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« on: October 10, 2018, 09:36:51 am »
Morning all and sundry...

At the risk of getting choked I am apologising in advance as I can believe this has been discussed many times on the forum, but her goes...

What is the basic kit required? Any difference or preferences between the different types of plugs? Where is the best place to purchase the required? Different types of kits for different bikes?

I understand that there are many Vendors on the forum so I am just asking in general...

I am still new to this and saw on our ride on Sunday how important it is to be prepared.

any advice is welcome...

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Re: Tyre repair kits
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2018, 12:02:44 pm »
We stock various kits, we are a long way from you - we ship, but maybe try someone closer first? Offroad Cycles, maybe?


1. regarding PLUGGING a puncture, some things to bear in mind:
if you buy a tubeless repair K-I-T to start with, you get all the tools to START with, as well as the glue and strings/worms/snotties, call them what you will, and only THEN when you use an item (i.e. finished/use it up), then simply replace THAT item only!


2. You MAY want to consider putting a few 'Figure 8's' into a kit that is supplied with strings/worms/snotties; reason being for a LARGER tyre cut, some people find it easier to put multiple (more than one...) Figure 8 into a larger gash as a get-me-home, the technical name is SEALASTIC, from REMA, but most call them figure 8's.

And then, for just R10 small, and R15 large, probably worth carrying just ONE 'gaitor' very useful to have in your kit, its flat, smallish, and works well in TUBED tyres mostly, but a handy bit of kit to KEEP!

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Re: Tyre repair kits
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2018, 05:26:42 pm »
What does a gaitor do?

I've slashed a tyre badly before, that the tube stuck out the hole. I couldn't fix it so just stuffed it with hedges and other vegetation to get me home. Some form of tyre fix woulda helped.
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Re: Tyre repair kits
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2018, 06:08:10 pm »
Last weekend we had a ride where one of the boys front tyre had a bad cut on it in the center.
It was plugged with the various plug options and had to be replugged several times to get him home on a 60 Km ride.
The main problem that recurs as we travelled and plugged repeatedly was that the tear just got bigger every time we stopped to seal the leak.
This caused us to add more plugs to get further down the road.

This problem occurs on those tyres with a softer compound which does not hold the plug and causes more tearing as you try with another plug inserted to seal it.
One option is to fit tyres with a slightly harder compound which when plugged does not tear allowing you to get home safely.
After 240000 Km I have had many punctures and this harder tyre compound that I ride with has saved me countless times after fitting up to
7/8 plugs due to bad cuts.
Choose your tyres carefully and you will get home every time.
Ride with a softer compound and add tubes to your carry kit if you want to get home after a puncture incident where the tyre is cut badly.
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Re: Tyre repair kits
« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2018, 07:00:01 pm »
Last weekend we had a ride where one of the boys front tyre had a bad cut on it in the center.
It was plugged with the various plug options and had to be replugged several times to get him home on a 60 Km ride.
The main problem that recurs as we travelled and plugged repeatedly was that the tear just got bigger every time we stopped to seal the leak.
This caused us to add more plugs to get further down the road.

This problem occurs on those tyres with a softer compound which does not hold the plug and causes more tearing as you try with another plug inserted to seal it.
One option is to fit tyres with a slightly harder compound which when plugged does not tear allowing you to get home safely.
After 240000 Km I have had many punctures and this harder tyre compound that I ride with has saved me countless times after fitting up to
7/8 plugs due to bad cuts.
Choose your tyres carefully and you will get home every time.
Ride with a softer compound and add tubes to your carry kit if you want to get home after a puncture incident where the tyre is cut badly.
Thanks once again for the roadside assistance MR. T


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« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2018, 07:30:08 pm »
Morning all and sundry...

At the risk of getting choked I am apologising in advance as I can believe this has been discussed many times on the forum, but her goes...

What is the basic kit required? Any difference or preferences between the different types of plugs? Where is the best place to purchase the required? Different types of kits for different bikes?

I understand that there are many Vendors on the forum so I am just asking in general...

I am still new to this and saw on our ride on Sunday how important it is to be prepared.

any advice is welcome...

Thanks for not naming and shaming........ :peepwall:


Rudamans in Nelspruit sell a nice tyre repair kit for for tubeless tyres. I do believe that this is sufficient for 99% of punctures on a tubeless tyres.









