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Offline Roadhawg

Anybody actually replaced steering neck bearings?
« on: March 14, 2018, 10:44:42 am »
Bike's got like 14000kms. 

I felt the "click" in the front end but no other symptoms so took it in to get them tightened...didn't feel like faffing, it's under warranty.  The dealer now wants to replace the bearings, not under warranty.

I'm pretty sure they're just fishing for work to do, money to make.   Has anyone actually had to change the bearing?   Lifting the front wheel in the air feels perfectly smooth left to right to me.




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Re: Anybody actually replaced steering neck bearings?
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2018, 11:59:31 am »
Hi Roadhawg, i had the same problem some time ago. My 1190 had 8000 km's on, also still under warranty. Dealer also said that the neck bearings are not covered under warranty. They replaced them with aftermarket bearings .Now on 23 000 km's and still fine.
 

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Re: Anybody actually replaced steering neck bearings?
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2018, 01:14:43 pm »
got my bike at 20k km and soon after they felt loose.
Got very loose on a trip and I had them replaced at, I guess, 28000.
Currently at 31000 and they feel loose again. A problem item in my opinion, but I will tighten them myself, just need to buy the C spanner thingy.

I would have them tightened and only replace if the problem pops up again.


Bad Dog, did the dealer fit the aftermarket bearings? did they source them? What make were they?
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Re: Anybody actually replaced steering neck bearings?
« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2018, 03:32:54 pm »
got my bike at 20k km and soon after they felt loose.
Got very loose on a trip and I had them replaced at, I guess, 28000.
Currently at 31000 and they feel loose again. A problem item in my opinion, but I will tighten them myself, just need to buy the C spanner thingy.

I would have them tightened and only replace if the problem pops up again.


Bad Dog, did the dealer fit the aftermarket bearings? did they source them? What make were they?

It's done the "click" under braking once before, tightened them up and it went away.      I think I'll try that again for now and keep an eye on it.  No other symptoms or weaving or wobbling or anything.
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Re: Anybody actually replaced steering neck bearings?
« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2018, 03:43:14 pm »
Mine have become very very loose. and once tightened its okay again, not giving issues (for half an hour). That off course always in the middle of a trip.
I wouldn't change unless you know it was loose and you were doing a lot of mileage on dirt roads with it being loose, like I did.
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Re: Anybody actually replaced steering neck bearings?
« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2018, 03:57:09 pm »
got my bike at 20k km and soon after they felt loose.
Got very loose on a trip and I had them replaced at, I guess, 28000.
Currently at 31000 and they feel loose again. A problem item in my opinion, but I will tighten them myself, just need to buy the C spanner thingy.

I would have them tightened and only replace if the problem pops up again.


Bad Dog, did the dealer fit the aftermarket bearings? did they source them? What make were they?





 

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Re: Anybody actually replaced steering neck bearings?
« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2018, 04:04:49 pm »
Mine have become very very loose. and once tightened its okay again, not giving issues (for half an hour). That off course always in the middle of a trip.
I wouldn't change unless you know it was loose and you were doing a lot of mileage on dirt roads with it being loose, like I did.

I only noticed it really on Friday.  Did like 10km Saturday......And then rode 115km to Rustenburg and stuffed around on the skills track there :-[ Including jumps and shit on sunday.    But worth a shot tightening them first and seeing I reckon

1hr labour and they tightened em, put some lube and bled the brakes (the fronts were feeling a bit pap....MUCH better if you "double pumped" them so I figure they could use a bleed.   I need to learn how to do that part myself.
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Re: Anybody actually replaced steering neck bearings?
« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2018, 04:44:19 pm »
got my bike at 20k km and soon after they felt loose.
Got very loose on a trip and I had them replaced at, I guess, 28000.
Currently at 31000 and they feel loose again. A problem item in my opinion, but I will tighten them myself, just need to buy the C spanner thingy.

I would have them tightened and only replace if the problem pops up again.


Bad Dog, did the dealer fit the aftermarket bearings? did they source them? What make were they?


The Dealer fitted the new neck bearings.They had them in stock.(www.allballsracing.com) was the make if i remember correctly,they just supply bearing kits for bikes i think. I will try find out what make they were. The Dealer was in Cape Town.
 
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Re: Anybody actually replaced steering neck bearings?
« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2018, 02:28:58 pm »
Ya, i've heard good things about all-balls.



Got the bike back and jeez it feels like new.  Just from a proper lube and wash, steering bearings tightened and brake fluid flush. :thumleft:
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Re: Anybody actually replaced steering neck bearings?
« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2018, 03:00:07 pm »
Next time  :thumleft:

 

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Re: Anybody actually replaced steering neck bearings?
« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2018, 08:00:28 pm »
Mine is also clicking under braking at 18000km. How much did they charge?


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Re: Anybody actually replaced steering neck bearings?
« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2018, 12:04:02 pm »
Mine is also clicking under braking at 18000km. How much did they charge?


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I asked them just to tighten the bearings again and Iíll keep an eye on it and if keeps coming back then Iíll change the bearing.

So it was just 750 for some labour and brakefluid flush and bleed.
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Re: Anybody actually replaced steering neck bearings?
« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2018, 12:05:12 pm »
Look if you ride hard and for a while with it clicking you are steadily damaging that bearing.
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Re: Anybody actually replaced steering neck bearings?
« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2018, 02:38:51 pm »
Previous service I torqued to recommended but clicking persists. Maw moer toe


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Re: Anybody actually replaced steering neck bearings?
« Reply #14 on: May 11, 2018, 05:29:50 pm »
I think the clicking is coming back....Front end feels a bit wallowy too.


So....How hard is this to DIY?

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Re: Anybody actually replaced steering neck bearings?
« Reply #15 on: May 16, 2018, 09:36:05 am »
So nobody has changed these themselves? 

Need to do this and the 2year service (which I guess is valve check.....Any good 1190 independent guys around JHB?)
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Re: Anybody actually replaced steering neck bearings?
« Reply #16 on: May 16, 2018, 10:46:13 pm »
Someone here must have DIY'd it already ???
 

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Re: Anybody actually replaced steering neck bearings?
« Reply #17 on: May 17, 2018, 07:52:30 am »
Plenty on the forum who've done neck bearings, many times over. 1190 will be the same as other bikes.

The sizes should be in the parts catalogue and will be written on the bearing itself.

The old bearing race can either be knocked out with a drive of some sort, or removed with a special tool, or scrape them with a welder them and they just drop out.
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Re: Anybody actually replaced steering neck bearings?
« Reply #18 on: May 17, 2018, 01:38:33 pm »
Plenty on the forum who've done neck bearings, many times over. 1190 will be the same as other bikes.

The sizes should be in the parts catalogue and will be written on the bearing itself.

The old bearing race can either be knocked out with a drive of some sort, or removed with a special tool, or scrape them with a welder them and they just drop out.

Thanks man.  I'll get a quote from the stealers anyway and see if it's worth it  :peepwall:
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Re: Anybody actually replaced steering neck bearings?
« Reply #19 on: May 17, 2018, 01:42:37 pm »
This is what I paid at KTM:
#KTM# 60301081010/STEARING HEAD REP. KIT ADV 1.300 R1,548.25 0.00% 14.00% R1,765.00

But remember that from the dealership that screwed up everything, and I am starting to suspect this as well....
SO look at that as the minimum cost.
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