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F800GS 80 000km maintenance
« on: July 20, 2018, 10:34:45 am »
So, my 2013 F8GS reached 80 000 km yesterday.  As I owned it from new, and I did the servicing myself, I know what was done to it.

Mine is a commuting tool for the most part, I have a 76km round trip per day.

Oil:  every 10 000 km.  I use whatever 15W40 diesel oil that is on special at the co-op.  No top-op oil ever needed.
Oil filters:  From 20 000 km only every 2nd oil change.
Air filter:  Uni foam filter from new.  It actually came out of a 2011 R12GSA
Bulbs:  2 dim 1 bright
Sparkplugs: 65 000 km
Chains Sprockets: 3 sets - got about 18k km on OEM set, about 25k km on DID chain and Motrix sprockets
Fuel: 4.7 l/100km
Tyres: lots, but I tend to buy used ones at a friend's shop :lol8:
Clutch: original, but getting ready to replace
Brakes:  (R)  on the 3rd read set of pads.  The Rear Rotor will need replacement soon as its at the wear limit
              (F)  original discs, but I have ordered 2 sets of pads for fitment in the next 1000 km
Suspension:  Forks:  new fork oil at 45000 km, new oil seals and oil at 75k km.  Dust seals and all bushes still original
                      Shock:  unopened, never serviced.  Heim joint original
Wheel Bearings: Original
Steering Bearings:  Replaced at 40 k km.  Bearing man off the shelf.
Injector Cleaning:  84 000 km
Valve Adjust: 87 400 km

And that is it.  Makes for a very economical commuter:  like a Fiat Uno :snorting:
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Re: F800GS 80 000km maintenance
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2018, 10:55:10 am »
Great bikes - seriously underrated.  Still reckon it's the best machine from Bavaria.  I would be interested to hear what the stator looks like considering the earlier models were renowned for burning theirs.  Thanks for sharing.
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Re: F800GS 80 000km maintenance
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2018, 10:58:03 am »
Fantastic bikes. I also think the F800 is the best all round bike they have built.
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Re: F800GS 80 000km maintenance
« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2018, 11:44:32 am »
The 800 is a reliable and ceconomical workhorse,  by anyone's standards.
Specific reason why you use a 15w40 "diesel" oil, meneer?
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Re: F800GS 80 000km maintenance
« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2018, 12:25:32 pm »
The 800 is a reliable and ceconomical workhorse,  by anyone's standards.
Specific reason why you use a 15w40 "diesel" oil, meneer?
Because the Ko Op always have it :deal:
BMW Cape Town used Total 15W40 and 20w50 for a while after BM decided Castrol is the worst oil you can use in a bike.
Most Ko Ops have Total 15W40 which is a very good oil if you look at the specs.
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Re: F800GS 80 000km maintenance
« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2018, 12:31:14 pm »
The 800 is a reliable and ceconomical workhorse,  by anyone's standards.
Specific reason why you use a 15w40 "diesel" oil, meneer?
Because the Ko Op always have it :deal:
BMW Cape Town used Total 15W40 and 20w50 for a while after BM decided Castrol is the worst oil you can use in a bike.
Most Ko Ops have Total 15W40 which is a very good oil if you look at the specs.

This.  And its cheap.  I can buy Total at R190 for 5 litres at Kaap Agri.  I use it in my CRF450X and 690 as well unless I specifically needed the extra life provided by a synthetic for a longer race, like Amageza.  I've never seen the 15W40 oils to be obviously stuffed by 10 000 km.  Maybe the Rotax motor works kindly with oil.
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Re: F800GS 80 000km maintenance
« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2018, 12:46:09 pm »
The 800 is a reliable and ceconomical workhorse,  by anyone's standards.
Specific reason why you use a 15w40 "diesel" oil, meneer?
Because the Ko Op always have it :deal:
BMW Cape Town used Total 15W40 and 20w50 for a while after BM decided Castrol is the worst oil you can use in a bike.
Most Ko Ops have Total 15W40 which is a very good oil if you look at the specs.


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Re: F800GS 80 000km maintenance
« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2018, 03:49:08 pm »
My mates 2009 gs 800 is close to KM 110 000. Replaced the stator once. Head bearings, tyres, chain and sprockets and timing chain . last service he had the valve stem seals replaced as a precaution. He showes no love to that bike and I'm not exaggerating when I say that bike only sees attention and a wash at services. Rides the bike hard and yet she is happy.
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Re: F800GS 80 000km maintenance
« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2018, 04:32:49 pm »
My 2011 800 is on 151000 Km now. I have been servicing it myself from 70000Km I replaced rear wheel bearings twice. The stator burned out  a few months out of warrantee. BMW did not want to help so I decided to have it rewound the rewounds only lasted between 10 and 15000 km's depending on how hard I rode it I had it rewound 3 times untill I bought a almost new stator from Moondog when he stripped his bike

The fuelpump packed up twice, the 1st time at 25000km which was replaced under warranty and the second time at around 80000km. I then replaced the pump with a aftermarket generic opel GSI/golf GTI pump.