Sunday was the first time I was not able to fix a puncture roadside. The bike would've ended up on a trailer if it wasn't for @chopper pilot kindly bringing me a tube from Nelspruit.




I've had some nasty cuts before, but somehow always ended up fixing them......









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Re: Tyre repair kits
« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2018, 08:06:42 pm »
What does a gaitor do?

I've slashed a tyre badly before, that the tube stuck out the hole. I couldn't fix it so just stuffed it with hedges and other vegetation to get me home. Some form of tyre fix woulda helped.

Gator is a MOERSE patch that goes on the inside of the TYRE.  Much more successful with tubes as it is also 'pressed' against the tyre. Few types available (also called 'mushrooms' I think)

For me the safest solution EVEN WITH TUBELESS is at least 2 Gators (different sizes) AND a tube.  Pick a size between front and rear size.  Stretch or wrinkle it will get you another 100 odd km home. will even work on a cracked rim.  :pot:

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Re: Tyre repair kits
« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2018, 08:27:51 pm »
Thanks, Adie  :thumleft:

Now what type of shop will sell a gator? Is it a road bike type thing?

My bikes all have tubes but I would like to carry a couple of these if it'll stop the tube coming through a torn tyre.
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« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2018, 09:26:19 pm »
Thanks, Adie  :thumleft:

Now what type of shop will sell a gator? Is it a road bike type thing?

My bikes all have tubes but I would like to carry a couple of these if it'll stop the tube coming through a torn tyre.

Moerse lang link maar gee foto van Rema-TipTop -- dit is al wat ek deesdae gebruik.  Dit het 'n rigting

https://www.google.co.za/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.beadelltours.com.au%2Fimages%2Fcommercial_kit.jpg&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.beadelltours.com.au%2Frim_debate.html&docid=zOJw_qkbN0cjQM&tbnid=H-Wzar_IAVwTGM%3A&vet=10ahUKEwiIj67NzPzdAhWHDewKHU0SAY0QMwiFASgTMBM..i&w=944&h=819&bih=938&biw=1920&q=tyre%20patch&ved=0ahUKEwiIj67NzPzdAhWHDewKHU0SAY0QMwiFASgTMBM&iact=mrc&uact=8

As jy 'Tyre Patch' in google tik en dan Images sal jy ook die 'muschroom' soort sien.

Ek het myne by die motor onderdele plek gekoop.

Oohh onthou okk on elke 6 odd maande nuwe buis solution te koop. Die goed verslaan/verdamp in die buis.  Ek een dag 4 papwiele gekry oor vrot solution.  dis hoekom ek nou net Tip-Top gebruik.  Kyk maar op interweb.


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« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2018, 09:48:17 pm »
OOhhhh,

also remember some tubes are 'unpatchable' due to the material used to make them.  I think the thick heavy duty ones require a different solution - cant find the specs now

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« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2018, 10:18:10 pm »
Thanks, lad, ek sal n bietjie google ......  ;D
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Re: Tyre repair kits
« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2018, 06:51:49 am »
Thanks everyone, it seems it caused some needed discussion just to update ourselves..

@Noneking .... never will I talk out :laughing4: scared you guys dissappear too far into the distance for me to ever find you.... @chopper pilot .You offered your Sunday morning to assist a fellow rider. This is just another example of the caliber of people we have in Nelspruit :peepwall:.....

Thanks again, I will draw up my shopping list and adapt my packing layout to make provision for the basic toolkits and repair kit....

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« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2018, 07:01:27 am »
See if you can find some of these plugs.  they look to be good,they use rubber instead of rope. Is marketed as save for sidewall plugs..

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« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2018, 03:32:48 pm »
I ust concur with mr.T, do yourself a favour and run your hands inside a tyre and "feel" the sidewall and construction of the tyre. Some tyres are so soft and pliable I would not fit them even I was given them for free..... ;)
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Re: Tyre repair kits
« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2018, 04:03:44 pm »
pictures of Gaitors attached.


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« Reply #15 on: October 12, 2018, 06:39:26 am »
Go and buy some large truck/tractor tube patches, they make good inside gaiters.

Buy the tubeless repair kits and additional worms from Midas, cheap and works.
 
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