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Re: Army - Sayings -S Goed - The Audi Murphy Take.
« Reply #80 on: April 04, 2018, 02:29:06 pm »
 :imaposer: :imaposer: good contribution!  :thumleft:
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Re: Army - Sayings -S Goed - The Audi Murphy Take.
« Reply #81 on: April 04, 2018, 02:56:04 pm »
This is not my thread or about me. Admin created it by coping out bits of the other thread as we were not sticking to the general theme that the Apartheid Army was the best thing ever. Obviously not all believe that, and some need to see the funny side of the times, however if you even hint at not being pro army you will be viciously attacked and judged by neo-nazi storeman/drivers who think they were full on Recce.  My opinion is that  General Maxpoes Fellon  should have gone to prison with Eugene deKock. Those that continue to push for, and glorify those days are naive and sad. As one real Recce said to me recently  "We were conned, I would/will never fight for politics or a cause again, only money".

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My word!  If you can make that up and sell it for the truth, one can only wonder ow you would twist something not easily checked, such as the urban legends you have been selling for fact here.   :peepwall: :pot:
Thebear.. So your are obviously one of those fascists who feel it is necessary to  continue defending the Apartheid Army by calling those who disagree  liars, rapists and criminals. You have no other defence. Some, are trying to make sense of it all, put the past behind and find some healing. The cowards continue to live in denial and continue to justify the Apartheid Army,  missing out on a rich,  warm and rewarding life by remaining in their rose-tinted Laager.

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Ahhh, that makes me all fuzzy inside  :imaposer: :imaposer:

Well those same GV's are feeling very sorry for themselves on some of the other threads on this forum, You are only allowed to be a victim if it suites their agenda !!  :peepwall: :peepwall:
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Re: Army - Sayings -S Goed - The Audi Murphy Take.
« Reply #82 on: April 04, 2018, 03:20:26 pm »
This is not my thread or about me. Admin created it by coping out bits of the other thread as we were not sticking to the general theme that the Apartheid Army was the best thing ever. Obviously not all believe that, and some need to see the funny side of the times, however if you even hint at not being pro army you will be viciously attacked and judged by neo-nazi storeman/drivers who think they were full on Recce.  My opinion is that  General Maxpoes Fellon  should have gone to prison with Eugene deKock. Those that continue to push for, and glorify those days are naive and sad. As one real Recce said to me recently  "We were conned, I would/will never fight for politics or a cause again, only money".

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My word!  If you can make that up and sell it for the truth, one can only wonder ow you would twist something not easily checked, such as the urban legends you have been selling for fact here.   :peepwall: :pot:
Thebear.. So your are obviously one of those fascists who feel it is necessary to  continue defending the Apartheid Army by calling those who disagree  liars, rapists and criminals. You have no other defence. Some, are trying to make sense of it all, put the past behind and find some healing. The cowards continue to live in denial and continue to justify the Apartheid Army,  missing out on a rich,  warm and rewarding life by remaining in their rose-tinted Laager.

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Ahhh, that makes me all fuzzy inside  :imaposer: :imaposer:

Well those same GV's are feeling very sorry for themselves on some of the other threads on this forum, You are only allowed to be a victim if it suites their agenda !!  :peepwall: :peepwall:

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Re: Army - Sayings -S Goed - The Audi Murphy Take.
« Reply #83 on: April 04, 2018, 08:01:34 pm »
Some sensitive ego's here? And some idiotic comments from "you know who"? Can someone please employ him?
 

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Re: Army - Sayings -S Goed - The Audi Murphy Take.
« Reply #84 on: April 04, 2018, 08:35:09 pm »
gotta hand it to you  meneer OILspil , you really know how to spin a kakstorie , and get all these okes to fall for it

i rename you "trillspill for your efforts

how many unsuspecting maidens did you use your grensvegter storries on to get into their panties ?
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Re: Army - Sayings -S Goed - The Audi Murphy Take.
« Reply #85 on: April 04, 2018, 10:49:53 pm »
As one oke said in our bungalow the one night after the corporal ask him. "Wat de fok is fout met jou troep?"

