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Re: Moto Guzzi V85
« Reply #20 on: March 15, 2018, 05:12:02 pm »
I recon Moto Guzzi have a winner there. I would certainly buy one.
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Re: Moto Guzzi V85
« Reply #21 on: March 17, 2018, 11:05:32 pm »
Seems its only due for release in 2021. Damn, its a long time to wait.  :-\

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Re: Moto Guzzi V85
« Reply #22 on: March 18, 2018, 06:12:12 am »
Seems its only due for release in 2021. Damn, its a long time to wait.  :-\

Ek is SO bly, want as hy hier aankom is ek in die skuld !  :P

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Re: Moto Guzzi V85
« Reply #23 on: March 18, 2018, 09:37:45 am »
If this was to be purchased for the purpose of riding some serious off road, I would be hesitant. this is more an attempt to get a little bit of the adventure market, than a serious attempt to build an off-road worthy bike. plus off course, they don't have experience building such bikes. if you want to ride this more on than off road, it should be fine. if you do gravel highway, perhaps. I can imagine that the bike is a write off as well, with just a minor off. that tank..
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Re: Moto Guzzi V85
« Reply #24 on: March 18, 2018, 09:44:56 am »
If this was to be purchased for the purpose of riding some serious off road, I would be hesitant. this is more an attempt to get a little bit of the adventure market, than a serious attempt to build an off-road worthy bike. plus off course, they don't have experience building such bikes. if you want to ride this more on than off road, it should be fine. if you do gravel highway, perhaps. I can imagine that the bike is a write off as well, with just a minor off. that tank..

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Re: Moto Guzzi V85
« Reply #25 on: March 18, 2018, 10:10:06 am »
I will just leave this here ... and I quote from above link 8)

"Moto Guzzi has come full circle. After apeing the BMW G/S with their half-baked but charming TT, they are now making a bloated faux-enduro tourer aimed squarely at stealing market share from that caricature of an off-roader that is the R1200GS. Long gone are the weird V-twin powered oversized enduros that could be coaxed into traversing the globe or running the Dakar: today Guzzi has joined the leagues of BMW knockoffs pandering to middle-aged riders with marketing-driven dreams of globe-conquering go-anywhere adventures in their minds - and hernia-inducing tipovers in the Starbucks parking lot in their reality. Moto Guzzi's previous attempts at off-roaders were the best kind of unholy abominations that have been forgotten in the rush to build the biggest two-wheeled equivalent of a sport utility vehicle that can turn a profit. The TT, NTX and Quota will remain obscure skeletons in the Piaggio corporate closet, relics of an era when Moto Guzzi was still weird enough to be interesting and dumb enough to be daring, and were happy to leave the dull profit chasing to the Japanese and German bean counters."

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Re: Moto Guzzi V85
« Reply #26 on: March 18, 2018, 11:10:04 am »
I will just leave this here ... and I quote from above link 8)

"Moto Guzzi has come full circle. After apeing the BMW G/S with their half-baked but charming TT, they are now making a bloated faux-enduro tourer aimed squarely at stealing market share from that caricature of an off-roader that is the R1200GS. Long gone are the weird V-twin powered oversized enduros that could be coaxed into traversing the globe or running the Dakar: today Guzzi has joined the leagues of BMW knockoffs pandering to middle-aged riders with marketing-driven dreams of globe-conquering go-anywhere adventures in their minds - and hernia-inducing tipovers in the Starbucks parking lot in their reality. Moto Guzzi's previous attempts at off-roaders were the best kind of unholy abominations that have been forgotten in the rush to build the biggest two-wheeled equivalent of a sport utility vehicle that can turn a profit. The TT, NTX and Quota will remain obscure skeletons in the Piaggio corporate closet, relics of an era when Moto Guzzi was still weird enough to be interesting and dumb enough to be daring, and were happy to leave the dull profit chasing to the Japanese and German bean counters."



