: Will it also serve as a great commuter, as I commute daily to Jhb and back from Pta. Thus a 105 km round trip.

Don't really have the option to keep the F800 and also get a XR.

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Re: Trading F800 in for XRL
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2018, 02:57:41 pm »
Hi guys,

Need some XR650L advice.

My boy is 13, turning 14 in June, and I want to get him a CRF230F.

I would like to join him for offroad rides, but feel that I have to trade the F800 in and get a XR650L.

My question: Will it also serve as a great commuter, as I commute daily to Jhb and back from Pta. Thus a 105 km round trip.

Don't really have the option to keep the F800 and also get a XR.

Thanks,
Hennie

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I got a 1200GSA and kept my XR650L and gave it to my laaitjie. If I want to ride a XR then I still have it and long haul I use the couch. Keep the 800
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Re: Trading F800 in for XRL
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2018, 04:25:53 pm »
For the distance you have to travel I would also keep the 800 , what about getting something like a KDX200 or TTR250 for yourself instead of a 650 ?
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Re: Trading F800 in for XRL
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2018, 05:55:48 pm »
I would trade the 800 for the xr in a wink cause it’s just a far nicer bike 😂 ok yes I ride my xr.... jokes aside. The xr is the best bike I ever owned and although I commute on her occasionally I would not say it would be a nice daily long distance commute. Knoblies are crap on wet tar even if it is an e07 like in my case, they’re also not known for good fuel consumption. I say this with trepidation cause I know some bmw owner is going to be offended but coming from somebody that loves my xr so much I would never sell her not to mention that I hate as gs more than 2SD, I would say keep the gs and buy 2cheap plastics
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Re: Trading F800 in for XRL
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2018, 06:45:57 pm »
I say the XR650L is a very capable bike to commute with, depends if you like fancy dials, comfort and cruising more or can enjoy the simplicity of it. it's more honest a bike if you ask me. and that's the appeal. minimalistic.
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Re: Trading F800 in for XRL
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2018, 07:22:23 am »
I commute daily to Jhb and back from Pta. Thus a 105 km round trip

You've answered your own question there Hennie, it's a no-brainer really.
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Re: Trading F800 in for XRL
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2018, 09:07:37 am »
I commute daily to Jhb and back from Pta. Thus a 105 km round trip

You've answered your own question there Hennie, it's a no-brainer really.
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If it was a no brainer, I would not ask :biggrin: No, I lie, I know I have to keep the 800 and also get the XR.

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Re: Trading F800 in for XRL
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2018, 09:42:05 am »
The XR650L is capable of doing it, but it would not be my choice.
It's too slow and has too much vibration.
Also, riding on a highway will be riding at about the limit of what the engine is comfortable with. -fine for outrides & trips, but not for daily commuting (such a long way).

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Re: Trading F800 in for XRL
« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2018, 10:36:45 am »
I know I ..... also get the XR.

Quite frankly I don't think so.
You want to put your laaitie on a 230 (great bike, got one) for learning, and to aid/join/help him you want a 650L?
No squire, clumsy as well as unfair, better get a 230 yourself also - or as mentioned a KDX or why but a plastic bike, and the L is not really one.
This way he will think he has a chance to keep up instead of 'nottachance', and U2 will be able to do the technical stuff together.
No idea about your riding prowess but that 230 is highly underrated & capable for tight nitty gritty stuff, and it's here that one learns to ride a bike - and isn't that the idea?
Anyone can drop the hammer on an open (dirt)road, but here one only learns from painful if not dangerous off's.
Hey, it's your laaitie, your choice  ;)
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Re: Trading F800 in for XRL
« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2018, 01:13:08 pm »
Thanks for your replies.

My idea of getting a XRL has more to do with combining commuting, long trips and riding with my son, than mere riding offroad with my son.
Can't really afford to buy two bikes and keep the 800. So if I get something to join him in rides, it will also have to double up as a commuter.

