Author Topic: Honda CRF450L is coming (Read 63513 times)

Sláinte Mhaith · « **Reply #60 on:** May 24, 2018, 10:15:07 am »

Quote from: edgy on May 24, 2018, 10:12:21 am

I dont see a helluva advantage to what I already have which all in cost about 35k, with reg docs etc??

The L will probably have larger oil capacity and longer service intervals (and less power)

Altie7deLaan · « **Reply #61 on:** May 24, 2018, 10:25:53 am »

Quote from: teebag on May 24, 2018, 08:40:10 am

32k rebuild 1k oil changes

No thanks.
Then ill take a road worthy wr or crf.

Motties · « **Reply #62 on:** May 24, 2018, 10:26:48 am »

Quote from: edgy on May 24, 2018, 10:12:21 am

I dont see a helluva advantage to what I already have which all in cost about 35k, with reg docs etc??

Miss my 450X. Is that front mudguard off a Husky? Nice modern look compared to the original.

edgy · « **Reply #63 on:** May 24, 2018, 10:27:44 am »

Think a KTM200

Fuzzy Muzzy · « **Reply #64 on:** May 24, 2018, 10:36:00 am »

Quote from: Cracker on May 24, 2018, 08:32:59 am

I see a sub-frame that will carry zero luggage on the L. A cush -sprocket is lekker, until you gotta replace.

Not sure about slabbing it with this type of bike but if you use a trailer to get close to your riding areas, like I did back in the KLR days, it'll work.

But for a few negatives, I think it's a great idea.

Have you seen the subframes of the current 450x.. and amazingly luggage gets carried on it

Fuzzy Muzzy · « **Reply #65 on:** May 24, 2018, 10:40:16 am »

Quote from: edgy on May 24, 2018, 10:12:21 am

I dont see a helluva advantage to what I already have which all in cost about 35k, with reg docs etc??

Sorry .. how often are you changing that oil? 15 hours.. how often are you doing valve clearances? probably 20 - 25 hours

Come now dude.. look at the bike being offered.

edgy · « **Reply #66 on:** May 24, 2018, 10:41:46 am »

Luggage no issues

BiG DoM · « **Reply #67 on:** May 24, 2018, 10:45:11 am »

Quote from: Fuzzy Muzzy on May 24, 2018, 10:36:00 am

Quote from: Cracker on May 24, 2018, 08:32:59 am
I see a sub-frame that will carry zero luggage on the L. A cush -sprocket is lekker, until you gotta replace.

Not sure about slabbing it with this type of bike but if you use a trailer to get close to your riding areas, like I did back in the KLR days, it'll work.

But for a few negatives, I think it's a great idea.

Have you seen the subframes of the current 450x.. and amazingly luggage gets carried on it

Have you seen the changes to the new 450R frame and subframe to save further weight? Will not carry a lunchbox

zacapa · « **Reply #68 on:** May 24, 2018, 10:47:51 am »

Seems like a great replacement for my XR400R - at a Price!!
As for the 32000 km first major service, the way I understand is for a major strip-down so probably including piston, rings, valves etc. - major $ then.

Dwerg · « **Reply #69 on:** May 24, 2018, 10:48:17 am »

Quote from: edgy on May 24, 2018, 10:12:21 am

I dont see a helluva advantage to what I already have which all in cost about 35k, with reg docs etc??

And you don't have to deal with Honda agents. Buddy of ours is having a nightmare with his brand new AT

Fuzzy Muzzy · « **Reply #70 on:** May 24, 2018, 11:13:50 am »

Quote from: Dwerg on May 24, 2018, 10:48:17 am

Quote from: edgy on May 24, 2018, 10:12:21 am
I dont see a helluva advantage to what I already have which all in cost about 35k, with reg docs etc??

And you don't have to deal with Honda agents. Buddy of ours is having a nightmare with his brand new AT

I was waiting for the Honda Agent comment.. I have a friend who has a problem with BMW agents and his new GS.. whats the point?

People buy bikes based on what they will use them for.. if everyone didnt buy bikes because of agents no bikes would get sold.

