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Re: Capie and Vaalie taken for a ride by dodgy Russian
« Reply #120 on: April 13, 2018, 09:01:56 am »
Ok so tell us, what punctured the tubliss tube.

While trying to avoid a Tubliss thread hijack just a quick question - have you tried Tyre Shield in the inner tube? (not during fitting but actually in the tube).

YES - and it does not work ... I think the inner volume of the tube is too little and the pressure too great

None of my Tubliss failures have been from punctures to the tube - they have all been tube failures - mostly the valves tearing out or splitting on seams

"all" - how many?

Please let us make this the last discussion on this ride report regarding Tubliss - for all other questions and answers please go here http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=223092.msg4039147;topicseen#msg4039147

in 3 years I have had 6 Tubliss inner tube failures - this is not a problem on a day ride when you are close to home but when you are miles away from nowhere then it is a big problem, especially if you don't have spare tubes with you

AFAIK Tubliss was originally developed for use on MX circuits - the benefit being that the ability to run such low pressures with resulting huge increase in traction was a major benefit and advantage ...but then you are on a closed course with help and spares not far away at the pits

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Re: Capie and Vaalie taken for a ride by dodgy Russian
« Reply #121 on: April 13, 2018, 09:23:03 am »
I have plenty of him ...but he threatened me at gunpoint and made me sign non disclosure agreement

Apparently all his ex wives and girlfriends are looking for him and so far he has been able to remain at large

I can neither confirm nor deny that these are picture of him
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Re: Capie and Vaalie taken for a ride by dodgy Russian
« Reply #122 on: April 13, 2018, 09:28:36 am »
Thanks for sharing...................think first pics on bike i have EVER seen :)

 
 

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Re: Capie and Vaalie taken for a ride by dodgy Russian
« Reply #123 on: April 13, 2018, 10:06:01 am »
Please go ask on tubliss thread opened so we don't pollute this one

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Re: Capie and Vaalie taken for a ride by dodgy Russian
« Reply #124 on: April 13, 2018, 11:32:51 am »
Please go ask on tubliss thread opened so we don't pollute this one

Yes Sir.
Chris & Martin I just saw a fb post of Ryan and Sarah (owners of Camp Syncro) that the North West had good rains the last few days. Hoarusib flowing strongly and roads around Kaoko Otavi looking like rivers.....

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Justin, I agree!
« Reply #125 on: April 13, 2018, 12:02:38 pm »
To ride solo you need to be comfortable and happy with your own company ...which Xpat is

You do need to have some mechanical skills and should at least be able to fix flat wheels ...which Xpat can (but maybe not first time)... .
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Justin! I think what we have here is a classic failure to communicate brought on by the internet and not enough beers.

I was hoping to tease and encourage Xpat. Tease him for puncturing his spare tube and encourage him by saying he has balls to do stuff himself. I don't know him well enough to do it properly, so I mealy-mouthed it a bit. The internet can do that; lead to poorly worded comments, in-depth rebuttals and then a rebuttal of the rebuttal. You came to his defense as a mate, good on you.

Now I must defend my own honour by puffing up my solo-riding cred:
HERE is a 7 month trip I did across Africa in 2004, much of it solo... I did it with no knowledge of anything and I was on a ghastly BMW! We did the Kunene River route and at that time it was waaaay over my head.
HERE is a short ride I did where I expound upon the value of solo riding.
HERE is 430km I did last week to TZ alone in which I got stuck in a riverbed and had to dig myself out.

Let's be mates! Have a look at some of the riding we get up to in Kenya and come visit! We should organize an exchange program even... an AirBNB for bikes maybe!

Xpat, on with the ride! Sorry for the mixup/hijack! I will now shut up.

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Re: Capie and Vaalie taken for a ride by dodgy Russian
« Reply #126 on: April 13, 2018, 02:13:28 pm »
No problem Osadabwa

We encourage all comments and abuse ...Xpat has thicker skin than rhino's arse
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Re: Capie and Vaalie taken for a ride by dodgy Russian
« Reply #127 on: April 13, 2018, 03:02:32 pm »
Day 5
(pictures in this episode can be viewed at better resolution here: https://flic.kr/s/aHsmdTcZH3)


Getting out of the tent in the morning still in the dark, I half hoped that bush fairies or Himba AA did a courtesy fix for me, but no luck. I checked the tube and had my doubts straight away as the patch didn’t seem to be set strongly enough. I blew the tube up and the corners started lifting, so I just ripped it off.



















I checked my sat phone and found message from Justin with detail patching instructions - I have sent him a message night before asking for advice. And sure enough, my downfall was not letting the glue dry enough before applying the patch.

So I patched the tube for the third time, this time making sure that glue was properly dry before applying the patch. I gave it a lot of time to set and then installed it in the tyre, and everything seemed to be good. So I broke down the camp, packed everything, geared up and set-off.

