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Offline GhostSixFour

What does the ABS feel like
« on: April 25, 2018, 03:51:30 pm »
So I'm very much a newbie to the motorcycling world. This afternoon on my way home, I took a bit of a detour to practice some emergency braking. So I apply the brakes, and suddenly my rear brake pedal feels like it is bouncing up and down. Is that normal is that the ABS kicking in? Does the ABS light on the dash start flashing when it's doing its thing? Or is it a case of the tyres I'm using? Mitas E07.
 

Offline GhostSixFour

Re: What does the ABS feel like
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2018, 03:52:20 pm »
Should add. This is a 2014 F800GS - and the tyres are up to pressure at 2.9bar front and rear.
 

Offline johanp

Re: What does the ABS feel like
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2018, 03:54:44 pm »
That's quite a bit of pressure for dirt, but yes it does sound like ABS kicked in - switch it off when going on dirt. Also, you're bike's got stability control which is also a strange feeling at first.
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Offline heinzz

Re: What does the ABS feel like
« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2018, 04:04:12 pm »
 :thumleft: That feeling is your abs working.
 

Offline GhostSixFour

Re: What does the ABS feel like
« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2018, 07:27:05 pm »
That's quite a bit of pressure for dirt, but yes it does sound like ABS kicked in - switch it off when going on dirt. Also, you're bike's got stability control which is also a strange feeling at first.

Practiced on road for now. Not touching anything in terms of switching it off :) yet..

Good to know that all is well.
 

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Re: What does the ABS feel like
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2018, 03:26:54 pm »
On my 800 the rear ABS kicks in very easily. It's strange for the first few times, but you get used to it.

Your tyre pressure on the front tyre is quite high. Look under the seat, the sticker with the recommended pressures is there.
Unladen it's 2.2 front and 2.5 rear and fully laden 2.5 front and 2.9 rear.
 

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Re: What does the ABS feel like
« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2018, 03:37:12 pm »
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Re: What does the ABS feel like
« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2018, 03:43:48 pm »
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Re: What does the ABS feel like
« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2018, 04:08:35 pm »
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Offline Pannas

Re: What does the ABS feel like
« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2018, 02:01:00 pm »
if I may resurrect this draad..... I've heard many arguments concerning ABS on dirt - should it be on, should it be off....?
Why should it be off when hitting the farm roads?
 

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Re: What does the ABS feel like
« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2018, 09:40:08 pm »
if I may resurrect this draad..... I've heard many arguments concerning ABS on dirt - should it be on, should it be off....?
Why should it be off when hitting the farm roads?

Except for the latest technology non ABS will stop quicker. Period.

It is one of the first things in basic offroad training to compare the two modes.

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Offline Dwerg

Re: What does the ABS feel like
« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2018, 06:45:17 am »
The ABS system on a 800GS (and probably more relavant, the suspension) is particularly bad. Even on a bumpy tar road, it will sometimes severely interfere over little bumps.

You can do a little relaxed cruise on dirt and still have usable brakes with ABS ON but given an emergency situation you're going to be in trouble.
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Offline johanp

Re: What does the ABS feel like
« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2018, 06:56:28 am »
Not sure about the pre-faclift models, but on the newer ones with the WP suspension and rider modes I have never experienced the ABS interfering on bumpy roads. I suspect tyre choice and pressure would also influence this of course.
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Re: What does the ABS feel like
« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2018, 07:07:27 am »
Not sure about the pre-faclift models, but on the newer ones with the WP suspension and rider modes I have never experienced the ABS interfering on bumpy roads. I suspect tyre choice and pressure would also influence this of course.

I've had it plenty on both models I owned. (650 and 800 K72). And not even under heavy use, sometimes just slowing down for a traffic light or stop street.
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Re: What does the ABS feel like
« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2018, 07:29:56 am »
Not sure about the pre-faclift models, but on the newer ones with the WP suspension and rider modes I have never experienced the ABS interfering on bumpy roads. I suspect tyre choice and pressure would also influence this of course.

I've had it plenty on both models I owned. (650 and 800 K72). And not even under heavy use, sometimes just slowing down for a traffic light or stop street.
What tyres were you running? I also had a  2010 650 twin and now the 800 MU.
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Re: What does the ABS feel like
« Reply #15 on: November 20, 2018, 07:52:39 am »
I'm no expert but are we talking about the rear acting up when braking?

The rear tyre will almost always act up because the pressure is on the front wheel.

Must add that the 800 is my first abs bike but I believe the principal remains the same.

It happened to me in the beginning also. 
When I reapplied this principle it has not happened to me since.
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Offline Dwerg

Re: What does the ABS feel like
« Reply #16 on: November 20, 2018, 08:08:16 am »
Had Tourance, Sirac, Anakee, Terraforce, T63, E07, E09. Take your pick. Around 100 000kms done between the two bikes.

And yes rear kicks in easily on all bikes. I'm talking about the GS front end
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Re: What does the ABS feel like
« Reply #17 on: November 20, 2018, 08:10:33 am »
Had Tourance, Sirac, Anakee, Terraforce, T63, E07, E09. Take your pick. Around 100 000kms done between the two bikes.

And yes rear kicks in easily on all bikes. I'm talking about the GS front end

Ok. interesting.

Maybe I brake like a girl. I need to push the limits a bit  :biggrin:
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Offline Dwerg

Re: What does the ABS feel like
« Reply #18 on: November 20, 2018, 08:15:49 am »
Nope just normal medium load on a road with undulations. Sometimes more noticeable than others.

Anyway I don't mean for it to be a discussion point. I just used it to to add to the reason why you need to which it off when on the dirt.
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Offline Pannas

Re: What does the ABS feel like
« Reply #19 on: November 20, 2018, 08:17:48 am »
thanks guys, but you're veering from the point.... while still not answering my question.
my question is - why must abs be turned off on dirt?

You can do a little relaxed cruise on dirt and still have usable brakes with ABS ON but given an emergency situation you're going to be in trouble.

why? why am I going to be in trouble? what are the breaks going to do? I'm not challenging anyone here, I just need a technical answer. what does the abs do on loose dirt?
I've been riding bikes and off road for about 35 years now - and this is my first motorcycle with ABS (which I have to add, I've not had to use/felt kick in yet).

assume this is my first bike and i have no experience... so why must i turn off my abs when going off road?