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125 - Yamaha, KTM of Husqvarna?
« on: April 10, 2018, 08:35:08 pm »
My seun skuif op na die HoŽrskool racing klas toe en ek moet n 125 aanskaf.

Die yamaha 125x is so R20k goedkoper as n KTM en Husqvarna maar ek weet nie veel van hulle af nie. My gut fealing is dat die yamaha goedkoper gaan wees op onderhoud en die engine seker langer gaan hou.

Hoe vergelyk top spoed tussen die 3?

Enige insette / raad sal waardeer word.

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Re: 125 - Yamaha, KTM of Husqvarna?
« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2018, 10:36:41 am »
Type of racing?

For MX and Open field type racing I would go with the Yamaha. The R20k saving can be well spent on all the other massive expenses that goes with racing.

If he looks like he is enjoying the technical riding more I would go for the European bikes. They are just more refined and easier to ride in difficult terrain.

All the above are fast, very fast, scary fast for a 125 2T. The days of expensive spares for KTM/Husq are long gone. They are on par with Yamaha.
So would base my decision on the type of riding he intends on doing and loves doing

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Re: 125 - Yamaha, KTM of Husqvarna?
« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2018, 01:45:06 pm »
Type of racing?

For MX and Open field type racing I would go with the Yamaha. The R20k saving can be well spent on all the other massive expenses that goes with racing.

If he looks like he is enjoying the technical riding more I would go for the European bikes. They are just more refined and easier to ride in difficult terrain.

All the above are fast, very fast, scary fast for a 125 2T. The days of expensive spares for KTM/Husq are long gone. They are on par with Yamaha.
So would base my decision on the type of riding he intends on doing and loves doing

Hope this helps  :thumleft:
Thanks it does help.

He is into off road (open field) racing.  He mostly practices on my 300 and 500 which is scary stuff, but is used to speed.



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Re: 125 - Yamaha, KTM of Husqvarna?
« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2018, 02:05:48 pm »
Just one thing. The YZ comes with a 19 inch rear. So might limit the enduro/offroad tyre and mousse options.
But doubt it will be a big deal at this stage.

Does he have a preference or choice on the bike?
 

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Re: 125 - Yamaha, KTM of Husqvarna?
« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2018, 02:09:38 pm »
YZ 125X or my KTM 250F  :thumleft:
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Re: 125 - Yamaha, KTM of Husqvarna?
« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2018, 02:10:59 pm »
His preference is obvious the more expensive ones...

But since I am his one and only sponser it does limit his options a bit 🤣

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Re: 125 - Yamaha, KTM of Husqvarna?
« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2018, 02:12:09 pm »
YZ 125X or my KTM 250F  :thumleft:
Thanks but he can't race a 250 in high school class

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Re: 125 - Yamaha, KTM of Husqvarna?
« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2018, 02:29:28 pm »
Arent they limited to 200CC smoker and 250 4T?
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Re: 125 - Yamaha, KTM of Husqvarna?
« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2018, 03:01:25 pm »
Arent they limited to 200CC smoker and 250 4T?
No high school is limited to 125cc 2 stroke.

OR3 is open for riders from age 16 and max limited 200cc

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Re: 125 - Yamaha, KTM of Husqvarna?
« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2018, 04:42:26 pm »
You gonna get him one in time for this weekend at Bapsfontein?

I'm told there's a farm jam the following weekend. He may be able to ride that on your 300, their rules are a bit more lax.
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Re: 125 - Yamaha, KTM of Husqvarna?
« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2018, 04:55:44 pm »
You gonna get him one in time for this weekend at Bapsfontein?

I'm told there's a farm jam the following weekend. He may be able to ride that on your 300, their rules are a bit more lax.
Not for this weekend as he can only race 125 from July so it will be for the next GXCC.

He is harassing me for next weekend's farm jam so he will ride the 300

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Re: 125 - Yamaha, KTM of Husqvarna?
« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2018, 05:21:28 pm »
Just one thing. The YZ comes with a 19 inch rear. So might limit the enduro/offroad tyre and mousse options.
But doubt it will be a big deal at this stage.

Does he have a preference or choice on the bike?

Say what? The new 125X runs an 18inch rear and comes with a sidestand.
As far as I'm aware they've played around with the powervalve and torque curve on the bike as well to avoid the big hit it used to have.
The friend of mines daughter races the new 125X in the National Offroads and she's over the moon with her new Yamaha. She says it's very much different to her old YZ125 MX bike... in a good way  :thumleft:

But the Husky's & KTM's are just as good even if a little more expensive.
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Re: 125 - Yamaha, KTM of Husqvarna?
« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2018, 08:13:41 am »
Just one thing. The YZ comes with a 19 inch rear. So might limit the enduro/offroad tyre and mousse options.
But doubt it will be a big deal at this stage.

Does he have a preference or choice on the bike?

Say what? The new 125X runs an 18inch rear and comes with a sidestand.
As far as I'm aware they've played around with the powervalve and torque curve on the bike as well to avoid the big hit it used to have.
The friend of mines daughter races the new 125X in the National Offroads and she's over the moon with her new Yamaha. She says it's very much different to her old YZ125 MX bike... in a good way  :thumleft:

But the Husky's & KTM's are just as good even if a little more expensive.

Yeah sorry, was unaware that the 125 was also launched in the X version.

But even with the X, it will not nearly be as refined as the European 125s. Have not ridden the Yamaha 125X, but have tried the 250X. And even though people use it in enduro, it is not an easy ride or as refined as the European bikes.

Great for offroads, shitty for tech riding. So perfect for what he intends on using it for.


So what have you decided @Serf
 

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Re: 125 - Yamaha, KTM of Husqvarna?
« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2018, 08:41:38 am »
Ja Pom, is 2018 man YZ finally got a new addition  :thumleft:

But I still agree with Pom regarding Tech riding on a Jap bike VS EU bike, been there done that I have several T-shirts. 

But as a summary for the more off road orientated rider the 125X will then be your perfect weapon with its MX lower gears and more snappy characteristics it way more responsive and takes less gear work when you going fast all the time!
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