By now it was way past 10 o’clock. I was tempted to try find the riverbed shortcut one more time, but eventually decided against it. I was already blowing through our only planned rest day, and we still had good 7 - 8 days of pretty intense riding to do after the 4 we have just done. So I opted to rather take it easy and try to conserve - ideally even recover - some of the energy back. I turned back and back-tracked 20 or so km back to the junction where I parted with the other two, and followed D3701 all the way to Kunene.










Once there I decided to go for a bit or refreshment, turned right and headed down to Kunene river lodge about 5 km away for late breakfast/early lunch. I chilled at their wooden veranda overlooking Kunene river for well over 2 hours enjoying couple of tuna sandwiches, about 10 cokes and worst of all - wifi.

I had a little chat with the new lodge manager. It got slightly awkward, once he exclaimed with a bit of pride that he is a hunter first and foremost. I am no tree hugger, eat meat and have no problem with hunting for food, or to prevent overgrazing or some such, and obviously for self defence but I cannot wrap my head around trophy hunting. Unless it is fundamentally just for the two reasons I mentioned in the las sentence- which it probably mostly is so admittedly I do not have much leg to stand on here.

But for better or worse I do feel strong sympathy towards the desert elephants and other animals living this side of the world and do not like the idea of people shooting them basically for fun. I am not saying he did that, but I got suspicious when he started to question whether there is such a thing as ‘desert’ elephants, claiming they are all just ‘Etosha’ elephants, whatever that is. Now, I’m no biologist, and if you put a desert elephant next to a bushpig I may not be able tell the difference, but I have seen firsthand the differences in behaviour of elephants in Kaokoland and Damaraland riverbeds, and for the bushes of Botswana. Simple pass of a herd of elephant through bush in Botswana makes it look like Vietnamese jungle after an agent orange attack - more or less all trees and bushes destroyed. While here in the desert elephants take great care not to break a branch, but rather nibble at the leaves grooming them into a semblance of English garden, only nicer. They clearly understand that if they destroy the vegetation, they are toast. I’m not sure ‘non-desert’ elephants get that and that local riverbed vegetation would survive few passes of those. And there are so few of elephants adapted to this environment that I just don’t see a point in shooting them.

Now, I’m not implicating the manager in anything - he seemed decent enough person, and as far as I know he never shot anything around there. I’m just showing what a precious snowflake I am and how easily I get triggered by what may have been perfectly innocent comment (that and the fact that one or two elephants MaxThePanda & the gang encountered there got shot a week or so later). End of the sermon (fuck, and I call Justin a hippie…).

Here are few pictures from the lodge (none of them actually showing the lodge):










First pink dog I have ever seen. Manager's son found him on the side of the road already colored and adopted him. Cannot wrap my head around why would people color dogs, but the boy told me that Americans do that quite often. I doubt Americans brought their pink dog for safari though...




Eventually, way past 1pm it was time to rein in the gastro dude and hesitant animal rights activist and move on - otherwise I wouldn’t make Epupa before dark. So I had the last Coke for the road, geared up and set-off.

I have an ambivalent relationship to the dirt road between Swarbooisdrif and Epupa. On the one hand as far as Namibian dirt highways go, this is one of the best, with plenty of steep uphills and downhills and turns keeping one focused and entertained, and running through scenery of bizarrely colourful mountains to the south and palm trees flanked Kunene river to the north. But I still remember how much more fun it was to navigate the old double track alternating between the mountains and the river. 90 km to Epupa now takes 1.5 - 2 hours of ride/drive, while at that time only 4x4s applied and they took between 8 - 12 hours to get there (bikes about 3.5 - 4 hours on appropriate bike, on big SUV - if the rider was brave/stupid enough, more). Just for the old time sake, here is my video of riding the old track sometimes in 2012:




And here are few pictures I took this time:







Zebra hills from the other side:







When I came to that river I wanted to take through the zebra mountains day before (i.e. where I would have exited the mountains should I succeed), I took it up for km or two to see what it is like. It looked very doable running through a wide valley in the mountains, and there were even tracks of 4x4 or two who came to play there. Next time I'll make sure I have a time to investigate it properly:






















I arrived at Epupa Falls after 3pm and found the other two holed up in their chalet in the Epupa Falls lodge all sweaty in their undies and fast asleep. When I woke them up they made up some bullshit story about how they went for a walk looking for crocodiles in the morning, but I would bet they didn’t get their asses out of the bed since breakfast. They didn’t even bother to go and have a look at main attraction - Epupa Falls, which their chalet sat right on top of.













