This whole GSC thing!

[popipants]

This topic has been discussed to DEATH!!!

And we all have agreed that BMW are absolutely the crapiest bike you can ever buy; and the people who buys it should be shot on site and their bodies left in the sun as a warning to any other potential buyer.

o..and before I forget. KTM's are the best bikes ever made and that will ever be made. 


Now that every has heard what they wanted, can we talk about something more interesting?

Faaaark me, you are sensitive this morning !!!!

Not get it all this morning???  - Your kelloggs now, I mean 

Don't worry - I like you ........   and your bike 

 
o ja.
Not having a good day at all.
I think I need a breakfast beer!!

[Paulsky]

As for the rest - what do you reallly want to achieve?

Healthy discourse, also I'm gatvol here at the office and this is a lekker distraction

[Pistonpete]

Why is it that i never see a thread where the KTM guys have to take up the defensive?

[LuckyStriker]

It's threads like these that make me want to quite being a moderator

the original post was a load of horse shit and I really don't want to read the rest of the thread although it's my job

thanks Fidel - you ass

[popipants]

It's threads like these that make me want to quite being a moderator

the original post was a load of horse shit and I really don't want to read the rest of the thread although it's my job

thanks Fidel - you ass

 

[popipants]

Why is it that i never see a thread where the KTM guys have to take up the defensive?

Tallest tree's gets the most wind!

[Fidel]

It is funny that it is always people who do not own BMW's who start sh!t threads like this.

If the same was being done, claiming the KTM 640 to be a commuter/tourer, i would have the same concerns. Again, its about the marketing and business ethics.


I like BMs, and I like most of their owners......i just dont think the perception being created is reasonable.


CloudGaz - the GSC is not a test of machine. Riding from here to a remote African destination with no backup and means of repair is. Even finding yourself stuck in the Kalahari because your ABS doesnt like it, is potentially leathal.

Dont teach the owners that they can go anywhere any time. Teach them that they can do some mild offroad but stay close to a BM service shop.  ....sorry, that came out wrong  .....Tell them that it is a complex and reasonably sensitive piece of equipment.

[Excalibur]

Nee wat, hierdie Beemers is kak hoor. Ek trap sommer vas en koop nog een. Ten minste kry hulle minder pap tyres.

[Lito]

sounds like someone or okes need a box of tissues.

single or double ply ladies?

[Poffmuis]

I had a BM and it was awesome. Now I R riding a Zook and it R more awesomer. They cannot have a Zook offroad challange, cause they cannot find terrain that is challenging enough. 
Apparently the reason they sent a probe to Mars

[bobnob]

CloudGaz - the GSC is not a test of machine. Riding from here to a remote African destination with no backup and means of repair is. Even finding yourself stuck in the Kalahari because your ABS doesnt like it, is potentially leathal.

Dont teach the owners that they can go anywhere any time. Teach them that they can do some mild offroad but stay close to a BM service shop.  ....sorry, that came out wrong  .....Tell them that it is a complex and reasonably sensitive piece of equipment.

okay so what your saying is that bmw is unreliable 

what bike would you use to do around the world trip? what bike would you use to do a cape to cairo to london trip?

this brings up a very interesting question - which bikes have been around the world the most and have done the most capetown to london trips?

[Fidel]

It's threads like these that make me want to quite being a moderator

the original post was a load of horse shit and I really don't want to read the rest of the thread although it's my job

thanks Fidel - you ass

Seems there are other grumpy smurfs in the woods today.  

[Fidel]

CloudGaz - the GSC is not a test of machine. Riding from here to a remote African destination with no backup and means of repair is. Even finding yourself stuck in the Kalahari because your ABS doesnt like it, is potentially leathal.

Dont teach the owners that they can go anywhere any time. Teach them that they can do some mild offroad but stay close to a BM service shop.  ....sorry, that came out wrong  .....Tell them that it is a complex and reasonably sensitive piece of equipment.

okay so what your saying is that bmw is unreliable 

what bike would you use to do around the world trip? what bike would you use to do a cape to cairo to london trip?

this brings up a very interesting question - which bikes have been around the world the most and have done the most capetown to london trips?

Thats what they said about the Land Rovers.

[Plothond]

How many incidents was at the RR this year? I know of quite a few! :pot:How many mean ass adventure riders on KTM's ended up in hospital at the RR? Unfortunately their was a really sad incident at the GS Challenge, but it could have happened at the RR as well!

First question answer:
2 incidents of broken bones. The first was dazed who hit the cow (he is btw an exceptionally competent rider) and the second was a chap who missed a turn hit an enbankment and a ditch and broke his hand
A lot of bikes had some scratches and scrapes from a few lay-downs

The statement:
Yes it could have happened at the RR, or even on a normal WD trip

Now an OBSERVATION:
I thought I imagined it last year, but it was confirmed this year
The average skill of the riders at the RR event was exceptionally high. I often felt as if I was at the bottom end of the food chain when it came to the skills displayed.
I wondered what the reason could be and it was partly answered by some of the conversations I heard
Long lost friends and mates met up at the RR and often the conversation moved to their PRE big trailie days. A lot of entrants have had prior MX experiences.

[popipants]

It is funny that it is always people who do not own BMW's who start sh!t threads like this.

If the same was being done, claiming the KTM 640 to be a commuter/tourer, i would have the same concerns. Again, its about the marketing and business ethics.


I like BMs, and I like most of their owners......i just dont think the perception being created is reasonable.


CloudGaz - the GSC is not a test of machine. Riding from here to a remote African destination with no backup and means of repair is. Even finding yourself stuck in the Kalahari because your ABS doesnt like it, is potentially leathal.

Dont teach the owners that they can go anywhere any time. Teach them that they can do some mild offroad but stay close to a BM service shop.  ....sorry, that came out wrong  .....Tell them that it is a complex and reasonably sensitive piece of equipment.

I don't think you have any idea of what you are talking about.
Maybe do a couple of Google searches on what  ABS is and how it works before posting crap like that.
 

[Operator]

I had a BM and it was awesome. Now I R riding a Zook and it R more awesomer. They cannot have a Zook offroad challange, cause they cannot find terrain that is challenging enough. 
Apparently the reason they sent a probe to Mars

Excellent post.

Me and you can boldy go where no (some) GS can go on our Zooks................and the best part about it is that me and you don't stand around and make small talk to justify our choice of bike.

It is so lekka to stand on the sideline and listen to all this shit and not being involved.

 

[Lito]

i just wish Hylton would ride that fooking zookee.



Ja, he alost won a very short course barrel race, but my goodness man, how embarrassing to come anywhere else on a bike that weighs less than the taxbills on my desk.



I wonder if riding a fookinzookey goes hand in hand with a dopmeester?

 


hehehaha - what fun

[Smithey]

A lot of entrants have had prior MX experiences.

Ive seen this a lot. Its comforting sometimes when you get left in the dust to find out later that the rider has 10+ years MX riding under his belt.

[popipants]

There would always be more casualties and broken bikes at a GS challenge than the KTM rally raid.
And it has nothing to do with either bikes. The average skill at the raid is higher at the GS challenge.

A lot of people who is entering the bike market for the first time knows nothing about bikes.
They all flock to BMW. Because the brand is more widely known than KTM's. And has a much better reputation in the market.
KTM has a big brand following in the biking community. But LOTS of non biking people does not even know what a
KTM is.
That means more newbies will ride BMW's. Thus the ave. skill level is down.
So they will fall more and break the bikes more. This is no reflection on the bike or its abilities.

[Disselboom]

Mint R 1200 GS to swop for DRZ 400.To make it fair I'll settle for an oldish DRZ...