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Re: Moto Guzzi V85
« Reply #27 on: March 18, 2018, 11:59:26 am »
I will just leave this here ... and I quote from above link 8)

"Moto Guzzi has come full circle. After apeing the BMW G/S with their half-baked but charming TT, they are now making a bloated faux-enduro tourer aimed squarely at stealing market share from that caricature of an off-roader that is the R1200GS. Long gone are the weird V-twin powered oversized enduros that could be coaxed into traversing the globe or running the Dakar: today Guzzi has joined the leagues of BMW knockoffs pandering to middle-aged riders with marketing-driven dreams of globe-conquering go-anywhere adventures in their minds - and hernia-inducing tipovers in the Starbucks parking lot in their reality. Moto Guzzi's previous attempts at off-roaders were the best kind of unholy abominations that have been forgotten in the rush to build the biggest two-wheeled equivalent of a sport utility vehicle that can turn a profit. The TT, NTX and Quota will remain obscure skeletons in the Piaggio corporate closet, relics of an era when Moto Guzzi was still weird enough to be interesting and dumb enough to be daring, and were happy to leave the dull profit chasing to the Japanese and German bean counters."



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Re: Moto Guzzi V85
« Reply #28 on: March 18, 2018, 12:28:10 pm »
I will just leave this here ... and I quote from above link 8)

"Moto Guzzi has come full circle. After apeing the BMW G/S with their half-baked but charming TT, they are now making a bloated faux-enduro tourer aimed squarely at stealing market share from that caricature of an off-roader that is the R1200GS. Long gone are the weird V-twin powered oversized enduros that could be coaxed into traversing the globe or running the Dakar: today Guzzi has joined the leagues of BMW knockoffs pandering to middle-aged riders with marketing-driven dreams of globe-conquering go-anywhere adventures in their minds - and hernia-inducing tipovers in the Starbucks parking lot in their reality. Moto Guzzi's previous attempts at off-roaders were the best kind of unholy abominations that have been forgotten in the rush to build the biggest two-wheeled equivalent of a sport utility vehicle that can turn a profit. The TT, NTX and Quota will remain obscure skeletons in the Piaggio corporate closet, relics of an era when Moto Guzzi was still weird enough to be interesting and dumb enough to be daring, and were happy to leave the dull profit chasing to the Japanese and German bean counters."



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How boring it all would be if we were all HP2 andKTMriders. What would we talk about ?

Ja and there are so many HP2 riders around, and such a boring bike hey? Grumpy Oom vandag? Will the Vespa not start?

Personally have had a bit of a soft spot for Guzzi's myself, esp the Le Mans 2.  ::)
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Re: Moto Guzzi V85
« Reply #29 on: March 18, 2018, 01:10:10 pm »
I will just leave this here ... and I quote from above link 8)

"Moto Guzzi has come full circle. After apeing the BMW G/S with their half-baked but charming TT, they are now making a bloated faux-enduro tourer aimed squarely at stealing market share from that caricature of an off-roader that is the R1200GS. Long gone are the weird V-twin powered oversized enduros that could be coaxed into traversing the globe or running the Dakar: today Guzzi has joined the leagues of BMW knockoffs pandering to middle-aged riders with marketing-driven dreams of globe-conquering go-anywhere adventures in their minds - and hernia-inducing tipovers in the Starbucks parking lot in their reality. Moto Guzzi's previous attempts at off-roaders were the best kind of unholy abominations that have been forgotten in the rush to build the biggest two-wheeled equivalent of a sport utility vehicle that can turn a profit. The TT, NTX and Quota will remain obscure skeletons in the Piaggio corporate closet, relics of an era when Moto Guzzi was still weird enough to be interesting and dumb enough to be daring, and were happy to leave the dull profit chasing to the Japanese and German bean counters."



Ouch!

How boring it all would be if we were all HP2 andKTMriders. What would we talk about ?

Ja and there are so many HP2 riders around, and such a boring bike hey? Grumpy oom vandag?