His answer was priceless...  A real mastercard moment  :imaposer:

Ek is bietjie huilerig koperaal, he tjunes.
Corporal then asks him why .

He turns to the little fuck and says.
Ek het n harde piel want koperaal lyk soos n p0es en daar is niks wat ek daaraan kan doen nie.

Jasaas we ran and ran and ran and ran that night........  But it was worth it
That is brilliant, ducking funny. They never could control what we thought, or stop us doing the right thing.

So one Sunday I am parking off in the medic tent at Odangwa, we were having a few weeks off from patrol to rekit,  and I was helping out delivering babies etc, when a gaurd on duty tells me there is a very agitated local at the sickbay gate demanding someone help him. I tell him to go call a doctor/ tampax tiffy to help, nope no one is around/ interested so he eventually convinces me to go see. Turns out the man wants someone to go with him to help his wife who is in labour, somewhere out in the community, he is besides himself. I insist "Nope,  sorry we are not allowed out the base". But the poor man is desperate, in tears and pleading, his wife is too sick to move, we must go to her.

Anyway after trying to roundup someone in authority to help,  none one was interested, I  eventually decide, fuck you all,  grab my medic bag,  jump on the sickbay motorbike, put him on the back and head out past the gaurds, through the little pedestrian gate, and  into the community. Turns out his poor wife, sweating bricks in a Cooker,  was in labour with a breach birth, a life threatening condition for both mom and baby.
Well having managed to help  them both, the ground starts shaking, huge racket outside and the door flies open and about 10 troops burst into the tiny  hot space, and then promptly turn green when they see/smell all the shit and blood.   Seems just about the whole base has rocked up to save the "hijacked" troopie because the stupid guards had run  to tell the captain I had disappeared in the company of a local, probably a ter.
 Boy was I in Kak and I needed to get those guards back for their cowardice.  Several days later they are back on duty and I go out to them, "hey guys no bad feelings, you want some Pizza?" Yeah sure they say,  as  I present them with the inside of a placenta from another baby we had just delivered. It was great fun to watch them throw up and for the rest of my time there I continued to torment them with all sorts of "fast food".

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« Reply #86 on: April 05, 2018, 01:06:25 am »
So it's  time for me to call this thread quits and go Troll/BS somewhere  else.   There are however two final thoughts on the topic of the Apartheid army I would like to share.

The first is that propaganda and reality are not the same thing. An example of which was Beukus.
Beukes was a massive guy, a farmer's son from the Freestate. He was six foot square and had huge paddles instead of hands. These he would show us during  basics as he  bragged how he was going to  kill black people, not the term he used,  with his bare hands. And we all believed him, no doubt about it.
 Long story short, after our first contact, everyone was called forward to bloody themselves and all did except a few of us,   and then here came Beukes, roaring through the wag n bitijie and suddenly  face to face with  his first dead person. He  stopped, looked and  his brain went pop. Reality was simply too much for him to handle, he was not a killer, no matter how hard his volk had tried to convince him that he was.  Beukes was sent home in extreme psychological distress.

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Re: Army - Sayings -S Goed - The Audi Murphy Take.
« Reply #87 on: April 05, 2018, 01:37:53 am »
The second and final thought is that no matter how full of fear and confusion you are, help will come if you stick  to your principles. I was helped through my fears and confusion from the most unexpected quarters.
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As you imagine I was not liked by some, especially  the NCO's who went out of their way to get me, even to get others to get me,  just because I stuck to my principles. That is how I ended up as an Ops medic. While doing basics in the infantry the loot realised I would never shoot anyone so sent me off to medics to protect me.

I remain most grateful to all the officers who overturned lots of my punishment, to all who covered for me and to my  fellow platoon members, and others,  who stood up to those sent to hurt me. Most times I did not know they cared until they did stand up for me.

