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Re: Honda CRF450L is coming
« Reply #1200 on: June 21, 2019, 01:03:29 pm »
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Most of us have all owned one bike that we were glad to sell.. but amazingly then you see someone else riding the same bike who is as happy as a seagull with a chip

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Re: Honda CRF450L is coming
« Reply #1201 on: June 21, 2019, 03:00:12 pm »
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Most of us have all owned one bike that we were glad to sell.. but amazingly then you see someone else riding the same bike who is as happy as a seagull with a chip

There's even a oke on this forum who said that he's only had kak from Yamaha rd350's!! :eek7: :eek7: Is this even possible? :peepwall:
 

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Re: Honda CRF450L is coming
« Reply #1202 on: July 01, 2019, 02:43:30 pm »
I see there is a power up kit for sale on Facebook for the 450L at R6500. Randburg area.
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Re: Honda CRF450L is coming
« Reply #1203 on: July 02, 2019, 06:07:00 am »
Had high expectations for this bike. Anyway I just got hold of a 2011 yamaha wr 450. Weight 112kg dry- 58 hp claimed and oil changes according the manual I downloaded every 2000km.
Also paid R44000 with 4500km on the bike.
Sorry Honda !
 

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Re: Honda CRF450L is coming
« Reply #1204 on: July 02, 2019, 06:56:18 pm »
Good on you :thumbleft:

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Re: Honda CRF450L is coming
« Reply #1205 on: July 02, 2019, 07:04:17 pm »
Had high expectations for this bike. Anyway I just got hold of a 2011 yamaha wr 450. Weight 112kg dry- 58 hp claimed and oil changes according the manual I downloaded every 2000km.
Also paid R44000 with 4500km on the bike.
Sorry Honda !

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Re: Honda CRF450L is coming
« Reply #1206 on: July 03, 2019, 05:56:52 am »
Thanks 2sD- Also have 3 Bmw's.
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Re: Honda CRF450L is coming
« Reply #1207 on: July 03, 2019, 08:52:40 am »
Thanks 2sD- Also have 3 Bmw's.
Sorry  :laughing4:

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Re: Honda CRF450L is coming
« Reply #1208 on: July 03, 2019, 01:00:44 pm »
Thanks 2sD- Also have 3 Bmw's.
Sorry  :laughing4:

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Re: Honda CRF450L is coming
« Reply #1209 on: July 19, 2019, 09:09:42 am »
Here is my mates 450L

Just ordered the Australian and American specced ECU. Looks lekker

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Re: Honda CRF450L is coming
« Reply #1210 on: July 19, 2019, 09:40:02 am »
Here is my mates 450L

Just ordered the Australian and American specced ECU. Looks lekker

such a good looking bike  :drif:
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Re: Honda CRF450L is coming
« Reply #1211 on: July 19, 2019, 05:19:40 pm »
Love the look of this bike!  :thumleft:
 

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Re: Honda CRF450L is coming
« Reply #1212 on: July 19, 2019, 08:52:58 pm »
Great bike, look past the stock 24hp and get a Aus spec CDI
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Re: Honda CRF450L is coming
« Reply #1213 on: July 19, 2019, 09:25:33 pm »
I like it too. Saw a demo go the other day for just over R100k

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Re: Honda CRF450L is coming
« Reply #1214 on: July 22, 2019, 12:35:25 pm »
Had high expectations for this bike. Anyway I just got hold of a 2011 yamaha wr 450. Weight 112kg dry- 58 hp claimed and oil changes according the manual I downloaded every 2000km.
Also paid R44000 with 4500km on the bike.
Sorry Honda !

Did you go and ride the CRF450L?

I'm no expert but I would'nt be changing oil on a WR450 every 2000km

I'm assuming the price on an 8 year old 450L would also be in about the R40k range.

I'm still trying to get your point
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Re: Honda CRF450L is coming
« Reply #1215 on: July 30, 2019, 01:34:38 pm »


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Re: Honda CRF450L is coming
« Reply #1216 on: August 29, 2019, 11:01:14 am »
No doubt this will be / is a good bike, it's a Honda after all.
But the low-power version (Europe-type) combined with the high price will prevent it from becoming a sales success.
Pricewise it's close to a Husqvarna 701, and this bike sits just above the KTM 690.
Both have good suspension, the Husky better than the KTM... after all it's a premium KTM,
Then there's the KTM & Husky 500, on-road bikes also mind, which pricewise sit below the 690/701.
All these have oodles of power and good if not very good suspension - and they're reliable enough to go remote if not far, a few spares (pump mainly) will do.

Compared to these the 450L bleaks, it is waaaaayyyyyy to costly!
Plus underpowered because SA gets the 'Europe' version, detuned because Europe is Europe.
We're in Africa, vast and vastly different from this relatively small area (the best part of Europe fits into SA!) hence we need different bikes!

