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Re: Husqvarna 701 - any good?
« Reply #20 on: April 04, 2018, 05:30:11 pm »
I have just gone one tooth down in the front to make tricky stuff slightly easier.  I don't bother to change it for longer trips but on long trips I travel quite slowly when I am on my own (100-105).  But if everyone else tootles along at 140-ish then it is no issue either and I have the 2016.  The 2017-18 has another 1000 RPM on top of it.

Now, if the gear ratios really bother you and you have a bit of spare cash (R 37,000 ex UK) then this is the upgrade you need to make and you will have bragging rights in these discussions -
http://www.novaracing.co.uk/ProductKTM690WRGearset.html

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A full wide ratio gearset for the KTM 690 with undercut dogs for fast, accurate gear changes and positive retention.

These gears transform the bike into a truly go anywhere machine, with a low 1st gear to tackle the steepest terrain, and a tall top to keep the revs down on the open road!

We supply the fully assembled input and output shafts ready to fit.

Following feedback from our long term test rider Lyndon Poskitt (races-to-places), we made a slight change to 1st and 6th gears and improved engagement design to give slick shifting in the harshest conditions.
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Yo yo yo......the accessory to beat all accessories......note to self...sell 701 and buy this accessory.......
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Re: Husqvarna 701 - any good?
« Reply #21 on: April 04, 2018, 05:37:50 pm »
Yo yo yo......the accessory to beat all accessories......note to self...sell 701 and buy this accessory.......

Yes, that is the snag in this scheme.  And when you try to sell it someone will tell you that this reduces the value of the bike.
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Re: Husqvarna 701 - any good?
« Reply #22 on: April 04, 2018, 05:44:35 pm »
 :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
i don't think i will ever want to sell this bike
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Re: Husqvarna 701 - any good?
« Reply #23 on: April 04, 2018, 10:20:26 pm »
Both Buff and Amsterdam (thx, nice link indeed although rather pricey) confirm what I was afraid for: the gear ratios aren't what they should be!
No doubt they'll be fine for SMing or Duke-ing but not really for "Enduro".... hence Husky themselves putting this bike into a one-only-bike class "Dual Sport", refer http://www.husqvarna-motorcycles.com/za/enduro/
How difficult can it be for Husqvarna to put in the correct gears?
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Re: Husqvarna 701 - any good?
« Reply #24 on: April 05, 2018, 09:15:00 am »
Neither the 690 or 701 will ever be an "enduro" bike, not in the true sense of the word anyway. Don't get hung up on that, the bike was never intended to compete with the 300 2T's.

I have however raced the 3 day Tankwa X-Country with my 690 with stock sprockets without any hassles... and many other riders have raced Offroads all over the country on them without issues. This bike is capable of far more than me... and you for that matter.
That's not meant as an insult, it's the reality of this beast. I've only ever seen 2 guys race a 690 to its full potential and that's @GJ  and Kobie van Breda and both are ex-SA offroad champions :thumleft:
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Re: Husqvarna 701 - any good?
« Reply #25 on: April 05, 2018, 01:07:08 pm »
... and you for that matter.

Absolutely!
That's why I need that slow first - to be able to enjoy myself of course, because not getting over/through there aint fun.
Perhaps I should try to get a leg over it at some stage.... and now we wait for him who spots a pun  :P
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Re: Husqvarna 701 - any good?
« Reply #26 on: April 05, 2018, 02:47:32 pm »
I picked up my 2018 701 yesterday. It is awesome.  :ricky:

No rev counter for exact revs, but that bike will ride at 140kph the whole day. Vibrations at 120/130kph are less than at 100kph for me. So ideal cruising speed. I have not played at very slow speeds in first gear yet, but like Dwerg mentioned, the clutch is as light as a feather.
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Re: Husqvarna 701 - any good?
« Reply #27 on: April 05, 2018, 02:48:50 pm »
some pics
twin air filter has replaced the k+n setup from rade for the aux tank
am getting 25k's to the litre so that now totals +/- 19 litres = 475km range
the wings exhaust was the first thing I did...the oem zorst was very very hot...
the rade screen includes the tower which allowed me to fix my old touratech gps mount....that thing works well...also brings bikes dash up and into view.....
the seat concepts is just the cover...20mm higher and it makes a huge difference to my disappearing middle aged rump....did a 3 hour stint on the old seat....it was kak...this one no issues
the AST bashplate ordered directly from the maker in france....great service....good price.....8mm plastic and fits perfectly...as tough as nails
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Did you remap the ecu after fitting the Rade tank and air filter? Where is the best place to have this done?
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Re: Husqvarna 701 - any good?
« Reply #28 on: April 05, 2018, 02:59:02 pm »
no....have not done anything to it......did a lot of research....no mention of remapping
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Re: Husqvarna 701 - any good?
« Reply #29 on: April 05, 2018, 02:59:45 pm »
I picked up my 2018 701 yesterday. It is awesome.  :ricky:

No rev counter for exact revs, but that bike will ride at 140kph the whole day. Vibrations at 120/130kph are less than at 100kph for me. So ideal cruising speed. I have not played at very slow speeds in first gear yet, but like Dwerg mentioned, the clutch is as light as a feather.

