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Offline dezluan

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1997 Honda XR400R
« on: February 12, 2018, 02:46:14 pm »
Hi all,

Bike noob here.

Planning on getting a 1997 Honda XR400R - for touring purposes. Any advice? Good choice?

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Re: 1997 Honda XR400R
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2018, 02:58:31 pm »
Hi and welcome!

I'm sure someone will be along soon to tell you about the XR400R, else chat to Dux, he's a big XR fan  :thumleft:
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Re: 1997 Honda XR400R
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2018, 04:55:23 pm »
Touring as in 50/50 street dirt ? Then I'd say there will be a lot of better bikes out there. If you are mostly doing technical dirt using tar to connect it will be a good option.
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« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2018, 08:28:46 am »
Were these 400's ever road legal?

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Re: 1997 Honda XR400R
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2018, 08:43:37 am »
Were these 400's ever road legal?
Yes
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Re: 1997 Honda XR400R
« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2018, 08:55:11 am »
Most are screwed - check bottom frame rails for dents and rust, subframe also prone to cracking
 

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Re: 1997 Honda XR400R
« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2018, 09:04:34 am »
Simple, strong bikes if you can find a clean, un-abused one. Most have had the ring pulled through them. Kilroy on the forum here is selling what looks like a decent one. Check it out under the For Sale section.

As mentioned above, they are fine for "dirt touring" or short adventure trips, but there are better suited bikes for long distance and/or tar road touring.
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« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2018, 11:28:53 am »
My question was a little knee jerk....sorry for wasting you okes time. I am currently commuting on a little XR250 Tornado and am really enjoying it. More so than I did my Transalp 700. Having said this, it could do with just a fraction more oomph so my occasional stint on the highway can easily be achieved at 120km/h without revving the balls off the little thing. The 400 popped into mind but then I realized shortly after that it's kick start and I'm so over kick start anything......

I'd love the little CRF Rally type thing in a 400/500cc then I would happily pay the current asking price. Doesn't have to be a fire breathing animal either.

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Re: 1997 Honda XR400R
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2018, 12:19:10 pm »
Nope, touring implies some open road cruising involved and these bikes once laden with a rider + some luggage just do not cut it and nothing more dangerous on open road than being caught amongst traffic all the time..... even busses will be overtaking you..... ;)

Go for something a bit bigger imo..... smaller bikes are great for urban commutes and shorter distance but are just frustrating and downright dangerous on open roads in SA...

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Re: 1997 Honda XR400R
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2018, 12:20:10 pm »
I'd love the little CRF Rally type thing in a 400/500cc then I would happily pay the current asking price

Wouldn't we all ;)
 

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« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2018, 01:31:18 pm »
Thing is, my bike is a commuter first and foremost. I do the odd trip and I'm happy to use a bike in the 400 - 500cc category. Bottom line is if I need a smaller bike 90% of the time, I'm not gonna buy a bigger bike for the 10%.

I've owned over 50 bikes in my time, (big, small, medium) and I really like little bikes.....for so many obvious reasons. Ego is the biggest argument against the little bike in SA.

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Re: 1997 Honda XR400R
« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2018, 01:52:01 pm »
My question was a little knee jerk....sorry for wasting you okes time. I am currently commuting on a little XR250 Tornado and am really enjoying it. More so than I did my Transalp 700. Having said this, it could do with just a fraction more oomph so my occasional stint on the highway can easily be achieved at 120km/h without revving the balls off the little thing. The 400 popped into mind but then I realized shortly after that it's kick start and I'm so over kick start anything......

I'd love the little CRF Rally type thing in a 400/500cc then I would happily pay the current asking price. Doesn't have to be a fire breathing animal either.
The XR400 was built for single track trail riding, it had a close ratio gearbox. My friend who had one said that you are only looking at around comfortable 100km/h. So on road it's going to be slower than even Tornado. The DRZ 400 is much better here, at least it can do 130km/h.
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Re: 1997 Honda XR400R
« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2018, 11:54:13 pm »
dezluan - Go for it boet! :thumleft: Photos please.

bluath: I commuted for a while on my 2009 KTM 450 EXC - its is freaking AWESOME! The newer ones come with e-start so no issue.

I would get motard tyres though if you are sticking to tar because I have had a few hairy moments breaking hard on knobblies on slicky, oily tar. :deal:
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« Reply #13 on: February 14, 2018, 07:17:58 am »
MrBig, who used to be on this forum, used to or perhaps still owns a XR400.

We have gone on a few rides together, and the relaxed cruising speed is at around 110kph.