But I agree - getting another smallish offroad bike (in addition to my 800) seems like the more logical choice.

My son has two years to master biking before the wife will let him commute to school (he is then 16)

.... and I really want an XRL :drif:
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Re: Trading F800 in for XRL
« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2018, 01:15:36 pm »
The XR650L is capable of doing it, but it would not be my choice.
It's too slow and has too much vibration.
Also, riding on a highway will be riding at about the limit of what the engine is comfortable with. -fine for outrides & trips, but not for daily commuting (such a long way).

 -R

The commuting is on the N1 from Menlyn to Parktown - hardly long/fast commuting - more like slow riding with the occasional burst ;D
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Re: Trading F800 in for XRL
« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2018, 01:24:39 pm »
Get one with a acerbis tank on cause at 105 km per day you are going to fill the std xr every day, 😂
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Re: Trading F800 in for XRL
« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2018, 02:53:32 pm »
OK my 2c here as I commute a daily round trip of 85km.....
 - Change the gearing to 14/40 so you can easily cruise at 130kmh and still have reserve to nip to 150 for overtaking etc....
 - Tank to Acerbis or Clarke for some range.... my 18L Clarke will run to 320km before hitting reserve thus averaging just under 20km/l (I run a Dynojet carb and modified airbox)
 - Vibrations are negligable, okes who complain are spoilt buggers..... ;)
 - Get a screen for some wind protection...
 - I do not find the bike uncomfy for commuting, in fact I love it... :thumleft:
 - Strong wind is a bit of a challenge as the mudguard acts like a parachute and the lightness of the bike causes some weave, but that occurs very seldom
 - Tyres tend to be more road orientated variety as the 50/50 splits just vapourise on commutes.......

Go for it...  :thumleft:



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Re: Trading F800 in for XRL
« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2018, 07:54:51 pm »
that's the spirit. it's an as honest a bike as you can get.
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Re: Trading F800 in for XRL
« Reply #14 on: February 02, 2018, 08:59:36 am »
OK my 2c here as I commute a daily round trip of 85km.....
 - Change the gearing to 14/40 so you can easily cruise at 130kmh and still have reserve to nip to 150 for overtaking etc....
 - Tank to Acerbis or Clarke for some range.... my 18L Clarke will run to 320km before hitting reserve thus averaging just under 20km/l (I run a Dynojet carb and modified airbox)
 - Vibrations are negligable, okes who complain are spoilt buggers..... ;)
 - Get a screen for some wind protection...
 - I do not find the bike uncomfy for commuting, in fact I love it... :thumleft:
 - Strong wind is a bit of a challenge as the mudguard acts like a parachute and the lightness of the bike causes some weave, but that occurs very seldom
 - Tyres tend to be more road orientated variety as the 50/50 splits just vapourise on commutes.......

Go for it...  :thumleft:

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Re: Trading F800 in for XRL
« Reply #15 on: February 16, 2018, 07:51:37 am »
OK my 2c here as I commute a daily round trip of 85km.....
 - Change the gearing to 14/40 so you can easily cruise at 130kmh and still have reserve to nip to 150 for overtaking etc....
 - Tank to Acerbis or Clarke for some range.... my 18L Clarke will run to 320km before hitting reserve thus averaging just under 20km/l (I run a Dynojet carb and modified airbox)
 - Vibrations are negligable, okes who complain are spoilt buggers..... ;)
 - Get a screen for some wind protection...
 - I do not find the bike uncomfy for commuting, in fact I love it... :thumleft:
 - Strong wind is a bit of a challenge as the mudguard acts like a parachute and the lightness of the bike causes some weave, but that occurs very seldom
 - Tyres tend to be more road orientated variety as the 50/50 splits just vapourise on commutes.......

Go for it...  :thumleft:
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Re: Trading F800 in for XRL
« Reply #16 on: February 16, 2018, 08:04:16 am »

You know you want to  :thumleft:  Gooi!
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