Let me end with this story. Sometimes we would shoot and slaughter one of those Portuguese cows left behind, a few times a kudu.  The cows were wild and the meat was tough as leather. The Bushman trackers  showed me many things, including how to make the most delicious tender soup from Portuguese cow using two Staaldaks,  while the Ous chewed away on their braaied leather. One time when I was really down, and we sat slurping on our stew,  watching all the chewing going on,  one of the Bushmen lent in to me and says "hulle kou net soos koeie". Hell I laughed and my spirit was lifted.
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« Reply #88 on: May 15, 2018, 07:25:23 am »
FFS Oilspil that is hectic. Which unit was that, recces?
No was in infantry, but our platoon was a specialised unit, Romeo Mike,  in vehicles, Buffels, and we followed up on all reported spoor, contacts, often working with/ supporting the more insane side of the army.  The infantry were also bad, summary execution of wounded enemy, destroying Kraals and homesteads for no reason, stealing from and abusing the local population, collecting ears, on and on. Also as an Ops medic I was dragged off  by the insane to treat the wounded in the field. Oh and we were not the best army, remember the Cubans gave us a snot klap, even with the Americans supporting us,   later in 1989, which resulted in eventual  peace negotiations and the release of Mandela.  It was all bullshit and lies, I remember sitting deep in Angola listening to PW wave his finger and say "I categorically deny we have troops in Angola.  What a coward. Even Afrikaans youth were traumatised by it all, I know I sent one poor guy back home to the states in a catatonic state of stress. Sorry for the PSTD dump, lots of good people on both sides lost their lives for nothing.

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Lotsa gaps in your story, Captain Caprivi.

Smells like grade A bullshit. You hit all the bullet points, starting with "nazi" in the first sentence. You recycle every single cliche about not just the SADF but all of society in those days. However, YOU are the one who comes out with a clean conscience, YOU are the one who "stuck to his principles and was therefore hated by the corporals", YOU  had people "sent to hurt you"...from where? My, you must have been important hey. Mandela-esque, a true threat to the Apartheid State :imaposer:

Let's dig into detail a little, shall we? 

So - you were infantry, then was "saved" by unknown benefactors, sent to the medics  - ie. the SAMC and no longer SAIC - then you ended up BACK in the infantry, at a Romeo Mike unit with Bushman trackers, Casspirs and Buffels that did deep penetration into Angola? Somewhere along the way you became a corporal, lost your rank and regained it?

First - it wasn't the SANDF  :lol8:

Second - ops medics were NOT infantrymen, they were SAMC troops who were attached to other SAIC or Armour or whatever units after medic training. I've known a  few. One had a Honoris Crux, and didn't tell fantastical stories ....like yours  :imaposer:

RM, Romeo Mike, "reaksie mag" in the army was 101 Bn, which is what you describe. The army saw how successful Koevoet was and copied their doctrine with 101, which was a SWATF unit. How did you go from SAI to SAMC to SWATF? That's an awful lot of job-hopping between different corps, you know.

So were you riding in Buffels or Casspirs?

So, you had bushman trackers? Bullshit. No unit except 31 and 203, the two bushman battallions, had bushman trackers. 101 Bn had local Ovambo's because it was one of the Ovambo battallions. Koevoet had mostly Ovambos too, but also Angolans and others. SWASPES trackers were attached to various units as needed.

So now we're up to.............you were an ops medic infantryman  - pardon me, twice-corporal - in 101 Bn the army's RM unit copied from SWAPOL, and you had Bushman trackers, eating Portuguese cows in what? 1984? The Portuguese population fled Angola in 1975, hero of the day. How do cattle stay "portuguese" for 8 or 9 years in rural Africa? Hell - how do ANY cattle SURVIVE for that long in a war zone in Africa?  :imaposer:

Also, you wore and carried staaldaks in Angola as a RM platoon?  :imaposer:

The huge 6 foot racist afrikaner farm boy from the Free state who lost his tiny mind the first time he saw a dead muntu. Right off an ECC leaflet.  :lol8:

You must have been very special heroes  - or know someone up the food chain - to get a FEW WEEKS OFF in Ondangwa between patrols, hey?   :lol8:

"Sickbay motorcycle"? Care to explain that?

