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Re: This whole GSC thing!
« Reply #80 on: October 02, 2008, 01:01:43 pm »
Pete you naughty boy. Youre normally very carefull. I like it!


I think one of my questions have been answered.

There is little to do with engineering and design principles here, its almost all about passion and the following you choose.

If you firmly believe that Vuka is the ultimate adventure bike, youlle make it work for you and find the right defenses.

Not that im comparing a BM to a Vuka! ;)
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Re: This whole GSC thing!
« Reply #81 on: October 02, 2008, 01:10:43 pm »
Fidel, you are causing k@k, look at all the Beemers coming into the market after your post:

Leo: http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=23092.0;topicseen

Hentie: http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=23099.0;topicseen

jameyburgh: http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=23096.0;topicseen

you farking chasing everyone away man!! :P

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Re: This whole GSC thing!
« Reply #82 on: October 02, 2008, 01:19:35 pm »
Nothing like a can worms, eh Fidel  :biggrin:

Must be honest, i got bored after the first page so just skipped here as i can assume what all the other replies are.  ::)
But i would like to try and answer your question/s for you without causing sh*t.

All makes have very good marketing strategies and sales pitches, therefore they reap in the buyers big time. If you look a the amount of DS type bikes on the road, BM is dominating by far.  
One of the reasons i believe is that due to the numbers, people assume that it is a good bike. You take it on a dirt road, you manage well and then your confidence levels grow.

Then you need to put a bunch of boys and girls together with the same bikes and the testosterone levels step into play  >:D >:D
We all know what happens then. Now organise and event for all owners of said bikes and what do you get...


... a lot of guys capable of handling a bike well, and a lot of guys wanting to handle the bike well.
Like the KTM, Honda transalps, etc, there bikes are marketed as off roaders, therefore you need to use it offroad.

I know of a honda dealer in Gauteng that will tell you that the new Transalp is the best DS bike in the market, and it will kick ass against both KTM and BM.
So as anew entry t this market, who do you believe and how do you want to ride??

Somehow you will not get an answer to the questions you have, each rider buys his or her bike for their own reason and believe it is capable of doing what the want it to do  :biggrin: :biggrin:

I have no issue with tossing my 1150GSA around in De Wildt, as i have doe it before. It was seriously cool and my bike survived, will i do it again, sure i will, cause the salesman said it would survive  >:D >:D

Thanks for the entertaining thread.
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Re: This whole GSC thing!
« Reply #83 on: October 02, 2008, 01:22:04 pm »
Ek is n under cover KTM agent.  8)

.....die pay is kark, maar die girls dig dit.  ;)
 

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Re: This whole GSC thing!
« Reply #84 on: October 02, 2008, 01:24:27 pm »
Fidel, your`e mind is way too practical to understand the designers of BM`s logic as well as their riders`s and thus you will never be taken up into the engineering academy at Dash Auto, AGHTUNG!!....it is like those chandeliers at The Forum, the design and shape does not make all that sense, but...in the end, they give off light and it is good.  :D
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Re: This whole GSC thing!
« Reply #85 on: October 02, 2008, 01:41:44 pm »
Fidel's hole idea is to get someone to sell his Beemer for cheep.
He took Fouriekop's Beemer for a spin and was hooked..............

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Re: This whole GSC thing!
« Reply #86 on: October 02, 2008, 01:41:55 pm »
I cannot help analysing the engineering and design aspects, its my orientation and curse.


When is see a bike with brake and gear levers that dont collapse/pivot, it think.....das ist nicht good, you fall, you bend or brake.

When is see sensors and wires from both wheel ends, waiting to get snagged on the tree stump in the river bed, or those thick branches on a cattle trail, i think........mmm achtung.

Those silly torx bolts that are lovely to torque down with an electronic tool in a high tech Auto fabriek but does not exist in the rest of Africa........eish

..or those flashing lights on the dash that light up like a bergies eyes when you give him a pack of siggies, but no one except Dr in science, Hans van den Ploes, has a clue what they mean.


Sulke kark pla my so bietjie. :)
 

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Re: This whole GSC thing!
« Reply #87 on: October 02, 2008, 01:49:06 pm »
Fidel's hole idea is to get someone to sell his Beemer for cheep.
He took Fouriekop's Beemer for a spin and was hooked..............

Don't you have to be this tall for that ride?---------- ;) :biggrin:
 

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Re: This whole GSC thing!
« Reply #88 on: October 02, 2008, 02:00:37 pm »
I cannot help analysing the engineering and design aspects, its my orientation and curse.


When is see a bike with brake and gear levers that dont collapse/pivot, it think.....das ist nicht good, you fall, you bend or brake.

When is see sensors and wires from both wheel ends, waiting to get snagged on the tree stump in the river bed, or those thick branches on a cattle trail, i think........mmm achtung.

Those silly torx bolts that are lovely to torque down with an electronic tool in a high tech Auto fabriek but does not exist in the rest of Africa........eish

..or those flashing lights on the dash that light up like a bergies eyes when you give him a pack of siggies, but no one except Dr in science, Hans van den Ploes, has a clue what they mean.


Sulke kark pla my so bietjie. :)

If you like to analyse so much. Why don't you give us a write up of what you recon are wrong with the KTM's?

