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Offline BuRP

Re: 701 Fuel consumption
« Reply #20 on: September 21, 2018, 10:27:20 am »
... that's around 18 km/l

Then you ride like a nutcase, a haastige een at that  :P
But then again, with Mayhem as nick that may not be a surprise then!  :biggrin:
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Re: 701 Fuel consumption
« Reply #21 on: September 21, 2018, 11:40:15 am »
Why would they give you so much power if you are not going to use it.... ;-)
... that's around 18 km/l

Then you ride like a nutcase, a haastige een at that 
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Re: 701 Fuel consumption
« Reply #22 on: September 22, 2018, 02:39:21 pm »
The first tanks when I bought my 701 last year April was all about 19 - 19.5 km/l. The best I ever got was around 22km/l and I dont ride it like a hooligan. I put on a Akrapovic kit in February. Did not affect consumption too much. 3rd last tank was about 21 km/l. I took it for a annual service with about 3300km on the clock on Thursday. Bloemfontein is 240 km from me, and my first tank gave my about 15km/l. This was at about 140 most of the time and with short stints of 165 with a bit of cross wind. After the service, the second tank was slightly better at about 16km/l but I was bit puzzled about this bad consumption. The last tank I did not bother to calculate and less than a kilometre from the fill-up, the engine broke a piston ring. I think it might have been faulty for a while as my backpack smelt heavy of burned oil. Strangely, in my 3300km of ownership it never had any oil comsumption...
 

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Re: 701 Fuel consumption
« Reply #23 on: September 25, 2018, 08:30:13 am »
The first tanks when I bought my 701 last year April was all about 19 - 19.5 km/l. The best I ever got was around 22km/l and I dont ride it like a hooligan. I put on a Akrapovic kit in February. Did not affect consumption too much. 3rd last tank was about 21 km/l. I took it for a annual service with about 3300km on the clock on Thursday. Bloemfontein is 240 km from me, and my first tank gave my about 15km/l. This was at about 140 most of the time and with short stints of 165 with a bit of cross wind. After the service, the second tank was slightly better at about 16km/l but I was bit puzzled about this bad consumption. The last tank I did not bother to calculate and less than a kilometre from the fill-up, the engine broke a piston ring. I think it might have been faulty for a while as my backpack smelt heavy of burned oil. Strangely, in my 3300km of ownership it never had any oil comsumption...

Read about your bikes' failure on the FB group.  :'(

Please keep us updated on what went wrong and how it will be fixed... Still under warantee?
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Re: 701 Fuel consumption
« Reply #24 on: September 25, 2018, 10:01:29 am »
Read about your bikes' failure on the FB group.

W@nted, I liked you, but now you fogged up!  >:(
NEVER refer to FaecesBook shit (which is a different name for a toilet roll, you knew?) but splurge the info here, as this is the Husky forum - which is accessible by all & sundry, contrary to FB of which one has to become a member first.... which is for people either narcissistic, with an inferiority complex or with a small tottie!
I'm neither so cannot, and do not want to, look on their site - but here, on these pages, the real okes are found, they own and ride their bikes, hence they're entitled to whatever info is out there!

So, rant over..... pls tell us what this failure entails, assuming there's more chaps who had this happening to their bike?
 :thumleft:
« Last Edit: September 25, 2018, 10:02:50 am by BuRP »
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Re: 701 Fuel consumption
« Reply #25 on: September 25, 2018, 10:09:18 am »
The first tanks when I bought my 701 last year April was all about 19 - 19.5 km/l. The best I ever got was around 22km/l and I dont ride it like a hooligan. I put on a Akrapovic kit in February. Did not affect consumption too much. 3rd last tank was about 21 km/l. I took it for a annual service with about 3300km on the clock on Thursday. Bloemfontein is 240 km from me, and my first tank gave my about 15km/l. This was at about 140 most of the time and with short stints of 165 with a bit of cross wind. After the service, the second tank was slightly better at about 16km/l but I was bit puzzled about this bad consumption. The last tank I did not bother to calculate and less than a kilometre from the fill-up, the engine broke a piston ring. I think it might have been faulty for a while as my backpack smelt heavy of burned oil. Strangely, in my 3300km of ownership it never had any oil comsumption...

BF, couple of questions please.
- What oil and what viscosity did you use?
- Be honest please, did you rev the cold engine a bit at times, like starting the bike and revving it?
- At what intervals did you change the oil, meaning KTM/Hqv's intervals or your own i.e more frequent?
- What airfilter do you run, and if changed at what mileage?
Rings don't break without reason(s), hence me asking.....
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Re: 701 Fuel consumption
« Reply #26 on: September 25, 2018, 10:10:39 am »
Read about your bikes' failure on the FB group.

W@nted, I liked you, but now you fogged up!  >:(
NEVER refer to FaecesBook shit (which is a different name for a toilet roll, you knew?) but splurge the info here, as this is the Husky forum - which is accessible by all & sundry, contrary to FB of which one has to become a member first.... which is for people either narcissistic, with an inferiority complex or with a small tottie!
I'm neither so cannot, and do not want to, look on their site - but here, on these pages, the real okes are found, they own and ride their bikes, hence they're entitled to whatever info is out there!

