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Offline HeeBs

Re: Triumph is back in SA
« Reply #20 on: March 02, 2018, 01:55:58 pm »
Personally.......coming back with a marginal brand , I cant see them doing any better than Kawa SA. Not in the SA economy. SA has changed people. We are not a huge country of biking anymore. The new young South Africans aren't interested in biking as such. Only being able to buy a flash cage. Those people who can afford bikes are buying BMW's , Harleys etc. and those others are getting 125's for transport to school are varsity. Tell me I'm wrong.

I see a huge increase in biking from the black-middle class. Every meeting / rally I've been to, there are more and more black bikers. This is a huge market that is discovering biking.
From my lilly white point of view, most black guys shunned bikes but that seems to be changing. However I'm not sure if these "new" bikers are into foreign bikes. I see mostly the Jap bikes and Harleys.
 

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Re: Triumph is back in SA
« Reply #21 on: March 02, 2018, 02:15:42 pm »
Personally.......coming back with a marginal brand , I cant see them doing any better than Kawa SA. Not in the SA economy. SA has changed people. We are not a huge country of biking anymore. The new young South Africans aren't interested in biking as such. Only being able to buy a flash cage. Those people who can afford bikes are buying BMW's , Harleys etc. and those others are getting 125's for transport to school are varsity. Tell me I'm wrong.

I see a huge increase in biking from the black-middle class. Every meeting / rally I've been to, there are more and more black bikers. This is a huge market that is discovering biking.
From my lilly white point of view, most black guys shunned bikes but that seems to be changing. However I'm not sure if these "new" bikers are into foreign bikes. I see mostly the Jap bikes and Harleys.

Yup, particularly Sport bikes and Harleys.
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Re: Triumph is back in SA
« Reply #22 on: March 02, 2018, 02:30:23 pm »

Yip, Triumphs would be considered "Colonialist". Until of course they discover the Rocket  :lol8:
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Re: Triumph is back in SA
« Reply #23 on: March 03, 2018, 08:40:03 am »
I'm glad to see that MHM Cape Town will still do our triumph's that included warranty bikes,big thanks to them(FB) :thumleft:
 

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Re: Triumph is back in SA
« Reply #24 on: March 03, 2018, 09:42:30 am »
Personally.......coming back with a marginal brand , I cant see them doing any better than Kawa SA. Not in the SA economy. SA has changed people. We are not a huge country of biking anymore. The new young South Africans aren't interested in biking as such. Only being able to buy a flash cage. Those people who can afford bikes are buying BMW's , Harleys etc. and those others are getting 125's for transport to school are varsity. Tell me I'm wrong.

I see a huge increase in biking from the black-middle class. Every meeting / rally I've been to, there are more and more black bikers. This is a huge market that is discovering biking.
From my lilly white point of view, most black guys shunned bikes but that seems to be changing. However I'm not sure if these "new" bikers are into foreign bikes. I see mostly the Jap bikes and Harleys.
Interesting point.
I have also noticed more coloured bikers, it is a good thing and I hope that it will increase.
The few that I have met have been very polite and immediately friendly to a fellow biker.
Definitely the attitude we need in this country.
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Re: Triumph is back in SA
« Reply #25 on: March 03, 2018, 01:34:48 pm »
if the price is right , and the service is right , they will be successful
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Re: Triumph is back in SA
« Reply #26 on: March 03, 2018, 03:49:43 pm »
Rather amusing to me to see that Japanese brands and Harleys are not seen as foreign (are they domestic?) in South Africa, but apparently Triumphs are. Presumably the same goes for the German, Austrian, Italian and other nationalities, filthy foreigners all of 'em.

Send them back to where they came from. That's what I say!  :pot:
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Re: Triumph is back in SA
« Reply #27 on: March 04, 2018, 05:28:09 pm »
Did they ever leave?  :peepwall:

Seems they merely changed distributors.
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Re: Triumph is back in SA
« Reply #28 on: March 04, 2018, 05:34:49 pm »
Did they ever leave?  :peepwall:

Seems they merely changed distributors.

There were about three months when you couldn’t buy a new Triumph. Also, there were about five months when we didn’t know for sure if there’d be a new distributor.
 

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Re: Triumph is back in SA
« Reply #29 on: March 04, 2018, 05:43:18 pm »
Personally.......coming back with a marginal brand , I cant see them doing any better than Kawa SA. Not in the SA economy. SA has changed people. We are not a huge country of biking anymore. The new young South Africans aren't interested in biking as such. Only being able to buy a flash cage. Those people who can afford bikes are buying BMW's , Harleys etc. and those others are getting 125's for transport to school are varsity. Tell me I'm wrong.