Feeding your hated  "platoon mates" placenta pizza?  They would have buried you in the Ovamboland sand after the first hilarious event, but they kept falling for the trick....must have been a buncha dumb boere from the Free State I assume?  But........101 Bn was staffed by OVAMBOS, only the leader group were white...did you feed a bunch of Ovambos baby bits for months afterwards amd laugh at them ? THEY would have dismembered you on the spot.   :lol8:

"R4 rusted shut" not bloody likely, in a few weeks of basics unless you threw it in the sea every night  :imaposer:

On and on..................

Funny thing, a few years ago I collected about 50 okes' stories for a future book. One was my brother's best friend who jumped at Cassinga. Another was one of  the 80 tankers who fought in the Olifant tanks at Cuito Canevale. 20 tanks x 4 crewmen = 80 in  the first rotation. Another was a medical officer dentist, who was an eyewtiness to the Buffel at Ruacana that was hit by a MiG-23 bomb in 1988. As senior officer present and a medical type, he was tasked with cleaning up the scene. Several others were parabats, several my old chums from SWASPES, a couple of pilots, a childhood friend who ended up in Koevoet by a circuitous route, a pencil pusher or two, my youngest brother the Tiffy officer after completing his Engineering degree, two or three 61 Mech okes who fought in Protea and Daisy, my middle brother who was a corporal in 203 Bn, my best mate from bike squad who was a PF officer and served in 31 Bn, SWASPES and Intelligence and so forth..

Point being, I've heard many lengthy SADF stories from a wide variety of ex-soldiers, several of whom I lived in the bush with so I know their stories are true. It all passed the smell test, not like the stories in "Unpopular War" that start with "....I was sitting in the pub at Ondangwa one evening and this medic next to me told me how the recces swam underwater down the river bla-di-bla-bla and one was attacked by a crocodile...."...........that's a true story btw, but the female journalist author, who didn't know a R4 from a G-5, thought that a THIRD-hand (at least) story was accurate enough to publish as THE TRUTH. . Another GV told of how he changed the 40 round magazine on his R4......the devil is in the detail.

You also deployed the standard reply, if you don't think apartheid army........racist conditioning.......brutal corporals........blappa blappa bleep but I maintained my principles, good person that I am.........you're an apologist and fascist and racist living in the past.

Thorough type you, if nothing else. You didnt miss ONE cliche or slur that I'm familiar with  :imaposer:

I'm calling bullshit on your entire story, chum. You actually sound a little unhinged, best not get into the Cane and Sprite too deep, you might just step over that thin line of rational behaviour and do someone harm. Keep it in your house if you do, and do it to yourself, OK?

Heeeeey - you didn't get PKed in a pub called PJ's in Allens Nek on the West Rand about 8 years ago by a tall drunk cnut, for telling everybody you're a recce, did you?  We know each other! Post a photo of your face, will you? 

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Re: Army - Sayings -S Goed - The Audi Murphy Take.
« Reply #89 on: May 15, 2018, 05:56:26 pm »
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« Reply #90 on: May 15, 2018, 09:54:18 pm »
He does get the point across. >:D
 

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« Reply #91 on: May 15, 2018, 10:54:11 pm »
Details, details.....best have them straight and true, or they will bite you......... :lol8:
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« Reply #92 on: May 15, 2018, 11:13:00 pm »
Details, details.....best have them straight and true, or they will bite you......... :lol8:

Poetry as well?  :laughing4: :laughing4: :laughing4:
 

