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Re: MotoGP 2019
« Reply #60 on: November 24, 2018, 02:23:07 pm »
At the end of the day all the MotoGP riders are superstars at the top of their game.
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Re: MotoGP 2019
« Reply #61 on: November 26, 2018, 08:44:59 am »
Just had three days of testing for Moto2 and Moto E at Jerez.

In Moto2 it seems that Kalex have the new Triumph engines and unified ECU's dialed in a tad better than anyone else since the top 10 or so bikes over the three days were all Kalex, with VR46's brother Luca Marini being the fastest.  Brad Binder was fastest KTM and thirteenth.  They did suffer from a bad disadvantage as their new rider, Jorge Martin, crashed on Day 1 and broke some bones in his foot, leaving them with half the info gained.   

MotoE seems interesting.  In the current trim they were about 10s per lap slower than the Moto2's, bu the riders are all in agreement that a lot of testing and setup is still required.   
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Re: MotoGP 2019
« Reply #62 on: November 26, 2018, 08:46:39 am »
At the end of the day all the MotoGP riders are superstars at the top of their game.

For sure, but what makes MotoGP more interesting at present is that there are heros and villains.  Your hero may well be my villain, but without heros and villains you have boredom. 
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Re: MotoGP 2019
« Reply #63 on: November 28, 2018, 05:18:37 pm »
Jorge already quick considering he has a recently broken wrist and is on a new bike.

Jerez MotoGP times - Wednesday 2:30pm

Marc Marquez SPA Repsol Honda (RC213V) 1m 38.517s
Andrea Dovizioso ITA Ducati Team (Desmosesdici) 1m 38.519s +0.002s
Jorge Lorenzo SPA Repsol Honda (RC213V) 1m 38.749s +0.232s
Maverick Vinales SPA Movistar Yamaha (YZR-M1) 1m 38.999s +0.482s
Andrea Iannone ITA Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) 1m 39.008s +0.491s
Franco Morbidelli ITA Petronas Yamaha SRT (YZR-M1) 1m 39.119s +0.602s
Danilo Petrucci ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici) 1m 39.127s +0.610s
Alex Rins SPA Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) 1m 39.150s +0.633s
Takaaki Nakagami JPN LCR Honda (RC213V) 1m 39.397s +0.880s
Jack Miller AUS Pramac Ducati (Desmosedici) 1m 39.575s +1.058s
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Re: MotoGP 2019
« Reply #64 on: November 28, 2018, 05:23:16 pm »
This week always creates interesting WSBK versus MotoGP comparisons as they test on the same track, during the same week.  This week, Monday and Tuesday was private testing (not all teams are there) for WSBK at Jerez and Wednesday and Thursday is official MGP testing (all teams are there).  Look at the fastest times.

Top 6:

Petrux 1:37.968
Dovi: 1:38.185
Nakagami: 1:38.348
Vinales: 1:38.376
MM93: 1:38.517
Morbidelli: 1:38.659
Rea: 1:38.713
George 1:38.749

After George there are 4 MGP bikes before the next WSBK bike.

Another interesting comparison:

Alvaro Bautista, 1:38, 830 - MGP Ducati Factory Team (Stand in test rider)
Alvaro Bautista, 1:39.845. - WSBK Aruba.It Ducati Factory

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Re: MotoGP 2019
« Reply #65 on: November 29, 2018, 09:32:23 am »
Final times from the first day of testing at Jerez:

Petrux:  1:37.968
Dovi: 1:38.185
Nakagami:  1:38.348 (Riding the ex-Cal Crutchlow 2018 machine now and next year)
Maverick: 1:38.376
MM93: 1:38.517
Franky: 1:38.659 (Them factory Yamaha riders better keep an I on this young man)
George: 1:38.749
Jackass: 1:38.816
Bautista: 1:38.830
Mir: 1:38.956

VR46 only managed the 17th fastest time at 1:39.596.  In his defense, he didn't do many laps due to technical failure (must be in his kit, since 2SD have convinced us all it cannot possibly be the Yamaha)

Some thoughts of riders:

Zarco:  Still too slow, but adapting to the bike.  Likes the engine. Still a lot to try and understand.
Rossi:  Happy that he and MV12 agrees on which 2019 engine is best, but feels that the engine, while better is already behind the competition.
Petrucci:  Happy as an Italian in the Ducati factory with the factory Ducati.
Vinales:  More positive about the engine than VR46.  Feels the 2019 bike is much easier to ride fast.
Marquez:  Faster on the 2018 bike than the 2019 bike.  He likes the feeling of the 2019 bike.
Dovi:  Fast, but not sure why.  He may be playing his pace down as rumour have it that Ducati have solved their turning issues.  He spend most of his time on track assessing two different 2019 chassis.
Morbidelli:  Happy with good pace, but feels he still have a lot to learn about the Yamaha.