After I scolded them they grudgingly agreed to go and have a look before it gets too dark and I went to settle into the next chalet. When I laid down for a bit of my own shuteye, I’ve heard two 500s come to life. Granted, it is about 100 meters to the falls going around the next campsite and they were being under strict recovery regime, but I still - I found that a bit lazy.

I didn’t manage to fall asleep and once they came back I walked to the falls myself. There was  plenty of daylight left, but the sun was already low and the falls were in shade. Not ideal for pictures, but here is what I got:


































When I came back I went to fetch something from the bike when I heard sudden ‘pfffft’ and the rear went flat. Oh, for fuck’s sake - not this shit again! I wasn’t even pissed off because the tyre went flat, but because I believed that it was because of my sloppy patchwork.

It was too close to dinner, so I went to eat first and after dinner Justin and Bertie helped me to take the punctured tube out, and put Tubeliss back, this time with Justin’s spare inner Tubeliss tube. I watched closely how Justin installed the thing in and it looked easy and safe enough when done in slow methodical way. The only problem was that we just couldn’t get the tyre over the rim afterwards using whatever force we could muster. We were baffled, until Bertie, who spectated the whole proceeding noticed the problem: we have started with the tyre at the rimlock side and by the time we got to the other side, it was too tight as we couldn’t push the tyre into the center of the wheel at the rimlock’s side to ease the tension on the other side. So we swapped, starting at the opposite side, and everything went on smoothly. The thing that cheered me up - my patch from the morning was all good and well, it didn't off as I suspected. I just got another puncture.

With that sorted, we hit the beds hoping for a first early start next morning.
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Re: Justin, I agree!
« Reply #128 on: April 13, 2018, 03:14:48 pm »
To ride solo you need to be comfortable and happy with your own company ...which Xpat is

You do need to have some mechanical skills and should at least be able to fix flat wheels ...which Xpat can (but maybe not first time)... .
etc.
     etc.
          etc.
               etc...

Justin! I think what we have here is a classic failure to communicate brought on by the internet and not enough beers.

I was hoping to tease and encourage Xpat. Tease him for puncturing his spare tube and encourage him by saying he has balls to do stuff himself. I don't know him well enough to do it properly, so I mealy-mouthed it a bit. The internet can do that; lead to poorly worded comments, in-depth rebuttals and then a rebuttal of the rebuttal. You came to his defense as a mate, good on you.

Now I must defend my own honour by puffing up my solo-riding cred:
HERE is a 7 month trip I did across Africa in 2004, much of it solo... I did it with no knowledge of anything and I was on a ghastly BMW! We did the Kunene River route and at that time it was waaaay over my head.
HERE is a short ride I did where I expound upon the value of solo riding.
HERE is 430km I did last week to TZ alone in which I got stuck in a riverbed and had to dig myself out.

Let's be mates! Have a look at some of the riding we get up to in Kenya and come visit! We should organize an exchange program even... an AirBNB for bikes maybe!

Xpat, on with the ride! Sorry for the mixup/hijack! I will now shut up.

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Oh, for fuck's sake, can you to stop turning this thread into khumbaya sobfest?! I understood the nature of the Osadabwa's jab perfectly well - we exchange those regularly on our respective threads. All in good jest (and I did fix the tube eventually and fixed it well, smartass  :snorting:). I just didn't reply as I was busy composing slopy story about desert elephants that I just posted.

I never met Osadabwa (but as he said considered seriously riding up there for some fun), but I would merrily go for a trip with him. He seems big and ugly enough to go his own way in the middle of Samburuland without hard feelings should we not hit it off. The most important quality I'm looking for in people I want to ride with.

With regards to the balls (and yes, I understand it was used in a jest) one doesn't need much of them for this trip. The dirty secret  is that the world is a very, very, I mean VERY safe place. I know it is difficult to believe if you watch TV or internet, but it is so and you can check it for yourself easily by going out on a trip like this (just go on your own, not on organized tours which will keep you in a bubble). Once you see that there is not much to be scared of, you don't need courage/balls/whatever. You are at much higher risk of crime in your home in Pretoria, Joburg or CT - it's absolutely non-issue up there in Kaokoland. And in terms of riding risks - daily commuting on N1 or weekend breakfast run to Harties with all the other stressed people on the road is ten times more risky.

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Re: Capie and Vaalie taken for a ride by dodgy Russian
« Reply #129 on: April 13, 2018, 03:15:51 pm »
Please go ask on tubliss thread opened so we don't pollute this one

Yes Sir.
Chris & Martin I just saw a fb post of Ryan and Sarah (owners of Camp Syncro) that the North West had good rains the last few days. Hoarusib flowing strongly and roads around Kaoko Otavi looking like rivers.....