I also replaced the front discs at 13000 km as they were warn out around the free floating rings and made a huge rattling noise. The discs itself were still good. My clutch cable is now on the maximum adjustment so I will have to replace the clutch in the near future.

I am extremely happy with my 800 and really dont know what to replace it with. This is my second 800 and I do not really want to buy a third.
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Re: F800GS 80 000km maintenance
« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2018, 05:24:21 pm »
So, my 2013 F8GS reached 80 000 km yesterday.  As I owned it from new, and I did the servicing myself, I know what was done to it.

Mine is a commuting tool for the most part, I have a 76km round trip per day.

Oil:  every 10 000 km.  I use whatever 15W40 diesel oil that is on special at the co-op.  No top-op oil ever needed.
Oil filters:  From 20 000 km only every 2nd oil change.
Air filter:  Uni foam filter from new.  It actually came out of a 2011 R12GSA
Bulbs:  2 dim 1 bright
Sparkplugs: 65 000 km
Chains Sprockets: 3 sets - got about 18k km on OEM set, about 25k km on DID chain and Motrix sprockets
Fuel: 4.7 l/100km
Tyres: lots, but I tend to buy used ones at a friend's shop :lol8:
Clutch: original, but getting ready to replace
Brakes:  (R)  on the 3rd read set of pads.  The Rear Rotor will need replacement soon as its at the wear limit
              (F)  original discs, but I have ordered 2 sets of pads for fitment in the next 1000 km
Suspension:  Forks:  new fork oil at 45000 km, new oil seals and oil at 75k km.  Dust seals and all bushes still original
                      Shock:  unopened, never serviced.  Heim joint original
Wheel Bearings: Original
Steering Bearings:  Replaced at 40 k km.  Bearing man off the shelf.

And that is it.  Makes for a very economical commuter:  like a Fiat Uno :snorting:

Thanks for all the info. :thumleft: :thumleft:

I too have invested into doing my own servicing on my 800GS as well....as I am not only saving money but also very importantly IMHO is the knowledge I'm gaining on getting to know my scooter better. I have also invested in my own GS911 WiFi device which not only enables me to help both myself when/if i need to clear any fault codes or do fault finding....but also able to help others as well, just as I have done on quite a few occasions. Then there's the added functionality of owning a device....in that I am now able to get into all the "service related" settings too & service reminders.

One thing I've been very happy about, while doing my scooter's "valve clearance check/inspection" (which is every 20 000km)...is that it has stayed pretty much very nicely right in the middle of spec. :thumleft: :thumleft:

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Re: F800GS 80 000km maintenance
« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2018, 05:29:43 pm »
My 2011 800 is on 151000 Km now. I have been servicing it myself from 70000Km I replaced rear wheel bearings twice. The stator burned out  a few months out of warrantee. BMW did not want to help so I decided to have it rewound the rewounds only lasted between 10 and 15000 km's depending on how hard I rode it I had it rewound 3 times untill I bought a almost new stator from Moondog when he stripped his bike

The fuelpump packed up twice, the 1st time at 25000km which was replaced under warranty and the second time at around 80000km. I then replaced the pump with a aftermarket generic opel GSI/golf GTI pump.

I also replaced the front discs at 13000 km as they were warn out around the free floating rings and made a huge rattling noise. The discs itself were still good. My clutch cable is now on the maximum adjustment so I will have to replace the clutch in the near future.

I am extremely happy with my 800 and really dont know what to replace it with. This is my second 800 and I do not really want to buy a third.

W.R.T. the "Fuel Pump & Filter" issue on the 800......check out this link for what i did on my scooter to sort out the issue once & for all.

http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=200919.msg3762423#msg3762423
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Re: F800GS 80 000km maintenance
« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2018, 11:28:44 pm »
Thats pretty damn impressive. I wish I had seen your thread in 2014 Bring it on. Jy is a slim mannetjie!  :thumleft:

I never had the patience, but that was basically the only real gripe I had with my old 2008 800GS. Sold it when Ieft Peru though :(
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Re: F800GS 80 000km maintenance
« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2018, 09:41:27 am »
A bit of a hijack, maybe, but you guys should be able to assist here.

