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Offline XRRX

Africa Twin Fork issue - Honda SA ... Now what ...
« on: May 10, 2018, 09:51:32 pm »
Yes, call this social media pressure; black-mailing or whatever the f%%% you want to call it - but I'm really really really "piss&ed off with Honda" !!!  :xxbah:
AND I HAVE PERSONALLY DEFEND THEIR HONOUR IN THE PAST - I was even banned on their behalf - AS MANY "CRITICS"   here WILL KNOW!  ::)

Here's the story in my best "short-hand":

Old friend - "Rider 39", myself and Skolla decided to meet up for some sort of reunion in Aliwal North of all places...  ::)
We were all spot-on for the opening of the heaven's in the Northern Cape/Southern Freestate State!!!  :o :o ... it p%ss#d with rain ...
 We got together late at night in Aliwal - without any water supply!!! :xxbah: :xxbah: :lol8: :lol8: ...as the world were washing away!!!  :deal: (fortnight ago)
Next day we stuck to tar - only about 160km to Gariep - as the gravel roads were an absolute mess!!!

The absolute spectacle of Gariep "mo&ring over and away", made us take a short day and a long "kuier" at Gariep Inn ...  :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft:

Next day the plan was to visit "VanderKloof and Orania" ...
After a mere 60 odd kays - in Philippolis of all places - after about 40k's of gravel with a few minor surprises - we noticed that Rider 39"s left front shock on his AT was really really "pissing" oil all over the place - left front disc brake and even engine covered in oil !!!  :o :o

After many phone calls - finding parts at Central Honda Bloem as well as a free same-day lift, we decided to stay over in the Philippolis Lodge - waiting-out the crisis, trying to repair the bike before taking on the busy N1 ... rest of planned tour now cancelled ...

Rider 39; myself as well as Skolla - a qualified motor meccie, as well as an engineering expert In milking machines ::), took on the job of replacing the seals ... eventually only the left shock ... right shock seemed fine ...

The rest of the way to Bloem; Bethlehem and Rider 39 to PMB - per tar - the bloody shock still leaked - and it is still leaking!!! (not pissing)

Long story short - Ryder 39 took it to Honda Zambesi - who lodged a complaint with Honda SA ... Stanchion is damaged !!

Their response: "rider's own fault" ... no claim!!!  :xxbah: :xxbah: :xxbah:

Their poor quality cost each and every one in the group quite a lot of money as well as trouble - now this "denial" ... :eek7:

I still think the AT is brilliant - but according to "Google" this front shock problem is quiet common - SO MAN-UP MR HONDA - OR GO HOME!!!  :director
« Last Edit: May 11, 2018, 09:36:21 pm by XRRX »
 

Offline XRRX

Re: Africa Twin - Honda SA ... Now what ...
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2018, 09:57:16 pm »
BTW - this specific AT has only covered a little more than 10 000km with absolute no bloody abuse!!!  :deal: :deal:
 

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Re: Africa Twin - Honda SA ... Now what ...
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2018, 09:59:50 pm »
... :deal:

... at least we could make some fun of the devastated Honda fan with an old "Bra" ...  :patch:
 

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Re: Africa Twin - Honda SA ... Now what ...
« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2018, 10:15:08 pm »
Is omdat al die shocks deesdae onderste bo ingesit word. Nog nader aan die klippe en modder en die olie kan makliker uitloop. :deal: ;D
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Re: Africa Twin - Honda SA ... Now what ...
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2018, 03:41:09 am »
Shitola!!

That does not look good ... and here I am in the middle of counting the expected distance on the next planned ride we have coming up .... 6800 plus.

What exactly does Honda think he has done to the shock?

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Re: Africa Twin - Honda SA ... Now what ...
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2018, 05:11:11 am »
So, was there physical damage on the Stansion from a rock or dirt that got trapped in the seal?

Or, does it appear to be wear related?

Or, does it appear to be manufacture error related?

I'd suggest getting an independent specialist to evaluate the fork in it's entirety and give an independent non biased assessment. And go from there.

Also, before coming on here to have a rant, did you ask Honda why they came to this conclusion?

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Re: Africa Twin - Honda SA ... Now what ...
« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2018, 06:04:19 am »
That's very odd, I've had both my fork seals replaced by Honda under warranty - no quibble.

First one (right) a couple of months ago and second one (left) just last week.
 

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Re: Africa Twin - Honda SA ... Now what ...
« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2018, 06:26:33 am »
being a Honda fan myself, not good to hear. there was a lot of R and D before the AT was released, they should have picked this up. Or...the have submitted to using inferior parts as a way of saving cost
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Re: Africa Twin - Honda SA ... Now what ...
« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2018, 07:22:37 am »
Is die stanchion die gedeelte wat in en uit beweeg (my Engels is nie up to scratch nie)?
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Re: Africa Twin - Honda SA ... Now what ...
« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2018, 07:38:31 am »
Can't blame Honda for this in my opinion.

 

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Re: Africa Twin - Honda SA ... Now what ...
« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2018, 07:43:55 am »
If you going to ride in dirt/dust/mud you going to get dirt stuck in a seal eventually

I suggest you invest in one of these to carry in your "pack"

 

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Re: Africa Twin - Honda SA ... Now what ...
« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2018, 07:44:58 am »
I would go to Honda again and ask them to revisit the claim. Its always good to ask for a 2nd or 3rd opinion.

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Re: Africa Twin - Honda SA ... Now what ...
« Reply #12 on: May 11, 2018, 07:45:29 am »
Can't blame Honda for this in my opinion.

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« Reply #13 on: May 11, 2018, 07:46:18 am »
Can add some seal savers as well (remember to remove and clean OFTEN)

 
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Re: Africa Twin - Honda SA ... Now what ...
« Reply #14 on: May 11, 2018, 07:54:54 am »
Jammer oor jou ongerief maar die post help BAIE
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Re: Africa Twin - Honda SA ... Now what ...
« Reply #15 on: May 11, 2018, 07:55:52 am »
If you going to ride in dirt/dust/mud you going to get dirt stuck in a seal eventually

I suggest you invest in one of these to carry in your "pack"


What does this do, the same as the cleaner (Sock type) thingy?


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Re: Africa Twin - Honda SA ... Now what ...
« Reply #16 on: May 11, 2018, 08:21:36 am »
Unfortunately the AT's have earned themselves a bad reputation for front fork problems, not so much the seals but the hard anodizing inside wearing out (I believe the later ones have a different coating?). So although this is a seal problem (and could have happened to any bike under the conditions you were riding in) Honda is washing their hands of any front fork problems. I think you will have an even more difficult warranty claim since you tried to repair it yourself.
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Re: Africa Twin - Honda SA ... Now what ...
« Reply #17 on: May 11, 2018, 08:23:53 am »
If you going to ride in dirt/dust/mud you going to get dirt stuck in a seal eventually

I suggest you invest in one of these to carry in your "pack"


What does this do, the same as the cleaner (Sock type) thingy?

No it's a tool you use to clean under seal edge and dust wiper

 
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Re: Africa Twin - Honda SA ... Now what ...
« Reply #19 on: May 11, 2018, 08:26:54 am »
See now the little flap THANKS!!


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