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Re: Husqvarna 701 - any good?
« Reply #30 on: April 05, 2018, 03:15:14 pm »
no....have not done anything to it......did a lot of research....no mention of remapping

From what I have read, the bike runs a bit lean with the more "open" twin foam air filter and requires benefits from a remap. This remap is included in the acrapovic kit with the different airbox. The mechanic at Bikers warehouse was not aware, but on the facebook group many have recommended the Akra map...
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Re: Husqvarna 701 - any good?
« Reply #31 on: April 05, 2018, 04:16:44 pm »
cool...will check that out and ask the dealer here about it...
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Re: Husqvarna 701 - any good?
« Reply #32 on: April 05, 2018, 04:54:39 pm »
Acra map was for the pre 2014 690s. After that bikes couldn’t be mapped. The 15 minute idle is supposed to sort the mapping out


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Re: Husqvarna 701 - any good?
« Reply #33 on: April 06, 2018, 07:44:40 am »
Acra map was for the pre 2014 690s. After that bikes couldn’t be mapped. The 15 minute idle is supposed to sort the mapping out


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Not sure about that, I have a 2014 690 that has been remapped with the akro/evo mapping. It definitely makes a difference but only really needed if you have the Evo air box cover as well. In the case of the twin air filter it would definitely be a good idea.
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Re: Husqvarna 701 - any good?
« Reply #34 on: April 06, 2018, 08:02:30 am »
That's just what I got off ADVRider. ECU was apparently changed on 2014 models. May have just been at that time and something came along after. Mine has had Akra and Evo box since day 1. Went back to stock pipe a while ago though
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Re: Husqvarna 701 - any good?
« Reply #35 on: April 06, 2018, 09:05:19 am »
should I do the 15min process or not ?
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« Reply #36 on: April 06, 2018, 10:10:42 am »
Crop Sprang,

Pls explain what that is, a 15min thing?
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Re: Husqvarna 701 - any good?
« Reply #37 on: April 06, 2018, 10:24:41 am »
Crop Sprang,

Pls explain what that is, a 15min thing?

From the 690 index found here

"Problem: The FI system is prone to a lack of smoothness. Sometimes this is due to a lack of calibration or failure to re-calibrate after adjustments.
Fix: Anytime there are changes to the exhaust/intake/engine management systems, the bike benefits from a 15 min idle and a throttle adjustment.

The 15 minutes idle involves letting the bike idle for 15 minutes without ANY throttle input. After 15 minutes, turn off with key.

The throttle adjustment involves key'ing on, slowly opening throttle to full and slowly coming back to closed, then turn off with key.

For many people this has made things much better - it's not a panacea but the improvements can be significant.
Credit Bartron @ Advrider"
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Re: Husqvarna 701 - any good?
« Reply #38 on: April 06, 2018, 10:51:05 am »
... and you for that matter.

Absolutely!
That's why I need that slow first - to be able to enjoy myself of course, because not getting over/through there aint fun.
Perhaps I should try to get a leg over it at some stage.... and now we wait for him who spots a pun  :P

BuRP - I am in the happy hacker category myself.  Just dropping one tooth in the front helps a lot with the low speed stuff.  I have ridden some really gnarly uphill stuff with luggage on (both on my KTM 690 2014 and the Husky 701 2016).  The clutch has coped just fine.  And some of those rides definitely required quite a bit of clutch use.  Don't be too wary of it.  Try the bike and see if it is for you.
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Re: Husqvarna 701 - any good?
« Reply #39 on: April 06, 2018, 10:51:29 am »
Crop Sprang,

Pls explain what that is, a 15min thing?

From the 690 index found here

"Problem: The FI system is prone to a lack of smoothness. Sometimes this is due to a lack of calibration or failure to re-calibrate after adjustments.
Fix: Anytime there are changes to the exhaust/intake/engine management systems, the bike benefits from a 15 min idle and a throttle adjustment.

The 15 minutes idle involves letting the bike idle for 15 minutes without ANY throttle input. After 15 minutes, turn off with key.

The throttle adjustment involves key'ing on, slowly opening throttle to full and slowly coming back to closed, then turn off with key.

For many people this has made things much better - it's not a panacea but the improvements can be significant.
Credit Bartron @ Advrider"


Thanks Dwerg, will test this after installing the rade auxiliary tank and foam filters
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