A friend of mine is keen on buying an adventure bike, after decades of never riding anything big. He's sort of narrowed his choices down to a late model 990 or 800, which would have to be financed. An 08 onwards, I guess ............. and it has to be pillion friendly  ::)

Naturally he's leaning more to the 990 coz it's a superior bike all round (my words, of course) and I can't really tell him not to buy one. But he's got 2 left thumbs, no garage and no tools, so his ability to repair/maintain any bike is limited. Buying a KTM can be risky  :peepwall:

So, I'm inclined to to tell him to buy an 800 instead, which, I'm led to believe, has no major issues. Am I right? And if so, which model/year should he steer clear of?

I remember those stories about lewensgevaarlik from years ago but other than that, I've no knowledge of these bikes whatsoever. 

And I don't wanna get into a debate with him about which other bikes are good, it's not my choice, it's his.
 
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Re: F800GS 80 000km maintenance
« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2018, 07:12:31 pm »
My 2011 800 is on 151000 Km now. I have been servicing it myself from 70000Km I replaced rear wheel bearings twice. The stator burned out  a few months out of warrantee. BMW did not want to help so I decided to have it rewound the rewounds only lasted between 10 and 15000 km's depending on how hard I rode it I had it rewound 3 times untill I bought a almost new stator from Moondog when he stripped his bike

The fuelpump packed up twice, the 1st time at 25000km which was replaced under warranty and the second time at around 80000km. I then replaced the pump with a aftermarket generic opel GSI/golf GTI pump.

I also replaced the front discs at 13000 km as they were warn out around the free floating rings and made a huge rattling noise. The discs itself were still good. My clutch cable is now on the maximum adjustment so I will have to replace the clutch in the near future.

I am extremely happy with my 800 and really dont know what to replace it with. This is my second 800 and I do not really want to buy a third.

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Re: F800GS 80 000km maintenance
« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2018, 08:00:56 pm »
A bit of a hijack, maybe, but you guys should be able to assist here.

A friend of mine is keen on buying an adventure bike, after decades of never riding anything big. He's sort of narrowed his choices down to a late model 990 or 800, which would have to be financed. An 08 onwards, I guess ............. and it has to be pillion friendly  ::)

Naturally he's leaning more to the 990 coz it's a superior bike all round (my words, of course) and I can't really tell him not to buy one. But he's got 2 left thumbs, no garage and no tools, so his ability to repair/maintain any bike is limited. Buying a KTM can be risky  :peepwall:

So, I'm inclined to to tell him to buy an 800 instead, which, I'm led to believe, has no major issues. Am I right? And if so, which model/year should he steer clear of?

I remember those stories about lewensgevaarlik from years ago but other than that, I've no knowledge of these bikes whatsoever. 

And I don't wanna get into a debate with him about which other bikes are good, it's not my choice, it's his.

For adventure riding, I'd actually prefer a nice 990.  I think the F8GS is a bit choppered out with too little weight on the front for ultimate front grip on dirt.  But as an all-rounder, its a really good choice.  The 2013-on models got the WP forks, which sorted most of the obscene handling issues.  Maybe he could consider a 660 Tenere as well.  Unless he needs to do high speed tar work.
 

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Re: F800GS 80 000km maintenance
« Reply #15 on: July 22, 2018, 01:41:07 am »
Cracker, I think most of the issues were fixed in various recalls. There were some problem in the 2012 models if I correctly recall but nothing that wont stop anyone from having a good time today.
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« Reply #16 on: July 23, 2018, 07:51:18 am »
Thanks, lads  :thumleft:
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Re: F800GS 80 000km maintenance
« Reply #17 on: November 14, 2018, 09:10:22 am »
At about 84 000 km I decided to pull and clean the injectors.  I could see some evidence of a small leak below the right injector and annoying tick sound from there.  While I was pretty sure it was a loose valve clearance,  it is pretty difficult to get the time to do a valve adjustment, as you cannot buy a shim kit for it.  I have shim kits for KTM 990, 690, 500, 450, 350, 250 and Honda 150 - 450 at home.  To do the shims I need to strip, measure, order and wait.  I'm figuring on a week of down time.  The F800GS is my primary transport and I do about 75km per day on it.  So, injector cleaning.
 

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« Reply #18 on: November 14, 2018, 09:11:43 am »
All the O-rings were good, although there was a piece of dust on the outside of 1
 

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Re: F800GS 80 000km maintenance
« Reply #19 on: November 14, 2018, 09:12:56 am »
I bought this tester for injectors.  The main function I wanted is that it could pulse an injector indefinitely.  I had a KTM 690 in with a hard starting issue a while ago.  I determined that it was bleeding off fuel pressure after shutdown.  After a bit I found that the injector was dribbling a bit of fuel after shut off.  I had to manually pulse that injector for 2 hours to clear the bit keeping the solenoid open.  I figured never again and bought this of eBay.
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