Author Topic: CRF250L or CRF 250 Rally suspension (Read 1854 times)

superfoxi · « **Reply #20 on:** November 01, 2018, 09:03:24 am »

Quote from: blauth on November 01, 2018, 06:56:25 am

Would someone please help SuperFoxi develop the rear shock from the std shock.

You okes are all wanting to dump big mulla where right on your door step is an option that would cost only a few Rands.

I'm getting a Rally in for suspension next week...

RallyMan · « **Reply #21 on:** November 01, 2018, 09:21:02 am »

great news

Robin Brown · « **Reply #22 on:** November 01, 2018, 09:25:05 am »

Once superfoxi has worked the suspension I will ride it and report back

blauth · « **Reply #23 on:** November 01, 2018, 12:04:59 pm »

Quote from: RallyMan on November 01, 2018, 08:07:05 am

Wilbur also has cheaper solutions

R2500

That must be just for the spring which is not the correct fix for this problem since the shock is both undersprung and underdamped.

SuperFoxi's solution would consist of both Damping enhancement and spring upgrade for marginally more (I don't want to quote exact figures on his behalf). He already has my original shock and is doing R&D on it but needs a volunteer in order to do testing in the bike. He's down in Cape Town I think. I would give him my bike but I'm up in Jhb.

I've put a complete Wilbers shock in my bike and you won't believe the difference.

RallyMan · « **Reply #24 on:** November 01, 2018, 01:56:10 pm »

that is for 1-Front spring upgrade and same price rear spring upgrade

RallyMan · « **Reply #25 on:** November 08, 2018, 12:02:45 pm »

any news ?

Tom van Brits · « **Reply #26 on:** November 10, 2018, 10:52:11 am »

Robin Brown · « **Reply #27 on:** November 19, 2018, 04:24:35 pm »

Well Superfoxi has now turned my Rally into a real good offroad bike. The back shock is now a dream offroad especially on heavily corrugated roads and loose sand and marbles.
It tracks a dream with tool bag and my Giant Loop Coyote luggage.
Greased all the bearings (something the manufactures seem to forego) installed Pro Taper fat bars, risers, strong handguards, luggage rack, Bosson exhaust and opened the snorkel and cut off the backfire plate on the air filter. Will keep paper filters.
Wired up a fused power point and GPS, and fitted Pirelli M21 tyres.
Awaiting an EJK fuel monitor from the US. And having braided brake lines made up.
Ran the bike over 300kms on Sunday. held 110 to 115km/hr and in the S Easter on the way home 103 to 105km/Hr.
Petrol consumption 22 to 23km/litre.
Now done 2 300km and will change oil and filter at 4 000km.

Vis Arend · « **Reply #28 on:** November 19, 2018, 08:29:38 pm »

blauth · « **Reply #29 on:** November 20, 2018, 07:19:01 am »

Quote from: Robin Brown on November 19, 2018, 04:24:35 pm

Well Superfoxi has now turned my Rally into a real good offroad bike. The back shock is now a dream offroad especially on heavily corrugated roads and loose sand and marbles.
It tracks a dream with tool bag and my Giant Loop Coyote luggage.
Greased all the bearings (something the manufactures seem to forego) installed Pro Taper fat bars, risers, strong handguards, luggage rack, Bosson exhaust and opened the snorkel and cut off the backfire plate on the air filter. Will keep paper filters.
Wired up a fused power point and GPS, and fitted Pirelli M21 tyres.
Awaiting an EJK fuel monitor from the US. And having braided brake lines made up.
Ran the bike over 300kms on Sunday. held 110 to 115km/hr and in the S Easter on the way home 103 to 105km/Hr.
Petrol consumption 22 to 23km/litre.
Now done 2 300km and will change oil and filter at 4 000km.

Finally, someone gave SuperFoxi a go with the shock.

Robin, what do you weigh? I'm thinking of getting SuperFoxi to convert my rear shock and then I sell the Wilbers that I put in my Rally. I'm guessing I can recover a few thousand Rand to spend on other accessories then.

Your fuel consumption sounds a little heavy but against a headwind, these little bikes struggle. I'm pushing on about 12000km now. I really like this little bike. For my particular purpose, it's nicer than both the GS800 and Tiger800 that I previously commuted on.

sidetrack · « **Reply #30 on:** November 20, 2018, 09:35:50 am »

Good news on shock but that fuel consumption is heavy

RallyMan · « **Reply #31 on:** November 20, 2018, 11:03:31 am »

Did a Bloemfontein dentist trip yesterday lol 250km round trip, Kept a steady 110-115 one or 2 uphils had me down to 95 but oversall the bike ran lekker with the FMF feels its keeping the speed more constant.

Now just need shocks sorted

Also got stung by a BEE on my damn chest lol

blauth · « **Reply #32 on:** November 20, 2018, 11:52:02 am »

Quote from: RallyMan on November 20, 2018, 11:03:31 am

Did a Bloemfontein dentist trip yesterday lol 250km round trip, Kept a steady 110-115 one or 2 uphils had me down to 95 but oversall the bike ran lekker with the FMF feels its keeping the speed more constant.