Mapog · « **Reply #71 on:** May 24, 2018, 11:17:52 am »

Plastics are notorious for their poor resale value, I cant help but wonder what the case will be with the L.
Would the market see it more like and DR/XR type of bike, or will it be the same as the enduro/crossers?

Dwerg · « **Reply #72 on:** May 24, 2018, 11:22:38 am »

Quote from: Fuzzy Muzzy on May 24, 2018, 11:13:50 am

Quote from: Dwerg on May 24, 2018, 10:48:17 am
Quote from: edgy on May 24, 2018, 10:12:21 am
I dont see a helluva advantage to what I already have which all in cost about 35k, with reg docs etc??

And you don't have to deal with Honda agents. Buddy of ours is having a nightmare with his brand new AT

I was waiting for the Honda Agent comment.. I have a friend who has a problem with BMW agents and his new GS.. whats the point?

People buy bikes based on what they will use them for.. if everyone didnt buy bikes because of agents no bikes would get sold.

Honda even managed to screw up my test ride at SA bike fest. I am a solid Honda fan but I'll buy out of warrantee

Bwana · « **Reply #73 on:** May 24, 2018, 11:34:46 am »

Hi Edgy I would like to know how you got that bike through roadworthy. Also the new 450l has balancing shafts for less vibration and long 6 gear for cruising..

XRRX · « **Reply #74 on:** May 24, 2018, 11:35:25 am »

You just can't get everybody happy - especially if they refused to be "impressed" by anything other than their favourite brand ...

I belief this bike is going to be a winner - it is supposedly what everybody

was asking for all the time - now all the excuses!!

Personally I always have great expectations in terms of quality & reliability of any Honda product!! Do they make mistakes - seldom - but they do .... my AT "shock wear" complaint thread... But they also usually fix their mistakes quickly! ...albeit not always admitting to it!

Great outcome to "that thread" is all the admissions of imperfections/problems on KTM's (and other) all hyped WP suspension - and I always thought they were so great - at least suspension wise ...

Nevertheless, Honda seems serious about the DS market at last - great times!!!

BiG DoM · « **Reply #75 on:** May 24, 2018, 11:38:22 am »

Quote from: Bwana on May 24, 2018, 11:34:46 am

Hi Edgy I would like to know how you got that bike through roadworthy. Also the new 450l has balancing shafts for less vibration and long 6 gear for cruising..

A 450 cruising - now that is funny

BiG DoM · « **Reply #76 on:** May 24, 2018, 11:42:31 am »

Quote from: Bwana on May 24, 2018, 11:34:46 am

Hi Edgy I would like to know how you got that bike through roadworthy. Also the new 450l has balancing shafts for less vibration and long 6 gear for cruising..

Hey we live in the Wild East

Omninorm · « **Reply #77 on:** May 24, 2018, 11:48:24 am »

Quote from: DCR on May 24, 2018, 05:39:58 am

This is promising! Hopefully the first of many, but knowing Honda the potentially high price might the end up positioning it against the 690/701.

Indeed, but i must say, even though I think it's ugly as hell compared to a 690/701 I will definitely consider something like this depending on the weight and price of course.

This might just be the holy grail MANY MANY have been waiting for. 450 lightweight thumper, modern 6 speed and reliable without MX service intervals. I'd buy it. WilI replace my 690 for it. I highly doubt it. My bet is this 450 will be porkier than the 690.

But this is the first thing from Honda that truly excites me in ....well...forever.

Gérrard · « **Reply #78 on:** May 24, 2018, 11:49:22 am »

Looks like a very nice useful bike. Dry weight on a 650 is around 170kg. Kit it out and you sit with a 200kg bike. Kit this bike out for touring and you have 160kg bike. I can use that.

blauth · « **Reply #79 on:** May 24, 2018, 11:50:32 am »

So, what we have here is a DRZ400 with FI, six gears and a cush drive. Granted, these innovations are welcome additions that will be key differentiaters to the DRZ but I think I'm being kind in the use of the word 'innovation'.

DRZ is still available in Oz. I can't think of any other 'long service interval' bikes that compete in this segment. Anyone else know of anything else available?