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« Reply #93 on: May 16, 2018, 01:54:35 am »
FFS Oilspil that is hectic. Which unit was that, recces?
No was in infantry, but our platoon was a specialised unit, Romeo Mike,  in vehicles, Buffels, and we followed up on all reported spoor, contacts, often working with/ supporting the more insane side of the army.  The infantry were also bad, summary execution of wounded enemy, destroying Kraals and homesteads for no reason, stealing from and abusing the local population, collecting ears, on and on. Also as an Ops medic I was dragged off  by the insane to treat the wounded in the field. Oh and we were not the best army, remember the Cubans gave us a snot klap, even with the Americans supporting us,   later in 1989, which resulted in eventual  peace negotiations and the release of Mandela.  It was all bullshit and lies, I remember sitting deep in Angola listening to PW wave his finger and say "I categorically deny we have troops in Angola.  What a coward. Even Afrikaans youth were traumatised by it all, I know I sent one poor guy back home to the states in a catatonic state of stress. Sorry for the PSTD dump, lots of good people on both sides lost their lives for nothing.

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Lotsa gaps in your story, Captain Caprivi.

Smells like grade A bullshit. You hit all the bullet points, starting with "nazi" in the first sentence. You recycle every single cliche about not just the SADF but all of society in those days. However, YOU are the one who comes out with a clean conscience, YOU are the one who "stuck to his principles and was therefore hated by the corporals", YOU  had people "sent to hurt you"...from where? My, you must have been important hey. Mandela-esque, a true threat to the Apartheid State :imaposer:

Let's dig into detail a little, shall we? 

So - you were infantry, then was "saved" by unknown benefactors, sent to the medics  - ie. the SAMC and no longer SAIC - then you ended up BACK in the infantry, at a Romeo Mike unit with Bushman trackers, Casspirs and Buffels that did deep penetration into Angola? Somewhere along the way you became a corporal, lost your rank and regained it?

First - it wasn't the SANDF  :lol8:

Second - ops medics were NOT infantrymen, they were SAMC troops who were attached to other SAIC or Armour or whatever units after medic training. I've known a  few. One had a Honoris Crux, and didn't tell fantastical stories ....like yours  :imaposer:

RM, Romeo Mike, "reaksie mag" in the army was 101 Bn, which is what you describe. The army saw how successful Koevoet was and copied their doctrine with 101, which was a SWATF unit. How did you go from SAI to SAMC to SWATF? That's an awful lot of job-hopping between different corps, you know.

So were you riding in Buffels or Casspirs?

So, you had bushman trackers? Bullshit. No unit except 31 and 203, the two bushman battallions, had bushman trackers. 101 Bn had local Ovambo's because it was one of the Ovambo battallions. Koevoet had mostly Ovambos too, but also Angolans and others. SWASPES trackers were attached to various units as needed.

So now we're up to.............you were an ops medic infantryman  - pardon me, twice-corporal - in 101 Bn the army's RM unit copied from SWAPOL, and you had Bushman trackers, eating Portuguese cows in what? 1984? The Portuguese population fled Angola in 1975, hero of the day. How do cattle stay "portuguese" for 8 or 9 years in rural Africa? Hell - how do ANY cattle SURVIVE for that long in a war zone in Africa?  :imaposer:

Also, you wore and carried staaldaks in Angola as a RM platoon?  :imaposer:

The huge 6 foot racist afrikaner farm boy from the Free state who lost his tiny mind the first time he saw a dead muntu. Right off an ECC leaflet.  :lol8:

You must have been very special heroes  - or know someone up the food chain - to get a FEW WEEKS OFF in Ondangwa between patrols, hey?   :lol8:

"Sickbay motorcycle"? Care to explain that?

Feeding your hated  "platoon mates" placenta pizza?  They would have buried you in the Ovamboland sand after the first hilarious event, but they kept falling for the trick....must have been a buncha dumb boere from the Free State I assume?  But........101 Bn was staffed by OVAMBOS, only the leader group were white...did you feed a bunch of Ovambos baby bits for months afterwards amd laugh at them ? THEY would have dismembered you on the spot.   :lol8:

"R4 rusted shut" not bloody likely, in a few weeks of basics unless you threw it in the sea every night  :imaposer:

On and on..................