Now just need shocks sorted

Also got stung by a BEE on my damn chest lol

It does loosen up. The only time I'm reduced to 95km is when I have a belting headwind.

teebag · « **Reply #33 on:** November 20, 2018, 02:42:19 pm »

Quote from: Robin Brown on November 19, 2018, 04:24:35 pm

Well Superfoxi has now turned my Rally into a real good offroad bike. The back shock is now a dream offroad especially on heavily corrugated roads and loose sand and marbles.

what was done, what is the cost?

Robin Brown · « **Reply #34 on:** November 20, 2018, 02:59:53 pm »

The best is to speak to Superfoxi.

teebag · « **Reply #35 on:** November 20, 2018, 05:18:23 pm »

Quote from: Robin Brown on November 20, 2018, 02:59:53 pm

The best is to speak to Superfoxi.

So what you are saying is, you don't know

Zanie · « **Reply #36 on:** November 20, 2018, 09:02:35 pm »

Quote from: blauth on November 20, 2018, 07:19:01 am

Quote from: Robin Brown on November 19, 2018, 04:24:35 pm
Well Superfoxi has now turned my Rally into a real good offroad bike. The back shock is now a dream offroad especially on heavily corrugated roads and loose sand and marbles.
It tracks a dream with tool bag and my Giant Loop Coyote luggage.
Greased all the bearings (something the manufactures seem to forego) installed Pro Taper fat bars, risers, strong handguards, luggage rack, Bosson exhaust and opened the snorkel and cut off the backfire plate on the air filter. Will keep paper filters.
Wired up a fused power point and GPS, and fitted Pirelli M21 tyres.
Awaiting an EJK fuel monitor from the US. And having braided brake lines made up.
Ran the bike over 300kms on Sunday. held 110 to 115km/hr and in the S Easter on the way home 103 to 105km/Hr.
Petrol consumption 22 to 23km/litre.
Now done 2 300km and will change oil and filter at 4 000km.

Finally, someone gave SuperFoxi a go with the shock.

Robin, what do you weigh? I'm thinking of getting SuperFoxi to convert my rear shock and then I sell the Wilbers that I put in my Rally. I'm guessing I can recover a few thousand Rand to spend on other accessories then.

Your fuel consumption sounds a little heavy but against a headwind, these little bikes struggle. I'm pushing on about 12000km now. I really like this little bike. For my particular purpose, it's nicer than both the GS800 and Tiger800 that I previously commuted on.

I average 3.2 km/100lit (31 km/lit), which means a theoretical maximum range of 310 km/tank. I can get much better fuel consumption: best yet is 2.8 lit/100km (36 km/lit or 357 km/tank max).

But... Ride on highway at 120 km/h and this changes drastically. Throw a headwind into the mix and it makes it even worse. I experienced these conditions on the stretch between Piketberg and Cape Town. My neck was painful stiff afterwards.

I only got 225 km out of that tank (equates to 22-23 km/lit or 4.4 lit/100km). This was not a theoretical maximum, but an actual maximum. I ran out of fuel 1km from a petrol station!

blauth · « **Reply #37 on:** November 21, 2018, 08:43:44 am »

Quote from: teebag on November 20, 2018, 05:18:23 pm

Quote from: Robin Brown on November 20, 2018, 02:59:53 pm
The best is to speak to Superfoxi.

So what you are saying is, you don't know

I think what he's saying is that he doesn't want to quote on behalf of SuperFoxi.....or create expectations.

BlingKing · « **Reply #38 on:** December 05, 2018, 08:21:54 am »

Just looking at the prices paid for the other brands, it would have been better to go for the WILBERS option - cheaper (with the WD discount) for around R9790.00, (R14444.00 with the remote pre-load adjuster) better quality and the prime fact is that the WILBERS is built in Germany to your exact weight/ride specifications, as opposed to one size fits all. They also carry a Five Year Warranty and are re-buildable.
We also do an uprated spring conversion on it but that OEM shock strut in there is very basic and should actually be replaced!

011 234 8161
sales@blingkingbikes.co.za

blauth · « **Reply #39 on:** December 05, 2018, 09:31:01 am »

Quote from: BlingKing on December 05, 2018, 08:21:54 am

Just looking at the prices paid for the other brands, it would have been better to go for the WILBERS option - cheaper (with the WD discount) for around R9790.00, (R14444.00 with the remote pre-load adjuster) better quality and the prime fact is that the WILBERS is built in Germany to your exact weight/ride specifications, as opposed to one size fits all. They also carry a Five Year Warranty and are re-buildable.
We also do an uprated spring conversion on it but that OEM shock strut in there is very basic and should actually be replaced!

011 234 8161
sales@BlingKingbikes.co.za

@BlingKing. I did inquire with you at the time and there was no Wilbers option available for the Rally, only for the CRF250L. Is there one now?

I ended up buying a second hand Wilbers for the XR650L and making an extension to extend the length of the shock to fit it to the Rally. It's not perfect but it's a damn side better than the stock shock.