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Re: MotoGP 2019
« Reply #66 on: November 29, 2018, 04:18:05 pm »
Final times from the first day of testing at Jerez:

Petrux:  1:37.968
Dovi: 1:38.185
Nakagami:  1:38.348 (Riding the ex-Cal Crutchlow 2018 machine now and next year)
Maverick: 1:38.376
MM93: 1:38.517
Franky: 1:38.659 (Them factory Yamaha riders better keep an I on this young man)
George: 1:38.749
Jackass: 1:38.816
Bautista: 1:38.830
Mir: 1:38.956

VR46 only managed the 17th fastest time at 1:39.596.  In his defense, he didn't do many laps due to technical failure (must be in his kit, since 2SD have convinced us all it cannot possibly be the Yamaha)

Some thoughts of riders:

Zarco:  Still too slow, but adapting to the bike.  Likes the engine. Still a lot to try and understand.
Rossi:  Happy that he and MV12 agrees on which 2019 engine is best, but feels that the engine, while better is already behind the competition.
Petrucci:  Happy as an Italian in the Ducati factory with the factory Ducati.
Vinales:  More positive about the engine than VR46.  Feels the 2019 bike is much easier to ride fast.
Marquez:  Faster on the 2018 bike than the 2019 bike.  He likes the feeling of the 2019 bike.
Dovi:  Fast, but not sure why.  He may be playing his pace down as rumour have it that Ducati have solved their turning issues.  He spend most of his time on track assessing two different 2019 chassis.
Morbidelli:  Happy with good pace, but feels he still have a lot to learn about the Yamaha.

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Re: MotoGP 2019
« Reply #67 on: November 29, 2018, 04:35:08 pm »
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Re: MotoGP 2019
« Reply #68 on: November 29, 2018, 05:03:36 pm »
Final times from the first day of testing at Jerez:

Petrux:  1:37.968
Dovi: 1:38.185
Nakagami:  1:38.348 (Riding the ex-Cal Crutchlow 2018 machine now and next year)
Maverick: 1:38.376
MM93: 1:38.517
Franky: 1:38.659 (Them factory Yamaha riders better keep an I on this young man)
George: 1:38.749
Jackass: 1:38.816
Bautista: 1:38.830
Mir: 1:38.956

VR46 only managed the 17th fastest time at 1:39.596.  In his defense, he didn't do many laps due to technical failure (must be in his kit, since 2SD have convinced us all it cannot possibly be the Yamaha)

Some thoughts of riders:

Zarco:  Still too slow, but adapting to the bike.  Likes the engine. Still a lot to try and understand.
Rossi:  Happy that he and MV12 agrees on which 2019 engine is best, but feels that the engine, while better is already behind the competition.
Petrucci:  Happy as an Italian in the Ducati factory with the factory Ducati.
Vinales:  More positive about the engine than VR46.  Feels the 2019 bike is much easier to ride fast.
Marquez:  Faster on the 2018 bike than the 2019 bike.  He likes the feeling of the 2019 bike.
Dovi:  Fast, but not sure why.  He may be playing his pace down as rumour have it that Ducati have solved their turning issues.  He spend most of his time on track assessing two different 2019 chassis.
Morbidelli:  Happy with good pace, but feels he still have a lot to learn about the Yamaha.

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Re: MotoGP 2019
« Reply #69 on: November 29, 2018, 05:42:34 pm »
This week always creates interesting WSBK versus MotoGP comparisons as they test on the same track, during the same week.  This week, Monday and Tuesday was private testing (not all teams are there) for WSBK at Jerez and Wednesday and Thursday is official MGP testing (all teams are there).  Look at the fastest times.

Top 6:

Petrux 1:37.968
Dovi: 1:38.185
Nakagami: 1:38.348
Vinales: 1:38.376
MM93: 1:38.517
Morbidelli: 1:38.659
Rea: 1:38.713
George 1:38.749

After George there are 4 MGP bikes before the next WSBK bike.

Another interesting comparison:

Alvaro Bautista, 1:38, 830 - MGP Ducati Factory Team (Stand in test rider)
Alvaro Bautista, 1:39.845. - WSBK Aruba.It Ducati Factory
I would never have thought a WSB rider would manage such a similar pace to the GP bikes.
No wonder Rea destroys the rest of the WSB field.
 

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Re: MotoGP 2019
« Reply #70 on: November 29, 2018, 06:29:33 pm »
This week always creates interesting WSBK versus MotoGP comparisons as they test on the same track, during the same week.  This week, Monday and Tuesday was private testing (not all teams are there) for WSBK at Jerez and Wednesday and Thursday is official MGP testing (all teams are there).  Look at the fastest times.

Top 6:

Petrux 1:37.968
Dovi: 1:38.185
Nakagami: 1:38.348
Vinales: 1:38.376
MM93: 1:38.517
Morbidelli: 1:38.659
Rea: 1:38.713
George 1:38.749

After George there are 4 MGP bikes before the next WSBK bike.