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Thanks, that is very good to hear  :thumleft:

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Re: Capie and Vaalie taken for a ride by dodgy Russian
« Reply #130 on: April 13, 2018, 03:19:00 pm »
lol

Guess there is no chance of one of them recognising him from that swollen eye pic

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Re: Capie and Vaalie taken for a ride by dodgy Russian
« Reply #131 on: April 13, 2018, 03:20:56 pm »
Tubliss section has been opened  :peepwall:

Bring your expert advise.  I'm keen to hear it.  I have been contemplating tubliss conversion for a while now  :pot:

http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=223092.msg4039147;topicseen#msg4039147


Thank you Grunder  :thumleft:

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Re: Capie and Vaalie taken for a ride by dodgy Russian
« Reply #132 on: April 13, 2018, 03:26:32 pm »
I like late afternoon colour and shadows  :thumleft:
 
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Re: Capie and Vaalie taken for a ride by dodgy Russian
« Reply #133 on: April 13, 2018, 03:28:38 pm »
Please go ask on tubliss thread opened so we don't pollute this one

Thanks again, just to be sure - I may have been a bit too nazi in my comment about offtopic: I don't mind - actually enjoy - little sidetracks the conversation takes spurred by the events in the report - like tubeliss issues and the attempted fix. Makes for interesting conversation and I can learn from some of the reply's, which is great. And I would like to encourage you to say if I for example get something factually wrong or if you see that we were doing something blatantly wrong and you know how to do it right.

I just would like for people to exercise a little judgement and not let the thread to be taken completely offtopic. Of course this is subjective, but as an example: If somebody has actually fixed Tubeliss inner tube sucessfully, please let us know here (or in the other thread) as it is directly related to what Justin tried and failed to do on the trip, and we will all benefit from the knowledge.

On the other hand, lenghty explanation about what Tubeliss is and arguments about 'my Tubeliss is better than yours' or even worse 'my tubeless tyre is better than your tubed' - those I'd like to steer clear on this thread as they distract from the story and are irrelevant in the contest of this thread. Ta

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Re: Capie and Vaalie taken for a ride by dodgy Russian
« Reply #134 on: April 13, 2018, 03:30:49 pm »
I like late afternoon colour and shadows  :thumleft:

Yes, more or less everybody does. But 15 - 20 minutes earlier the colors would have not been dramatically different and I would have been able to get the whole waterfall in a proper light. Not just the biggest one - the falls are about 2 km wide with plenty of side waterfalls around.

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Re: Capie and Vaalie taken for a ride by dodgy Russian
« Reply #135 on: April 13, 2018, 03:34:30 pm »
If possible please attach a gps track of the route at some time. Tx.  :sip:

Will do that once the report is finished (which will be only in May as I'm leaving for trip) - as I am quite busy now. That said, if you have Basecamp and Tracks4Africa, you should be able to plot it yourself very easy just following the maps I have posted. Those are just screenshots from Basecamp and all the routes we have ridden are on T4A, so it is just matter of 15 minutes - max half an hour to plot them there.

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Re: Capie and Vaalie taken for a ride by dodgy Russian
« Reply #136 on: April 13, 2018, 03:35:51 pm »
From the photographic evidence thus far, we've only seen you seated during the process.

We need to know whether you meerkat please?

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Re: Capie and Vaalie taken for a ride by dodgy Russian
« Reply #137 on: April 13, 2018, 03:36:23 pm »
Ok so tell us, what punctured the tubliss tube.

While trying to avoid a Tubliss thread hijack just a quick question - have you tried Tyre Shield in the inner tube? (not during fitting but actually in the tube).

No, I haven't, I avoid that stuff. I believe most problems with Tubeliss are related to incorrect installation, but I have only limited experience and will post about that rather on the Tubeliss thread.

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Re: Capie and Vaalie taken for a ride by dodgy Russian
« Reply #138 on: April 13, 2018, 03:39:57 pm »
From the photographic evidence thus far, we've only seen you seated during the process.

We need to know whether you meerkat please?

Asking for a friend

On this kind of trip very rarely - that is the beauty of 500 that it allows one to sit and ride sand and rocks, conserving energy in the process. On 690 I might have been standing a lot of time. And on Tenere that was the last bike I used there I stood most of the time as it is such a fat pig.

And of course if I take 500 through a enduro loop like DeWildt I stand a lot as well. I do whatever it takes in that particular case  to ride smoothly and enjoy myself.

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Re: Capie and Vaalie taken for a ride by dodgy Russian
« Reply #139 on: April 13, 2018, 03:46:01 pm »
Ok so tell us, what punctured the tubliss tube.

I think I already posted this in 500 thread, but here it is: it was pinched/punctured on the inside. So it wasn't caused by external thorn as I suspected because I was riding in some crazy bushes when I was looking for the river. By the look/shape of the pinch Justin and I speculated that it must have been damaged during installation, and just took long time to finally start loosing the air.

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