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Re: Triumph is back in SA
« Reply #30 on: March 04, 2018, 05:47:26 pm »
Did they ever leave?  :peepwall:

Seems they merely changed distributors.

There were about three months when you couldn’t buy a new Triumph. Also, there were about five months when we didn’t know for sure if there’d be a new distributor.

I hear you. But don’t really believe that Triumph would have pulled out.

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Re: Triumph is back in SA
« Reply #31 on: March 04, 2018, 06:57:35 pm »
Did they ever leave?  :peepwall:

Seems they merely changed distributors.

There were about three months when you couldn’t buy a new Triumph. Also, there were about five months when we didn’t know for sure if there’d be a new distributor.

I hear you. But don’t really believe that Triumph would have pulled out.

They did pull out. And they signed a contract with the new guys only in February. If that had fallen apart they’d still be searching.
 

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Re: Triumph is back in SA
« Reply #32 on: March 04, 2018, 07:24:09 pm »
Ok since they are here to stay, what new models is in the lineup? I know the 1200 is now almost entirely a new bike for 2018 since a lot of changes has been made. I still think that they rule the 'retro look' in the bonnieville twin model series. That Truxton is just the most stunning bike as well. Hope their pricing will be competitive.
Not sure if the 800 XCX will sell any longer because shortly before they hit the bump with KMSA it was selling same price as the Honda AT and the AT in my opinion just a lot more bike and value. Would be interesting to hear Triumph models lineup and news.
 

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Re: Triumph is back in SA
« Reply #33 on: March 04, 2018, 07:38:02 pm »
Triumph is am awesome brand and I have huge respect for what John Bloor has done. However when you leave a country and all the bikes are discounted by the previous supplier to try and reduce their losses it creates bad taste in peoples mouths and that wont be forgotten overnight. A bit like GM coming back next year and saying sorry can we be friends again and will you buy shit loads of our vehicles................NO WE WON'T.   :pot:
 

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Re: Triumph is back in SA
« Reply #34 on: March 04, 2018, 07:38:28 pm »
Honda are having huge specials on AT,s trying to clear stock before the new spec arrives (seriously annoying guys who bought at full price) You can get an ABS traction control model for R142k. The 800 tigers also appear to be an all new model and I would imagine they would be priced similarly to the new AT and soon to be launched 850gs
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Re: Triumph is back in SA
« Reply #35 on: March 04, 2018, 07:40:34 pm »
The way I read the press release is for the next year or two there'll be no franchises outside of J/Burg/Pretoria.

The previous Triumph dealers will only have access to spare parts but won't be stocking new bikes. Correct me if I'm wrong.

I can't see the brand surviving if this is the case. Sadly.
 

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« Reply #36 on: March 04, 2018, 08:26:14 pm »
The way I read the press release is for the next year or two there'll be no franchises outside of J/Burg/Pretoria.

The previous Triumph dealers will only have access to spare parts but won't be stocking new bikes. Correct me if I'm wrong.

I can't see the brand surviving if this is the case. Sadly.
I agree with most of what you say.
I think triumph is a good brand with a good product. They have always been selling bikes maybe not fantastic numbers. They also have quite a loyal fan base.
But yes waiting so long to get new blood in might stun the inroads they could have made with the new models.

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Re: Triumph is back in SA
« Reply #37 on: March 04, 2018, 10:19:11 pm »
The way I read the press release is for the next year or two there'll be no franchises outside of J/Burg/Pretoria.

The previous Triumph dealers will only have access to spare parts but won't be stocking new bikes. Correct me if I'm wrong.

I can't see the brand surviving if this is the case. Sadly.

I understand the concern, but may I suggest a case study - Ducati. They have only recently opened a Cape Town dealership, and yet they have been selling more units than South Africa ever has out of their sole Johannesburg store.
 

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Re: Triumph is back in SA
« Reply #38 on: March 06, 2018, 10:49:35 pm »
I would kinda put Ducati in a different league to Triumph. Duc more like Porsche and Ferrari.
 

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Re: Triumph is back in SA
« Reply #39 on: March 07, 2018, 06:26:41 am »
I would kinda put Ducati in a different league to Triumph. Duc more like Porsche and Ferrari.
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