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Re: This whole GSC thing!
« Reply #89 on: October 02, 2008, 02:05:41 pm »
If you like to analyse so much. Why don't you give us a write up of what you recon are wrong with the KTM's?

Oooohhhh that's easy - everything!  :laughing4:  :laughing4:

It spins to easy, eats rear tyres to fast, makes a hell of a noise, hard seat, big front tyre, kak lights, has a chain.... you name it.
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Re: This whole GSC thing!
« Reply #90 on: October 02, 2008, 02:08:17 pm »
I cannot help analysing the engineering and design aspects, its my orientation and curse.


When is see a bike with brake and gear levers that dont collapse/pivot, it think.....das ist nicht good, you fall, you bend or brake.

When is see sensors and wires from both wheel ends, waiting to get snagged on the tree stump in the river bed, or those thick branches on a cattle trail, i think........mmm achtung.

Those silly torx bolts that are lovely to torque down with an electronic tool in a high tech Auto fabriek but does not exist in the rest of Africa........eish

..or those flashing lights on the dash that light up like a bergies eyes when you give him a pack of siggies, but no one except Dr in science, Hans van den Ploes, has a clue what they mean.


Sulke kark pla my so bietjie. :)

But why are you bitching, you ride a KTM, you spend your money on a kTM, are you feeling sorry for the BMW oke's because they wasted their money on such a shit bike?

Thanks for taking up the cause for the poor sods, but I am sure they're okay with the commuter.  ;)


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Re: This whole GSC thing!
« Reply #91 on: October 02, 2008, 02:20:41 pm »
Fidel, my freaking hero  :thumleft:

you got these boys to spin for 5 pages!!!

takes skill to do that with what is essentially an old topic - respect  :biggrin:
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Re: This whole GSC thing!
« Reply #92 on: October 02, 2008, 02:29:31 pm »
I could swear that KTM started RR cause the Orange guys felt so left out on their 230 kg Katooms with plastic,light aliminium engines parts and electronics not designed for swimming.This RR thing must stop cause guys spend fortunes on 990's just for Gloverbox to mess them up.Butch asked him to set toughies as his parts division is a bit down on turnover this year. :pot:
 

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Re: This whole GSC thing!
« Reply #93 on: October 02, 2008, 02:31:28 pm »
If you like to analyse so much. Why don't you give us a write up of what you recon are wrong with the KTM's?

Oooohhhh that's easy - everything!  :laughing4:  :laughing4:

It spins to easy, eats rear tyres to fast, makes a hell of a noise, hard seat, big front tyre, kak lights, has a chain.... you name it.
Not forgetting skew fairing, lots of vibration, rims ding easily & many have a weave.....
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Re: This whole GSC thing!
« Reply #94 on: October 02, 2008, 02:33:06 pm »
hi guys
can somebody point me to previous posts of fidels,i would like to see photos of his rides[how extreme are they]
 and what number was he at the gs challenge?and what year did he take part.
and if he moved to a ktm what number was he at this years event?
thanks.
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have done the red route on the 1100gs,hp2,1150 adventure and a 650x challenge along with the sabie challenge red route with a pillion,the bikes enjoyed it and so far no problems.
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Re: This whole GSC thing!
« Reply #95 on: October 02, 2008, 02:33:48 pm »
I could swear that KTM started RR cause the Orange guys felt so left out on their 230 kg Katooms with plastic,light aliminium engines parts and electronics not designed for swimming.This RR thing must stop cause guys spend fortunes on 990's just for Gloverbox to mess them up.Butch asked him to set toughies as his parts division is a bit down on turnover this year. :pot:
Kark...all i need is 1 fresh indicator....thats not so bad huh !
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Re: This whole GSC thing!
« Reply #96 on: October 02, 2008, 02:38:34 pm »
I could swear that KTM started RR cause the Orange guys felt so left out on their 230 kg Katooms with plastic,light aliminium engines parts and electronics not designed for swimming.This RR thing must stop cause guys spend fortunes on 990's just for Gloverbox to mess them up.Butch asked him to set toughies as his parts division is a bit down on turnover this year. :pot:
Kark...all i need is 1 fresh indicator....thats not so bad huh !
Should have taken them off.
 

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Re: This whole GSC thing!
« Reply #97 on: October 02, 2008, 02:41:08 pm »
hi guys
can somebody point me to previous posts of fidels,i would like to see photos of his rides[how extreme are they]
 and what number was he at the gs challenge?and what year did he take part.
and if he moved to a ktm what number was he at this years event?
thanks.
ps
have done the red route on the 1100gs,hp2,1150 adventure and a 650x challenge along with the sabie challenge red route with a pillion,the bikes enjoyed it and so far no problems.

and now we start the pissing contest..... ;) :biggrin:


 

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Re: This whole GSC thing!
« Reply #98 on: October 02, 2008, 02:42:07 pm »
Should have taken them off.

No need Ready to Race remember? :mwink: :pot:
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Re: This whole GSC thing!
« Reply #99 on: October 02, 2008, 02:44:08 pm »
Should have taken them off.

No need Ready to Race remember? :mwink: :pot:
You see there was this rock & then a tree & ballbearings & then a....
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