Funny thing, a few years ago I collected about 50 okes' stories for a future book. One was my brother's best friend who jumped at Cassinga. Another was one of  the 80 tankers who fought in the Olifant tanks at Cuito Canevale. 20 tanks x 4 crewmen = 80 in  the first rotation. Another was a medical officer dentist, who was an eyewtiness to the Buffel at Ruacana that was hit by a MiG-23 bomb in 1988. As senior officer present and a medical type, he was tasked with cleaning up the scene. Several others were parabats, several my old chums from SWASPES, a couple of pilots, a childhood friend who ended up in Koevoet by a circuitous route, a pencil pusher or two, my youngest brother the Tiffy officer after completing his Engineering degree, two or three 61 Mech okes who fought in Protea and Daisy, my middle brother who was a corporal in 203 Bn, my best mate from bike squad who was a PF officer and served in 31 Bn, SWASPES and Intelligence and so forth..

Point being, I've heard many lengthy SADF stories from a wide variety of ex-soldiers, several of whom I lived in the bush with so I know their stories are true. It all passed the smell test, not like the stories in "Unpopular War" that start with "....I was sitting in the pub at Ondangwa one evening and this medic next to me told me how the recces swam underwater down the river bla-di-bla-bla and one was attacked by a crocodile...."...........that's a true story btw, but the female journalist author, who didn't know a R4 from a G-5, thought that a THIRD-hand (at least) story was accurate enough to publish as THE TRUTH. . Another GV told of how he changed the 40 round magazine on his R4......the devil is in the detail.

You also deployed the standard reply, if you don't think apartheid army........racist conditioning.......brutal corporals........blappa blappa bleep but I maintained my principles, good person that I am.........you're an apologist and fascist and racist living in the past.

Thorough type you, if nothing else. You didnt miss ONE cliche or slur that I'm familiar with  :imaposer:

I'm calling bullshit on your entire story, chum. You actually sound a little unhinged, best not get into the Cane and Sprite too deep, you might just step over that thin line of rational behaviour and do someone harm. Keep it in your house if you do, and do it to yourself, OK?

Heeeeey - you didn't get PKed in a pub called PJ's in Allens Nek on the West Rand about 8 years ago by a tall drunk cnut, for telling everybody you're a recce, did you?  We know each other! Post a photo of your face, will you? 

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I think the pokken foes just kakked in his brown overall and ran back to his mommy  :biggrin:


Nothing riles me more than people that bullshit about their past and claim to be "captain caprivi" (yes, captain with a small "c", just like his dick  :imaposer:

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« Reply #94 on: May 16, 2018, 07:58:50 am »
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« Reply #95 on: May 17, 2018, 03:41:00 pm »
FFS Oilspil that is hectic. Which unit was that, recces?
No was in infantry, but our platoon was a specialised unit, Romeo Mike,  in vehicles, Buffels, and we followed up on all reported spoor, contacts, often working with/ supporting the more insane side of the army.  The infantry were also bad, summary execution of wounded enemy, destroying Kraals and homesteads for no reason, stealing from and abusing the local population, collecting ears, on and on. Also as an Ops medic I was dragged off  by the insane to treat the wounded in the field. Oh and we were not the best army, remember the Cubans gave us a snot klap, even with the Americans supporting us,   later in 1989, which resulted in eventual  peace negotiations and the release of Mandela.  It was all bullshit and lies, I remember sitting deep in Angola listening to PW wave his finger and say "I categorically deny we have troops in Angola.  What a coward. Even Afrikaans youth were traumatised by it all, I know I sent one poor guy back home to the states in a catatonic state of stress. Sorry for the PSTD dump, lots of good people on both sides lost their lives for nothing.

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Lotsa gaps in your story, Captain Caprivi.

Smells like grade A bullshit. You hit all the bullet points, starting with "nazi" in the first sentence. You recycle every single cliche about not just the SADF but all of society in those days. However, YOU are the one who comes out with a clean conscience, YOU are the one who "stuck to his principles and was therefore hated by the corporals", YOU  had people "sent to hurt you"...from where? My, you must have been important hey. Mandela-esque, a true threat to the Apartheid State :imaposer:

Let's dig into detail a little, shall we? 