Goodluck Honda, but I think you're milking your reputation by pricing it skyhigh here.
And, although I like what @KarooKid & others are doing and will follow it, he sortof confirmed the above already by mentioning "and although it might need a little more punch it did everything asked of it and more" in his thread 'Honda CRF450L and The Tankwa Cross Country Rally'.

I agree, it likely will 'do' everything that is asked of it.... but for 2 things:
- put a smile on one's face because there's enough power, the crucial fun-factor when bikes are concerned as a bike is not a compact car
- give a value-for-money feeling when one considers the pricepoint of other bikes, my abovementioned examples just examples.
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Re: Honda CRF450L is coming
« Reply #1217 on: August 29, 2019, 12:42:49 pm »
No doubt this will be / is a good bike, it's a Honda after all.
But the low-power version (Europe-type) combined with the high price will prevent it from becoming a sales success.
Pricewise it's close to a Husqvarna 701, and this bike sits just above the KTM 690.
Both have good suspension, the Husky better than the KTM... after all it's a premium KTM,
Then there's the KTM & Husky 500, on-road bikes also mind, which pricewise sit below the 690/701.
All these have oodles of power and good if not very good suspension - and they're reliable enough to go remote if not far, a few spares (pump mainly) will do.

Compared to these the 450L bleaks, it is waaaaayyyyyy to costly!
Plus underpowered because SA gets the 'Europe' version, detuned because Europe is Europe.
We're in Africa, vast and vastly different from this relatively small area (the best part of Europe fits into SA!) hence we need different bikes!

Goodluck Honda, but I think you're milking your reputation by pricing it skyhigh here.
And, although I like what @KarooKid & others are doing and will follow it, he sortof confirmed the above already by mentioning "and although it might need a little more punch it did everything asked of it and more" in his thread 'Honda CRF450L and The Tankwa Cross Country Rally'.

I agree, it likely will 'do' everything that is asked of it.... but for 2 things:
- put a smile on one's face because there's enough power, the crucial fun-factor when bikes are concerned as a bike is not a compact car
- give a value-for-money feeling when one considers the pricepoint of other bikes, my abovementioned examples just examples.

Fairly accurate summary in my view as well. I could live with the low hp if they traded that off for a better service interval. Even 3000km intervals would do for me.
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Re: Honda CRF450L is coming
« Reply #1218 on: August 29, 2019, 02:41:29 pm »
a better service interval

My 701 has a service interval of 10,000 km's!
Ludicrous for me (mine will see loads more/shorter, has already) but this is a very nice gesture for buyers for whom this is important as it saves cost/hassles... but more importantly, this is literally according to the book, the manufacturer Warrants it with these intervals!
That makes for a rather confident manufacturer in my books!
That's also for the Enduro people, an offroad bike in which you pour new oil only after looooong intervals of dusty use!
No doubt Husqvarna has a reason for doing this, my guess is that they found little dust ingresses into the engine.

Directly related is Honda's very-short oilchange intervals for the 450L, which also must have a reason otherwise it'd be longer / more convenient.
I have no idea why but I'll leave anyone to guess what that reason is.... but it's another sore point which when compared to other bikes must leave one unimpressed.
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Re: Honda CRF450L is coming
« Reply #1219 on: August 29, 2019, 04:33:53 pm »
No doubt this will be / is a good bike, it's a Honda after all.
But the low-power version (Europe-type) combined with the high price will prevent it from becoming a sales success.
Pricewise it's close to a Husqvarna 701, and this bike sits just above the KTM 690.
Both have good suspension, the Husky better than the KTM... after all it's a premium KTM,
Then there's the KTM & Husky 500, on-road bikes also mind, which pricewise sit below the 690/701.
All these have oodles of power and good if not very good suspension - and they're reliable enough to go remote if not far, a few spares (pump mainly) will do.

Compared to these the 450L bleaks, it is waaaaayyyyyy to costly!
Plus underpowered because SA gets the 'Europe' version, detuned because Europe is Europe.
We're in Africa, vast and vastly different from this relatively small area (the best part of Europe fits into SA!) hence we need different bikes!

Goodluck Honda, but I think you're milking your reputation by pricing it skyhigh here.
And, although I like what @KarooKid & others are doing and will follow it, he sortof confirmed the above already by mentioning "and although it might need a little more punch it did everything asked of it and more" in his thread 'Honda CRF450L and The Tankwa Cross Country Rally'.

I agree, it likely will 'do' everything that is asked of it.... but for 2 things:
- put a smile on one's face because there's enough power, the crucial fun-factor when bikes are concerned as a bike is not a compact car
- give a value-for-money feeling when one considers the pricepoint of other bikes, my abovementioned examples just examples.

So what if I tell you that you will soon have the option of getting the higher HP conversion when you buy one?
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