So, rant over..... pls tell us what this failure entails, assuming there's more chaps who had this happening to their bike?
 :thumleft:

Hahaha BuRP

I only use Facebook for informative reasons, not the personal description you gave above (to which I agree mostly with your description). There is actually a Husky 701 enduro international and Husky 701 enduro south africa Facebook group, where you need to be approved by admins, like this forum... Many of the advrider members are members on these Facebook groups, which proves to be very informative... That is where I read of the above mentioned failure over the weekend. I have had discussions with the poster above previously on Facebook, hence I am very interested in the findings and solution to the failure he experienced.
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Re: 701 Fuel consumption
« Reply #27 on: September 25, 2018, 12:22:48 pm »
OK w@nted, you're creeping up the respect-ladder a bit again, can't help myself but like people with a sense of humour.... I probably should grow up one day   :P

If this broken-ring case is a singular case it's not a case at all, I'd write if off to bad luck.
Shit happens, and the oke mounting the rings may have had a glipsie, or, unbeknown to him the ring was damaged prior to him mounting them - who will tell?
If however a few chaps have the same problem then such can be investigated, but not isolated unique cases.

Thick oil and cold revving though is a bit different, ditto some filter not filtering too well, and I have (a personal no doubt) problem with an oilchange interval of 10Kkm....  ;)
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Re: 701 Fuel consumption
« Reply #28 on: September 25, 2018, 12:59:29 pm »
OK w@nted, you're creeping up the respect-ladder a bit again, can't help myself but like people with a sense of humour.... I probably should grow up one day   :P

If this broken-ring case is a singular case it's not a case at all, I'd write if off to bad luck.
Shit happens, and the oke mounting the rings may have had a glipsie, or, unbeknown to him the ring was damaged prior to him mounting them - who will tell?
If however a few chaps have the same problem then such can be investigated, but not isolated unique cases.

Thick oil and cold revving though is a bit different, ditto some filter not filtering too well, and I have (a personal no doubt) problem with an oilchange interval of 10Kkm....  ;)

Thanks  for the good news about the ladder  :deal:

It looks to me like an isolated case as well, as I have not read about similar failures either. It just worries me that it happened after the annual service, pointing slightly in the direction of the mechanic...However it could just be bad luck as you said. Let us rather wait for feedback from him  :thumleft:
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Re: 701 Fuel consumption
« Reply #29 on: September 25, 2018, 01:55:03 pm »
Let us rather wait for feedback from him

I agree, it could well be he's honest enough to admit he revs the tits off his stonecold bike - without any airfilter! - to impress the 13 y/o neighbours daughter / the 34 y/o sexy neighbour's wife / the 69 y/o milf next door, or just to irritate the neighbour himself because he always chainsaws his firewood at 4h45 on a Sunday morning.
Dunno the oke, hope he'll have a SOH though  :biggrin:
« Last Edit: September 25, 2018, 02:02:39 pm by BuRP »
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Re: 701 Fuel consumption
« Reply #30 on: September 26, 2018, 08:20:54 am »
So according to trusted Facebook information  :deal: the root cause has been found to the lack of power and smoke... I will wait for BravoFox to post the findings himself, but in short, it is believed that there was diesel contamination at the fuel station... :o
« Last Edit: September 26, 2018, 08:23:08 am by w@nted »
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Re: 701 Fuel consumption
« Reply #31 on: September 26, 2018, 02:06:50 pm »
it is believed that there was diesel contamination at the fuel station

One guess who I would present the repair bill to, or sue if they were somewhat reluctant to pay it?
Proving it though may perhaps be problematic.....  8)




But, as with all problems there's a bright side: I now know it's bad to run my bike on diesel!  :thumleft:
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Re: 701 Fuel consumption
« Reply #32 on: September 26, 2018, 02:12:17 pm »
His repair bill, at the very minimum, should include:
- new piston & rings
- new barrel
- all relevant gaskets
- bill for washing his fuel tank
- bill for flushing his fuel system including new filter
- new filters & oil
- ...
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Re: 701 Fuel consumption
« Reply #33 on: September 26, 2018, 04:10:15 pm »
Or you just drain all the diesel, refill with petrol and go on your way.
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Re: 701 Fuel consumption
« Reply #34 on: September 26, 2018, 04:18:55 pm »
Or you just drain all the diesel, refill with petrol and go on your way.

Remind me not to buy a bike from you Amsterdam  :P
Getting home with a broken piston ring is fine, but once there it'll go open...
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Re: 701 Fuel consumption
« Reply #35 on: September 26, 2018, 04:45:44 pm »
Good point, in fact nobody should buy a bike from me. Will make it easier to explain to my wife why the garage keeps filling up. My comment was regarding diesel in the tank instead of petrol. A hassle but not a crisis I think. 
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Re: 701 Fuel consumption
« Reply #36 on: September 30, 2018, 08:39:19 pm »
Or you just drain all the diesel, refill with petrol and go on your way.

Actually, that worked just fine...
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