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Offline mattrat01

Lesotho road type/condition
« on: June 08, 2018, 05:19:26 pm »
HI all,
In the planning stages of our first multi-day trip and we are keen to do Lesotho. I'd say our technical ability on bikes is not amazing so we'd like ot stick to tar but all some jeep track with maybe a couple river crossings.
Could anyone give some advice/recommendations on the route I've planned out below. We don't want to be in Lesotho for more than 2 nights.
At this point we plan to stay at the top of Sani pass and then at Katse Lodge, from there we'll go out at Ficksburg and stay at Clarens. Does this sound reasonable? Will we find some dirt mild dirt on those roads?
Any other recommendations?
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Re: Lesotho road type/condition
« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2018, 04:42:31 pm »
Mattrat01,  the last bit of your route to Katse (purple line) is technical.

There are 2 other better gravel options, the green line or the yellow line.
Your track from Katse to Fouriesburg (red line) is perfect, a tar road.
Remember to do the damwall tour at 9am, very very interesting.

Find attached the gpx file with tracks and fuel points.

Lots of info about Lesotho re accomodation, routes and fuel points here:
   http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=222616.0
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Re: Lesotho road type/condition
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2018, 06:30:24 pm »
Thanks so much for the info Losper!

I think we'll probably head along the yellow route.
Regarding the red line and it being great tar, is there an alternative for some more dirt as opposed to tar? Even if it means completely changing the way we would get to Ficksburg? Potentially even an extra nigh tin Lesotho..?
I really appreciate your advice. Thanks
 

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Re: Lesotho road type/condition
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2018, 10:07:34 pm »
Mattrat04,  if you really want to add value to your trip then seriously consider visiting the 182m high Maletsunyane waterfall at Semonkong. Stay over at the Semonkong Lodge, they have got an awesome restaurant and bar.
From Katse take the gravel green-line via Thaba Theka south past Sehonghong and down Matebeng pass then via Sehelabathebe national park and Qacha towords Semonkong. If you dont want to do Matebeng pass (slightly technical and time consuming but totally worth it) then take the blue-line short cut.
The south of Lesotho is the most scenic area of Lesotho.
Then the next day take the red-line tar road or the yellow-line gravel road to Clarens.
See below pictures of the Maletsunyane waterfall and Seforong gorge.

Alternatively you can take the purple-line from Katse north via Kao-mine and Afriski over Monantsa pass, this is a combination gravel and tar road.
Let me know your plans and I will send you the detailed gpx files.
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Re: Lesotho road type/condition
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2018, 07:28:12 pm »
Awesome! Thanks so much Losper :-)

After your first response, we changed our route to go along the purple line as you suggested above, this with the thought that we could ride more gravel.
I think it'll be good to mention that it'll be 2 riders, followed by a Jeep Wrangler that'll be carrying tenting equipment/supplies (trailer). We aren't sure if we are going to camp yet, but having a vehicle there means we just have to consider our route selection.

With that in mind, we'd like to stick to as much gravel as possible, but keeping away from stuff that'll require us to get off our bikes.
It looks like, after your latest message, we are all leaning towards going via Semonkong and the to Clarens via the red line. Will the Jeep handle this fine?
 

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Re: Lesotho road type/condition
« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2018, 07:44:36 pm »
Yes the jeep wil be fine, I suggest the jeep take the blue shortcut by cutting out Matebeng pass.
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Re: Lesotho road type/condition
« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2018, 07:59:30 pm »
Thanks for all the help Losper! Really appreciate it.
 

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Re: Lesotho road type/condition
« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2018, 08:18:14 pm »
Loser, do you possibly have GPX file with fuel locations available? I can then maybe add it to my Google maps file.

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Re: Lesotho road type/condition
« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2018, 10:00:58 pm »
Ok so you are not doing Semonkong anymore.
It is important for the Jeep to take the green route from Sani to Katse.
Find attached the gpx files as well as the fuel file attached.

Take a lot of R10 and R20 notes with you, it makes it so much easier when paying for something in Lesotho because getting the correct change is sometimes a problem.
Leave early every morning,  the routes are gonna take time.

Please go to this thread and check it out, you will find valuable information regarding Lesotho there, fuel, accomodation, etc, etc
http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=222616.0

Make sure the trailer has a strong chassis, they usually get damaged on Lesotho's roads
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Re: Lesotho road type/condition
« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2018, 10:35:39 pm »
Thanks once again.
Ive read the thread regarding valuable information for Lesotho travels. I found it extremely informative. Thanks!
We are not yet sure if we are going to go to Semonkong, but it is possible. The waterfall may have sold us.

Your advice and knowledge is priceless, thanks.
Thanks for all attached files

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Re: Lesotho road type/condition
« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2018, 11:04:25 pm »
Mattrat01,  here are the other tracks:

Blue:           Katse to Qacha fuel     226km   gravel (I have cut out Matebeng pass in order to make it accessible for the Jeep)
Purple:        Qacha to Semonkong lodge 113km   tar
Turquoise:   Semonkong lodge to Waterfall 13km  gravel 
Red:            Semonkong waterfall to Clarens  292km  tar
(There are also 2x gravel options from Semonkong to Clarens, I will post them next week because I am going to check one of them out tommorrow)

Find attached the gpx file
 

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Re: Lesotho road type/condition
« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2018, 10:31:34 am »
Okay, thanks again!

My plan at this point is to put 2 options together. The first being the one I have linked below. The second, I'm going to wait for you to let me know how the gravel is for the Jeep between Semonkong and Clarens? We'd like to do as much gravel as possible, even if some sections do get SLIGHTY technical...
The first option has us staying 1 night is Lesotho at Katse and the second option will have us staying 2 nights in Lesotho (Katse and Semonkong)

We haven't found an exact date for the trip yet, but it will most likely be early next year (I know that is far, but this is our first multi-day, so we are trying to just wrap our head around this.)
You have been an awesome help in that regard!

Option 1: https://drive.google.com/open?id=154E3KNGsDe5qIcXY1jjhTd6CNWANxcLx&usp=sharing
Option 2: Will post when complete

You will see I have left this fuel points in that you provided. 
 

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Re: Lesotho road type/condition
« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2018, 11:35:10 am »
Mattrat01,  I see that you gonna exit Lesotho at Fouriesburg, that means you are cutting out the stunning gravel road that exit Lesotho at Monantsa.
The Monantsa section is really worth doing.
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Re: Lesotho road type/condition
« Reply #13 on: June 23, 2018, 11:44:39 am »
Okay, I forgot about that section. I'll add it in

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