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Re: AJP model PR7 - coming to SA
« Reply #20 on: July 05, 2018, 04:01:10 pm »
It's the 610 Husqvarna  / SWM motor they are using. On the Husky it was actually a 570cc, maybe it got bored out on this AJP who knows.

Its the Husky twin cam 630 motor not the single cam 610 motor, Im not sure but I think it is 600cc.
You are right, went from 570 to 600cc it seems.

SWM calls it a 650 also but it is definitely 600cc.
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Re: AJP model PR7 - coming to SA
« Reply #21 on: July 05, 2018, 07:14:00 pm »
Yip you guys are correct, 600cc motor out of a Husky TE630
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Re: AJP model PR7 - coming to SA
« Reply #22 on: July 05, 2018, 07:15:46 pm »
It will come into SA, sell some models, and depart, leaving owners with a very much de-valued bike.

If there were a market beyond us dreamers for these bikes, Yamaha, Honda, KTM, etc would have had it here already.

Oom two smoke. Why are you saying this? All those big names are actually busy bringing in smaller/lighter bikes. Why will they just hit and run?

I like this Porra scooter hence my questions....Obregado! O0
 

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Re: AJP model PR7 - coming to SA
« Reply #23 on: July 05, 2018, 07:17:16 pm »
Yip you guys are correct, 600cc motor out of a Husky TE630

Is this  a good or bad thing Straatkat?
 

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Re: AJP model PR7 - coming to SA
« Reply #24 on: July 05, 2018, 07:50:20 pm »
It will come into SA, sell some models, and depart, leaving owners with a very much de-valued bike.

If there were a market beyond us dreamers for these bikes, Yamaha, Honda, KTM, etc would have had it here already.

Oom two smoke. Why are you saying this? All those big names are actually busy bringing in smaller/lighter bikes. Why will they just hit and run?

I like this Porra scooter hence my questions....Obregado! O0

 :thumleft:  Who is going to bring them in? Who is going to back parts, repairs, warranty, etc?  How long can they secure that engine for this bike?
 
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Re: AJP model PR7 - coming to SA
« Reply #25 on: July 05, 2018, 08:02:48 pm »
What  beautiful machine and with plenty "extras" that come standard.
Sadly,I thin 2-stroke dan is right,it will come in and wont hang around for that long.
Guys are pretty brand loyal and to change to another smaller brand that may not have the back up and service that the bigger brands do,will be a big ask.
Reallly would love to take this bike for a ride and hope I am wrong about its longevity in our small market
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Re: AJP model PR7 - coming to SA
« Reply #26 on: July 07, 2018, 10:38:44 pm »
It will come into SA, sell some models, and depart, leaving owners with a very much de-valued bike.

If there were a market beyond us dreamers for these bikes, Yamaha, Honda, KTM, etc would have had it here already.
I would buy that devalued bike !
and when something breaks? :'(

EBay will always have parts, cheaper than dealers can afford to keep stock.
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AJP model PR7 - coming to SA
« Reply #27 on: July 08, 2018, 01:21:32 pm »
Not a fan of the low slung pipe. I understand it helps improve fuel tank size but that thing is going to take a beatig. Well in my hands anyway because I fall a lot. Still like to take one for a ride but it will take a lot to get me to trade my 690
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Re: AJP model PR7 - coming to SA
« Reply #28 on: July 08, 2018, 08:25:42 pm »
Not a fan of the low slung pipe. I understand it helps improve fuel tank size but that thing is going to take a beatig. Well in my hands anyway because I fall a lot. Still like to take one for a ride but it will take a lot to get me to trade my 690
Australian reviewer said the pipe is the first thing to snag / scrape in ruts and difficult terrain,  not ideal
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Re: AJP model PR7 - coming to SA
« Reply #29 on: July 08, 2018, 10:43:25 pm »
Yip you guys are correct, 600cc motor out of a Husky TE630

Is this  a good or bad thing Straatkat?


The Husky motor is a good choice, lots of low down torque, and good power.
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Re: AJP model PR7 - coming to SA
« Reply #30 on: July 08, 2018, 11:06:05 pm »
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Re: AJP model PR7 - coming to SA
« Reply #31 on: July 09, 2018, 07:01:24 am »
think there are more important parts to worry about, the suspension is SACHS, anybody know more details about whether this is quality? must say.. this seems like the first bike available where people really listened to adv biking community. I for one hope that AJP sells bucket loads, and that other mayor mfg's notice

under seat fuel tank is nice, wonder how it handles. IMO they could have gone old school with the dash, no need for fancy TFT, the bike has FI, but otherwise its old school.
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Re: AJP model PR7 - coming to SA
« Reply #32 on: July 09, 2018, 07:22:18 am »

 :thumleft:  Who is going to bring them in? Who is going to back parts, repairs, warranty, etc?  How long can they secure that engine for this bike?