So - you were infantry, then was "saved" by unknown benefactors, sent to the medics  - ie. the SAMC and no longer SAIC - then you ended up BACK in the infantry, at a Romeo Mike unit with Bushman trackers, Casspirs and Buffels that did deep penetration into Angola? Somewhere along the way you became a corporal, lost your rank and regained it?

First - it wasn't the SANDF  :lol8:

Second - ops medics were NOT infantrymen, they were SAMC troops who were attached to other SAIC or Armour or whatever units after medic training. I've known a  few. One had a Honoris Crux, and didn't tell fantastical stories ....like yours  :imaposer:

RM, Romeo Mike, "reaksie mag" in the army was 101 Bn, which is what you describe. The army saw how successful Koevoet was and copied their doctrine with 101, which was a SWATF unit. How did you go from SAI to SAMC to SWATF? That's an awful lot of job-hopping between different corps, you know.

So were you riding in Buffels or Casspirs?

So, you had bushman trackers? Bullshit. No unit except 31 and 203, the two bushman battallions, had bushman trackers. 101 Bn had local Ovambo's because it was one of the Ovambo battallions. Koevoet had mostly Ovambos too, but also Angolans and others. SWASPES trackers were attached to various units as needed.

So now we're up to.............you were an ops medic infantryman  - pardon me, twice-corporal - in 101 Bn the army's RM unit copied from SWAPOL, and you had Bushman trackers, eating Portuguese cows in what? 1984? The Portuguese population fled Angola in 1975, hero of the day. How do cattle stay "portuguese" for 8 or 9 years in rural Africa? Hell - how do ANY cattle SURVIVE for that long in a war zone in Africa?  :imaposer:

Also, you wore and carried staaldaks in Angola as a RM platoon?  :imaposer:

The huge 6 foot racist afrikaner farm boy from the Free state who lost his tiny mind the first time he saw a dead muntu. Right off an ECC leaflet.  :lol8:

You must have been very special heroes  - or know someone up the food chain - to get a FEW WEEKS OFF in Ondangwa between patrols, hey?   :lol8:

"Sickbay motorcycle"? Care to explain that?

Feeding your hated  "platoon mates" placenta pizza?  They would have buried you in the Ovamboland sand after the first hilarious event, but they kept falling for the trick....must have been a buncha dumb boere from the Free State I assume?  But........101 Bn was staffed by OVAMBOS, only the leader group were white...did you feed a bunch of Ovambos baby bits for months afterwards amd laugh at them ? THEY would have dismembered you on the spot.   :lol8:

"R4 rusted shut" not bloody likely, in a few weeks of basics unless you threw it in the sea every night  :imaposer:

On and on..................

Funny thing, a few years ago I collected about 50 okes' stories for a future book. One was my brother's best friend who jumped at Cassinga. Another was one of  the 80 tankers who fought in the Olifant tanks at Cuito Canevale. 20 tanks x 4 crewmen = 80 in  the first rotation. Another was a medical officer dentist, who was an eyewtiness to the Buffel at Ruacana that was hit by a MiG-23 bomb in 1988. As senior officer present and a medical type, he was tasked with cleaning up the scene. Several others were parabats, several my old chums from SWASPES, a couple of pilots, a childhood friend who ended up in Koevoet by a circuitous route, a pencil pusher or two, my youngest brother the Tiffy officer after completing his Engineering degree, two or three 61 Mech okes who fought in Protea and Daisy, my middle brother who was a corporal in 203 Bn, my best mate from bike squad who was a PF officer and served in 31 Bn, SWASPES and Intelligence and so forth..