They start easily and are VERY capable offroad. Also reliable bikes.

My XT600E does not cruise much faster, and I have covered many kays on all sort of roads, including lots of highway.

The only times that the slow cruising speed was a problem was when you get caught by faster traffic on a shoulderless road where you can not pull over, and even then people are actually quite patient.

But when you hit the dirt on these small machines, it's smiles all the way.
 

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Re: 1997 Honda XR400R
« Reply #14 on: February 14, 2018, 09:05:20 pm »
i have an xr400r and my girlfriend an drz400. so know both bikes fairly well.
my xr gets used as an enduro, offroad and touring bike. i have completed 1 Amageza and Baja with this bike, change the front sprocket and you can sit at 110 to 115 km/h (gps speed) fairly okish. it does rev high then but it takes it no problem. while racing i get 18km/liter not bad. it was designed as a trail bike, pre crf. reliable as can be, just check the oil. i have done multiple day trips with big bikes and they dont have to wait. in a group just ride last in line. obviously you are not sitting with highspeed gravel riders. but touring at 160 is stupid. starts easy when a pumper carb is fitted.

as mentioned here bottom of frame under the engine does rust. just cut out the rust and weld it up again. seat is not great. re upholster and it ll do fine. it is great in real hardcore offroad areas. just enough power with good suspention. no space for loads of luggage, giantloop works well. i had an xr650r, and i prefer the 400.

ps i prefer it to the drz400 as well. drz feels like it has more power though.

you can probably get a better touring bike, or a better enduro bike, or better offorad bike, rallye bike. But you gonna battle to find a cheap AND reliable one that does it all. except the xr400r
 
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« Reply #15 on: February 15, 2018, 07:41:43 am »
i have an xr400r and my girlfriend an drz400. so know both bikes fairly well.
my xr gets used as an enduro, offroad and touring bike. i have completed 1 Amageza and Baja with this bike, change the front sprocket and you can sit at 110 to 115 km/h (gps speed) fairly okish. it does rev high then but it takes it no problem. while racing i get 18km/liter not bad. it was designed as a trail bike, pre crf. reliable as can be, just check the oil. i have done multiple day trips with big bikes and they dont have to wait. in a group just ride last in line. obviously you are not sitting with highspeed gravel riders. but touring at 160 is stupid. starts easy when a pumper carb is fitted.

as mentioned here bottom of frame under the engine does rust. just cut out the rust and weld it up again. seat is not great. re upholster and it ll do fine. it is great in real hardcore offroad areas. just enough power with good suspention. no space for loads of luggage, giantloop works well. i had an xr650r, and i prefer the 400.

ps i prefer it to the drz400 as well. drz feels like it has more power though.

you can probably get a better touring bike, or a better enduro bike, or better offorad bike, rallye bike. But you gonna battle to find a cheap AND reliable one that does it all. except the xr400r


This is one of the most pragmatic, common sense posts I've read in a very long time.  :thumleft:

Compare the DRZ and the XR400 a little more please. I've owned the DRZ. I hated the gearing and the suspension was pretty kak, especially the front.....it was just rather harsh, even after I did everything I could to get rid of stiction. The engine was lekker though.  I've also owned almost every XR except for the 400 and 650r,

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Re: 1997 Honda XR400R
« Reply #16 on: February 15, 2018, 08:42:59 am »
i have an xr400r and my girlfriend an drz400. so know both bikes fairly well.
my xr gets used as an enduro, offroad and touring bike. i have completed 1 Amageza and Baja with this bike, change the front sprocket and you can sit at 110 to 115 km/h (gps speed) fairly okish. it does rev high then but it takes it no problem. while racing i get 18km/liter not bad. it was designed as a trail bike, pre crf. reliable as can be, just check the oil. i have done multiple day trips with big bikes and they dont have to wait. in a group just ride last in line. obviously you are not sitting with highspeed gravel riders. but touring at 160 is stupid. starts easy when a pumper carb is fitted.

as mentioned here bottom of frame under the engine does rust. just cut out the rust and weld it up again. seat is not great. re upholster and it ll do fine. it is great in real hardcore offroad areas. just enough power with good suspention. no space for loads of luggage, giantloop works well. i had an xr650r, and i prefer the 400.

ps i prefer it to the drz400 as well. drz feels like it has more power though.

you can probably get a better touring bike, or a better enduro bike, or better offorad bike, rallye bike. But you gonna battle to find a cheap AND reliable one that does it all. except the xr400r

Good to hear my old XR400R is still going strong  :thumleft:


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