Too true , the people on this forum bitch and complain about bad service , waiting for spares etc .... what will it be like when there is no importer around and a small part failure means a cancelled trip , that small part that a larger importer would have had in stock , or when everything has to be imported , suddenly the bike becomes a pain in the ass .
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Re: AJP model PR7 - coming to SA
« Reply #33 on: July 09, 2018, 09:01:54 am »
think there are more important parts to worry about, the suspension is SACHS, anybody know more details about whether this is quality? must say.. this seems like the first bike available where people really listened to adv biking community. I for one hope that AJP sells bucket loads, and that other mayor mfg's notice

under seat fuel tank is nice, wonder how it handles. IMO they could have gone old school with the dash, no need for fancy TFT, the bike has FI, but otherwise its old school.
Nothing wrong with SACHS, been on Italian and German bikes for some time. The rear shock on my 610 was a SACHS unit and it performed great with loads of travel and adjustment.
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Re: AJP model PR7 - coming to SA
« Reply #34 on: July 09, 2018, 09:03:06 am »
I believe this will not be a difficult bike to maintain oneself which is what I have done with all my bikes anyway. If you can get parts online at least I don't see a problem.
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Re: AJP model PR7 - coming to SA
« Reply #35 on: July 09, 2018, 09:25:16 am »
think there are more important parts to worry about, the suspension is SACHS, anybody know more details about whether this is quality? must say.. this seems like the first bike available where people really listened to adv biking community. I for one hope that AJP sells bucket loads, and that other mayor mfg's notice

under seat fuel tank is nice, wonder how it handles. IMO they could have gone old school with the dash, no need for fancy TFT, the bike has FI, but otherwise its old school.
Nothing wrong with SACHS, been on Italian and German bikes for some time. The rear shock on my 610 was a SACHS unit and it performed great with loads of travel and adjustment.

I was more referring to the specific SACHS shocks used, as this is a bike on a budget, its difficult to believe they used top notch suspension comonents
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Re: AJP model PR7 - coming to SA
« Reply #36 on: July 09, 2018, 09:49:33 am »
we should start a poll, if you could choose between this and a brand new KTM 690R,  which would you choose. both  about same price
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Re: AJP model PR7 - coming to SA
« Reply #37 on: July 09, 2018, 10:01:00 am »
think there are more important parts to worry about, the suspension is SACHS, anybody know more details about whether this is quality? must say.. this seems like the first bike available where people really listened to adv biking community. I for one hope that AJP sells bucket loads, and that other mayor mfg's notice

under seat fuel tank is nice, wonder how it handles. IMO they could have gone old school with the dash, no need for fancy TFT, the bike has FI, but otherwise its old school.
Nothing wrong with SACHS, been on Italian and German bikes for some time. The rear shock on my 610 was a SACHS unit and it performed great with loads of travel and adjustment.

I was more referring to the specific SACHS shocks used, as this is a bike on a budget, its difficult to believe they used top notch suspension comonents
REAR SUSPENSION: Sachs with piggyback reservoir – linkage type – 11.8″ of travel – high- and low -speed compression, rebound and preload adjustable
FRONT SUSPENSION: Sachs USD 48mm – 11.8 inches travel – compression and rebound adjustable

Believe me will be more than enough for 99% of us adventure riders / racers ! I currently ride a bike with no adjustment possible and it manages ok.
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Re: AJP model PR7 - coming to SA
« Reply #38 on: July 09, 2018, 10:05:26 am »

 :thumleft:  Who is going to bring them in? Who is going to back parts, repairs, warranty, etc?  How long can they secure that engine for this bike?

Too true , the people on this forum bitch and complain about bad service , waiting for spares etc .... what will it be like when there is no importer around and a small part failure means a cancelled trip , that small part that a larger importer would have had in stock , or when everything has to be imported , suddenly the bike becomes a pain in the ass .

What if a bigger company brings them in, for example Kawasaki/Suzuki/Cayenne, etc?
 

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Re: AJP model PR7 - coming to SA
« Reply #39 on: July 09, 2018, 10:09:43 am »
think there are more important parts to worry about, the suspension is SACHS, anybody know more details about whether this is quality? must say.. this seems like the first bike available where people really listened to adv biking community. I for one hope that AJP sells bucket loads, and that other mayor mfg's notice

under seat fuel tank is nice, wonder how it handles. IMO they could have gone old school with the dash, no need for fancy TFT, the bike has FI, but otherwise its old school.
Nothing wrong with SACHS, been on Italian and German bikes for some time. The rear shock on my 610 was a SACHS unit and it performed great with loads of travel and adjustment.

I was more referring to the specific SACHS shocks used, as this is a bike on a budget, its difficult to believe they used top notch suspension comonents

Forgive me if I laugh, but any R1150GS rider worried about top quality suspension, makes me smile Chris.  ;) :thumleft:
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