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Offline dustlover

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Moving gear lever
« on: May 20, 2018, 03:43:38 pm »
Hi Dogs,

I bought some Adv boots and struggle to get my foot cleanly under the gear lever.

I need my gear lever to be adjusted higher than it can currently go. I have tried on the adjusting mechanism, loosened both lock nuts and turned it until it wouldn't go any more but need it still higher.

Does anyone know if it's possible to move the gear lever on the 1200 LC Adventure up one notch on the gear shaft splines?

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Re: Moving gear lever
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2018, 10:06:40 pm »
Hi,

I had the same issue my new boots, where the default position wasn't allowing my boot to fit..  lucky maxing out the nuts worked out for me.

But I read somewhere (possibly a thread here somewhere), that the guy in question grind-ed off a few threads off the adjusting screw and it solved his problem..

Maybe first try it with a spare piece of threaded rod before committing..

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Re: Moving gear lever
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2018, 10:13:40 pm »
Shift with side of your boot.

Or

Buy aftermarket lever from one of the forum suppliers that can adjust
 

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Re: Moving gear lever
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2018, 08:27:46 am »
Thanks guys. The aftermarket lever will be a last resort because it only extends the lever forward, not up.

I read in an overseas based forum about cutting the ends off the adjusting arm and that seemed to work. I think I will buy a spare and try it on that.

But with regard to just moving the lever on the spline, you guys reckon it's a no?
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Re: Moving gear lever
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2018, 09:00:39 am »
Not sure what boots you have. I have kept the lever on my oil cooled GSA in the same spot. When wearing my ADV boots I use the side seam to change as it has a nice lip. If you move the lever you may battle to change when using light boots

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Re: Moving gear lever
« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2018, 09:03:18 am »
I also shift with the side of my boot  The quick shifter seems to make it a bit easier to handle
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Re: Moving gear lever
« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2018, 09:29:38 am »
I have the Forma adventure boots and they have no welts so no lip I'm afraid..

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Re: Moving gear lever
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2018, 10:02:59 am »
I do not see why adjusting it on the splines will not work.
Maybe try to skip it one spline and see if it helps.
If it does not then set it back and try alternative options.

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Re: Moving gear lever
« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2018, 10:25:48 am »
2 things I learned on my GSA.... Ata the ADA course we did....
I moved the lever up on the splines - as long as they don't make contact with anything to stop the gear change, no problem.
Usoong the side of the boot - jam the side of the boot against the side of the end of the shifter - doesnt matter if there is a "welt" - the sideways pressure will allow the up-shift - very little pressure required.
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Re: Moving gear lever
« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2018, 11:06:53 am »
To answer your question directly ...

There is a small indicator on the shaft that, from the factory, lines up with the slot in the lever.

Remove the lever and move it one spline in the clockwise direction and refit it.

Then adjust the arm to get the lever in the correct position. 

As your boots wear in, you may find at a later stage that you will have to return the lever to the original position.
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Re: Moving gear lever
« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2018, 10:03:00 am »
Thanks to all for your input. I have adjusted the adjustment shaft as high as it will go and will try to buy another and cut the ends off to see if that works. I am also going to rotate the end piece of the gear lever as high as it will go since those tow options are the simplest and most practical.

I have limited movement and strength in my ankle so pressing my foot against the lever will not work. And in my experience, the quickshift requires quite a firm action anyway, making it a difficult option.

Jughead, I asked around and have been told that it is not possible to rotate my gear lever on the splines.  That would be a good solution but unfortunately not a starter, apparently. I would  however, like to make sure so this is a picture of the type of gearlever I have. Is it the same as yours?

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Re: Moving gear lever
« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2018, 10:42:09 am »
Remove the rubbers from the pegs.
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Re: Moving gear lever
« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2018, 01:46:51 pm »
Jughead, I asked around and have been told that it is not possible to rotate my gear lever on the splines.  That would be a good solution but unfortunately not a starter, apparently. I would  however, like to make sure so this is a picture of the type of gearlever I have. Is it the same as yours?

I haven't tried this with my LC, but I did move the gearlever on the splines of my 09 GS.  No issues. 

I am not sure if this will help you, but I found on the LC that the thingy you use to kick down the sidestand prevents my foot from getting under the gearlever properly.  The sole of my boot presses against that. 
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Re: Moving gear lever
« Reply #13 on: May 23, 2018, 03:15:22 pm »
Jughead, I asked around and have been told that it is not possible to rotate my gear lever on the splines.  That would be a good solution but unfortunately not a starter, apparently. I would  however, like to make sure so this is a picture of the type of gearlever I have. Is it the same as yours?

Apologies, Dustlover.  I was referring to my '06 Adventure.

I have however checked on my wife's 2015 Adventure and you are correct, the lever cannot be moved on the spline.

There is a workaround though.  If you could remove the arm on the gearbox and take it in to an engineering place, get them to mill off the double tooth as indicted by the red circle in the pic below.  The arm will then be fully adjustable.
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Re: Moving gear lever
« Reply #14 on: May 23, 2018, 03:53:07 pm »

Gee but you're crafty. That looks like an amazing solution and one which I am going to consider, thanks very much.

I'm going to start with ensuring the little protruding knob at the toe end is rotated fully up as far as it will go. If not, then it's all go for your solution.

Thanks again.
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Re: Moving gear lever
« Reply #15 on: May 23, 2018, 04:51:47 pm »
A thin grinding blade will also fit through the gap on the opposite side to remove the double tooth.

But don't tell anyone I told you to grind it off back yard mechanic style.

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Re: Moving gear lever
« Reply #16 on: July 04, 2018, 01:54:11 pm »
Use the lip if possible, but the lever must be setup correctly.  the best way I found is the below. . 

1. put the bike on the centre stand.
2. get a stool and tools required.
3. don't put the boot on, take boot and clip all clips on the boot to make boot stiff.
4.  sit on stool and change gears with the boot in your hands and adjust the pedal.   
5. once you are happy with the settings.
6. start engine with bike still on the centre stand and boot in hand.  and do a few gear changes.  (quickshifter helps.)
6. now put boot on.  bike still on the stand - climb onto the bike, stand up - or sit - look up and change gears by feel- once happy.
7. go for a ride with boots on feet -
8.  should be perfect - once happy don't forget to lock the nuts to keep the settings.

it takes a few minutes BUT never miss a gear or battle again.
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