Point being, I've heard many lengthy SADF stories from a wide variety of ex-soldiers, several of whom I lived in the bush with so I know their stories are true. It all passed the smell test, not like the stories in "Unpopular War" that start with "....I was sitting in the pub at Ondangwa one evening and this medic next to me told me how the recces swam underwater down the river bla-di-bla-bla and one was attacked by a crocodile...."...........that's a true story btw, but the female journalist author, who didn't know a R4 from a G-5, thought that a THIRD-hand (at least) story was accurate enough to publish as THE TRUTH. . Another GV told of how he changed the 40 round magazine on his R4......the devil is in the detail.

You also deployed the standard reply, if you don't think apartheid army........racist conditioning.......brutal corporals........blappa blappa bleep but I maintained my principles, good person that I am.........you're an apologist and fascist and racist living in the past.

Thorough type you, if nothing else. You didnt miss ONE cliche or slur that I'm familiar with  :imaposer:

I'm calling bullshit on your entire story, chum. You actually sound a little unhinged, best not get into the Cane and Sprite too deep, you might just step over that thin line of rational behaviour and do someone harm. Keep it in your house if you do, and do it to yourself, OK?

Heeeeey - you didn't get PKed in a pub called PJ's in Allens Nek on the West Rand about 8 years ago by a tall drunk cnut, for telling everybody you're a recce, did you?  We know each other! Post a photo of your face, will you? 

 :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:

Good for you....hope you feel better now that you have got that all off your chest.   Unfortunately it is obvious to me that, like Trump,  you think that by throwing out BS as fact you actually prove a point, you don't, all it proves is that , like many supporters of those time, you actually have no first hand experience of the Army in the 1980's.     I really don't give a shit if you believe what I have said or not and I am not intimidated by your  dumb comments,  threats and name calling.     The intention of my post was not to speak to dumb fucks who want to suck on the tit of Apartheid,  nor to argue the point with those who live in denial, but to show that conscription was a brutal policy for many who wanted no part it and that some of us,  to varying degrees, managed to stand up a little against it as best we could .   Can I convince you of the facts in what I said,  sure if  I go to the trouble of getting my army record and sending it to you.  Do I care to, no.   It is important however that an alternative experience and view is put up to counter, on forums such as these, the  embarrassing support such as yours  that continues to be showered onto those times.   How you cannot be ashamed about the crimes against humanity that were perpetrated, about what happened and actively strive to put a glorious shine on it is not only sad, but sick. 
 

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Re: Army - Sayings -S Goed - The Audi Murphy Take.
« Reply #96 on: May 17, 2018, 04:45:09 pm »
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How you cannot be ashamed about the crimes against humanity that were perpetrated, about what happened and actively strive to put a glorious shine on it is not only sad, but sick.

What are you referring to here? The crime against humanity of what the thousands of young white conscript boys had to go through? What they had to endure, forfeit and do, or what crime against humanity do you refer to?
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« Reply #97 on: May 17, 2018, 05:51:39 pm »
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How you cannot be ashamed about the crimes against humanity that were perpetrated, about what happened and actively strive to put a glorious shine on it is not only sad, but sick.

What are you referring to here? The crime against humanity of what the thousands of young white conscript boys had to go through? What they had to endure, forfeit and do, or what crime against humanity do you refer to?
The whole thing, conscription and the apartheid war, what they did, was a crime against humanity. Apartheid was a crime against humanity.

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Re: Army - Sayings -S Goed - The Audi Murphy Take.
« Reply #98 on: May 17, 2018, 06:03:30 pm »
Nah......I don't think so.
I thoroughly enjoyed it. It is a question of attitude and patriotism. I grew up as the son of a PF senior officer. My whole family were PF's mind you. I couldn't wait to "tree aan". Kadette and all that went with it shaped us. For the better I proclaim.

Doesn't matter if you were a pen pusher or a recce. Each had a indismissable role to play in the war machine. One I was proud to be part of. The SADF used to be the best on the continent.

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Re: Army - Sayings -S Goed - The Audi Murphy Take.
« Reply #99 on: May 17, 2018, 06:08:28 pm »
I agree Exploratio. Also not phased by this "crime against humanity."
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