Personally have had a bit of a soft spot for Guzzi's myself, esp the Le Mans 2.  ::)

I remember in about 1980, jumping off my modified GS750B onto a mates Guzzi, the GS was awesome but a UJM all revs not so much bottom end, the Guzzi was like an elastic band power delivery, found it so different the way it just grew and launched you forward.   :biggrin:
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Re: Moto Guzzi V85
« Reply #30 on: March 18, 2018, 04:49:49 pm »
I will just leave this here ... and I quote from above link 8)

"Moto Guzzi has come full circle. After apeing the BMW G/S with their half-baked but charming TT, they are now making a bloated faux-enduro tourer aimed squarely at stealing market share from that caricature of an off-roader that is the R1200GS. Long gone are the weird V-twin powered oversized enduros that could be coaxed into traversing the globe or running the Dakar: today Guzzi has joined the leagues of BMW knockoffs pandering to middle-aged riders with marketing-driven dreams of globe-conquering go-anywhere adventures in their minds - and hernia-inducing tipovers in the Starbucks parking lot in their reality. Moto Guzzi's previous attempts at off-roaders were the best kind of unholy abominations that have been forgotten in the rush to build the biggest two-wheeled equivalent of a sport utility vehicle that can turn a profit. The TT, NTX and Quota will remain obscure skeletons in the Piaggio corporate closet, relics of an era when Moto Guzzi was still weird enough to be interesting and dumb enough to be daring, and were happy to leave the dull profit chasing to the Japanese and German bean counters."

For the sake of clarity, the journo is referring to the Stelvio. It did weight a "hernia-inducing" 304kg.

The V85 is rumoured to be 195kg dry. Beautiful bike.

My impression is that Moto Guzzi cater for bikers that prefer to live outside the sheep pen.
 

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Re: Moto Guzzi V85
« Reply #31 on: March 18, 2018, 04:52:23 pm »
Though not a V85 this custom V9 is rather easy on the eye.

http://www.pipeburn.com/home/2018/03/16/moto-guzzi-v9-urban-scrambler.html

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Re: Moto Guzzi V85
« Reply #32 on: March 18, 2018, 06:21:23 pm »
I will just leave this here ... and I quote from above link 8)

"Moto Guzzi has come full circle. After apeing the BMW G/S with their half-baked but charming TT, they are now making a bloated faux-enduro tourer aimed squarely at stealing market share from that caricature of an off-roader that is the R1200GS. Long gone are the weird V-twin powered oversized enduros that could be coaxed into traversing the globe or running the Dakar: today Guzzi has joined the leagues of BMW knockoffs pandering to middle-aged riders with marketing-driven dreams of globe-conquering go-anywhere adventures in their minds - and hernia-inducing tipovers in the Starbucks parking lot in their reality. Moto Guzzi's previous attempts at off-roaders were the best kind of unholy abominations that have been forgotten in the rush to build the biggest two-wheeled equivalent of a sport utility vehicle that can turn a profit. The TT, NTX and Quota will remain obscure skeletons in the Piaggio corporate closet, relics of an era when Moto Guzzi was still weird enough to be interesting and dumb enough to be daring, and were happy to leave the dull profit chasing to the Japanese and German bean counters."

For the sake of clarity, the journo is referring to the Stelvio. It did weight a "hernia-inducing" 304kg.

The V85 is rumoured to be 195kg dry. Beautiful bike.

My impression is that Moto Guzzi cater for bikers that prefer to live outside the sheep pen.
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Re: Moto Guzzi V85
« Reply #33 on: March 18, 2018, 08:01:07 pm »
I will just leave this here ... and I quote from above link 8)

"Moto Guzzi has come full circle. After apeing the BMW G/S with their half-baked but charming TT, they are now making a bloated faux-enduro tourer aimed squarely at stealing market share from that caricature of an off-roader that is the R1200GS. Long gone are the weird V-twin powered oversized enduros that could be coaxed into traversing the globe or running the Dakar: today Guzzi has joined the leagues of BMW knockoffs pandering to middle-aged riders with marketing-driven dreams of globe-conquering go-anywhere adventures in their minds - and hernia-inducing tipovers in the Starbucks parking lot in their reality. Moto Guzzi's previous attempts at off-roaders were the best kind of unholy abominations that have been forgotten in the rush to build the biggest two-wheeled equivalent of a sport utility vehicle that can turn a profit. The TT, NTX and Quota will remain obscure skeletons in the Piaggio corporate closet, relics of an era when Moto Guzzi was still weird enough to be interesting and dumb enough to be daring, and were happy to leave the dull profit chasing to the Japanese and German bean counters."