Another interesting comparison:

Alvaro Bautista, 1:38, 830 - MGP Ducati Factory Team (Stand in test rider)
Alvaro Bautista, 1:39.845. - WSBK Aruba.It Ducati Factory
I would never have thought a WSB rider would manage such a similar pace to the GP bikes.
No wonder Rea destroys the rest of the WSB field.

i agree with you, rea`s performance is very impressive.
I have not been watching motogp this year, but next season might be watching againm, with jorge and mm teaming up....
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Re: MotoGP 2019
« Reply #71 on: November 30, 2018, 08:24:26 am »
This week always creates interesting WSBK versus MotoGP comparisons as they test on the same track, during the same week.  This week, Monday and Tuesday was private testing (not all teams are there) for WSBK at Jerez and Wednesday and Thursday is official MGP testing (all teams are there).  Look at the fastest times.

Top 6:

Petrux 1:37.968
Dovi: 1:38.185
Nakagami: 1:38.348
Vinales: 1:38.376
MM93: 1:38.517
Morbidelli: 1:38.659
Rea: 1:38.713
George 1:38.749

After George there are 4 MGP bikes before the next WSBK bike.

Another interesting comparison:

Alvaro Bautista, 1:38, 830 - MGP Ducati Factory Team (Stand in test rider)
Alvaro Bautista, 1:39.845. - WSBK Aruba.It Ducati Factory
I would never have thought a WSB rider would manage such a similar pace to the GP bikes.
No wonder Rea destroys the rest of the WSB field.

Janee!  Rea was always a great rider.   Certainly amongst the best.  Then Kawasaki came along and handed him a bike that suits him to a tee and turned him into a giant killer!  I reckon MGP is writing rules such as: "No one with a three letter surname starting with an R and ending with an A on a Kawasaki is allowed in MGP!"   He would certainly make a few well known brands and names suffer even more!
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Re: MotoGP 2019
« Reply #72 on: November 30, 2018, 08:33:25 am »
Yesterday's times from Jerez:

Nakagami: 1:37.945    :patch:
That double M dude:  1:37.970
Maverick: 1:38.066
JL99:  1:38.105
Petrux: 1:38.109
Franky: 1:38.118
Miller: 1:38.207
Dovi: 1:38.207
Pecca: 1:38.333
Rins: 1:38.522

VR managed 11th.  He is not a happy Yamie rider at present.  Apparently the bike is very quick on a new tyre and then chows the tyre and lap times come down. 
Nakagami:  He is more surprised than anyone with his fastest time for the day.
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Re: MotoGP 2019
« Reply #73 on: November 30, 2018, 08:52:23 am »
Some pretty close times.. I only caught glimpses of it online, MM already with the psychological advantage over Lorenzo.. I hope VR gets up there and in the mix.. I may be a Repsol supporter but when VR gets stuck in there you know its going to be good. How was Zarco running?
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Re: MotoGP 2019
« Reply #74 on: November 30, 2018, 09:15:49 am »
Some pretty close times.. I only caught glimpses of it online, MM already with the psychological advantage over Lorenzo.. I hope VR gets up there and in the mix.. I may be a Repsol supporter but when VR gets stuck in there you know its going to be good. How was Zarco running?

I have to agree.  I am a Yamaha supporter and would love to see them in the mix for top spot, but with competition.  It is just better if we have 4 - 5 manufacturers fighting it out, instead of one ruling the roost. 

Zarco is struggling.  17th on day 1 and 19th on day 2.  It looks bad, but overall, it seems KTM is battling as, on day 2 they were:

Espargaro: 17th
Zarco: 19th
Syahrin: 23rd
Oliviera: 24.th

I hope they get their bikes sorted as well.  The problem for all of them, KTM, Aprilia, Suzuki and Yamaha is that it seems they made a jump from the 2018 bikes, but Honda and Ducati made a bigger jump.  Rossi sort of summarized it that they are all good for 6th, maybe 4th if someone crashes, but Ducati and Honda just way ahead again.
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Re: MotoGP 2019
« Reply #75 on: November 30, 2018, 12:16:29 pm »
Bus gaan jou opfok as jy lag vir n ryer wat sukkel.......

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Re: MotoGP 2019
« Reply #76 on: November 30, 2018, 02:56:34 pm »
I don't think you can read anything into the times on these tests.
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Re: MotoGP 2019
« Reply #77 on: November 30, 2018, 04:24:10 pm »
So remember when Ducati gave Jorge a new tank.........................and immediately he was quick.

Looks like Honda listened much earlier.
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Re: MotoGP 2019
« Reply #78 on: November 30, 2018, 06:30:30 pm »
I don't think you can read anything into the times on these tests.

Ok, I hope you saying Rossi will come teach these youngsters a thing or 2.
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Re: MotoGP 2019
« Reply #79 on: December 01, 2018, 09:30:43 pm »
Bus gaan jou opfok as jy lag vir n ryer wat sukkel.......

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Vir wat moan jy dan as die VR fans lag vir MM wat in die stof rondkruip?