For the sake of clarity, the journo is referring to the Stelvio. It did weight a "hernia-inducing" 304kg.

The V85 is rumoured to be 195kg dry. Beautiful bike.

My impression is that Moto Guzzi cater for bikers that prefer to live outside the sheep pen.

Keep in mind that KTM riders today fall smack-bang in the "sheep-pen", if you look at numbers. Outside the sheep-pen you find Guzzi, Royal Enfield, etc.
 

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Re: Moto Guzzi V85
« Reply #34 on: March 18, 2018, 08:02:28 pm »
I will just leave this here ... and I quote from above link 8)

"Moto Guzzi has come full circle. After apeing the BMW G/S with their half-baked but charming TT, they are now making a bloated faux-enduro tourer aimed squarely at stealing market share from that caricature of an off-roader that is the R1200GS. Long gone are the weird V-twin powered oversized enduros that could be coaxed into traversing the globe or running the Dakar: today Guzzi has joined the leagues of BMW knockoffs pandering to middle-aged riders with marketing-driven dreams of globe-conquering go-anywhere adventures in their minds - and hernia-inducing tipovers in the Starbucks parking lot in their reality. Moto Guzzi's previous attempts at off-roaders were the best kind of unholy abominations that have been forgotten in the rush to build the biggest two-wheeled equivalent of a sport utility vehicle that can turn a profit. The TT, NTX and Quota will remain obscure skeletons in the Piaggio corporate closet, relics of an era when Moto Guzzi was still weird enough to be interesting and dumb enough to be daring, and were happy to leave the dull profit chasing to the Japanese and German bean counters."

That caricature of an off roader that is the R1200GS. How stunningly true.

 

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Re: Moto Guzzi V85
« Reply #35 on: March 18, 2018, 09:00:52 pm »
I will just leave this here ... and I quote from above link 8)

"Moto Guzzi has come full circle. After apeing the BMW G/S with their half-baked but charming TT, they are now making a bloated faux-enduro tourer aimed squarely at stealing market share from that caricature of an off-roader that is the R1200GS. Long gone are the weird V-twin powered oversized enduros that could be coaxed into traversing the globe or running the Dakar: today Guzzi has joined the leagues of BMW knockoffs pandering to middle-aged riders with marketing-driven dreams of globe-conquering go-anywhere adventures in their minds - and hernia-inducing tipovers in the Starbucks parking lot in their reality. Moto Guzzi's previous attempts at off-roaders were the best kind of unholy abominations that have been forgotten in the rush to build the biggest two-wheeled equivalent of a sport utility vehicle that can turn a profit. The TT, NTX and Quota will remain obscure skeletons in the Piaggio corporate closet, relics of an era when Moto Guzzi was still weird enough to be interesting and dumb enough to be daring, and were happy to leave the dull profit chasing to the Japanese and German bean counters."

So what. I still think it looks stunning, and will buy it
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Re: Moto Guzzi V85
« Reply #36 on: March 18, 2018, 09:01:26 pm »
I have had a few different bikes over a period of 40 years and the Stelvio is by far the best suitable to my present needs. I think it is stupid for a 65 plus person to do serious technical offroad on a heavy DS bike, but on any other road it is by far the best bike I have ever ridden. It is a bike with soul, I can't describe it any other way. It is old school but modern, without too much modern electronics. No riding modes, but ABS and traction control. I love this bike as no other, now on 30 000 plus km and will buy that V 85, even if I have to sell every other bike I have, except the Stelvio!
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Re: Moto Guzzi V85
« Reply #37 on: March 19, 2018, 10:23:47 am »
Thing is this, like with any of my bikes... I'm going to buy it with my money and ride it. Who gives a shit what any of you think  :lamer:
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« Reply #38 on: March 19, 2018, 11:15:56 am »
Thing is this, like with any of my bikes... I'm going to buy it with my money and ride it. Who gives a shit what any of you think  :lamer:

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Re: Moto Guzzi V85
« Reply #39 on: March 19, 2018, 11:32:13 am »
Thing is this, like with any of my bikes... I'm going to buy it with my money and ride it. Who gives a shit what any of you think  :lamer:

True Story.  :peepwall:

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