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Re: It seems that a neck brace does save necks.
« Reply #20 on: December 11, 2018, 07:32:55 am »
Research has also shown that to have better chances at staying alive in Jhb you should wear a Bullet proof vest daily, it stops bullets.

In all honesty, yes I am sure it might help but for the small edge case that you will need it I will rather risk not riding with one, Same  as a bullet proof vest
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Re: It seems that a neck brace does save necks.
« Reply #21 on: December 11, 2018, 07:46:58 am »
I broke my neck brace with my fall beginning of the year. Now I go nowhere without it. Definitely saved my bacon
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Re: It seems that a neck brace does save necks.
« Reply #22 on: December 11, 2018, 08:31:49 am »
As far as I know, and I might be wrong, but since the Dakar competitors were forced to wear neck braces they have not suffered another broken neck death.
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Re: It seems that a neck brace does save necks.
« Reply #23 on: December 11, 2018, 08:50:15 am »
Suffered a flat front tyre during a trip in 2015. Tried to control it, but eventually high sided after about 200m - still doing about 100km/h according to GPS track log. I landed head first (see the photo of my Shoei helmet below) and I’m fairly convinced that the neck brace saved me that day.

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Re: It seems that a neck brace does save necks.
« Reply #24 on: December 11, 2018, 08:59:40 am »
Suffered a flat front tyre during a trip in 2015. Tried to control it, but eventually high sided after about 200m - still doing about 100km/h according to GPS track log. I landed head first (see the photo of my Shoei helmet below) and I’m fairly convinced that the neck brace saved me that day.

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Re: It seems that a neck brace does save necks.
« Reply #25 on: December 11, 2018, 09:00:46 am »
Yowzer... Tarmac, gravel or sand?

Gravel..
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Re: It seems that a neck brace does save necks.
« Reply #26 on: December 11, 2018, 09:06:59 am »
Ja same here. Hit a car head on at approx 80kmh, bounced on my head then proceeded to skid along head first. This was on dirt. I honestly believe if not for the neck brace I would be in a wheelchair now. So I ride with it most of the time.

That said I often ride without it as well, sometimes it is just too restrictive. We will never see everyone agree on this, use the kit that makes you feel safe and don't judge others on their choices. If you're really concerned, voice your concerns then at least you tried.

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Re: It seems that a neck brace does save necks.
« Reply #27 on: December 11, 2018, 12:01:53 pm »
There was likely the same debate about helmets 60 years ago.............. :deal:

On the odd occasion I rush out of the office and forget mine, I feel positively naked without the brace.
 

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Re: It seems that a neck brace does save necks.
« Reply #28 on: December 11, 2018, 12:21:26 pm »
Did you read the info and the context wherein the information was gathered?

I really don't care how they "SAY" it was gathered.  In these times I cannot believe anything anymore.  Die wereld is mos in sy glory. Almal lieg en bedrieg om die REGTE antwoorde te kry.  :laughing4:

To be totally fair they state clearly it based on the number of patients with the injuries in question. The only outstanding information is the proportion of MX riders in the Great Lakes area of the USA that use a neck brace.

I would be surprised if it is not at least 50 -50 which makes these stats scary. I reckon that in the litigious country of the USofA you will find closer to 80% of the riders wear neck braces which makes these stats terrifying. If this is the case the risk is significantly increased for the non brace wearers.

I tired to find out the proportion of riders and could not find any empirical information. I did find a lot of comments on the reduction of neck injuries in MX in the USA since the introduction of braces. Some even commented that people are becoming complacent about braces as there are fewer injuries and so are no longer wearing braces.

Like all things we are adults and can make up our own minds.
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Re: It seems that a neck brace does save necks.
« Reply #29 on: December 11, 2018, 01:46:02 pm »
The only way to realy know is for everyone that crashes, to fall on their heads twice

Once with the brace and once without.

The impossibility leaves much room for speculation and dismissiveness

I am not volunteering to double dive on my head.

. With the brace is my choice.

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Re: It seems that a neck brace does save necks.
« Reply #30 on: December 11, 2018, 02:21:23 pm »
The only way to realy know is for everyone that crashes, to fall on their heads twice

Once with the brace and once without.

The impossibility leaves much room for speculation and dismissiveness

I am not volunteering to double dive on my head.

. With the brace is my choice.

That's why they have test dummies, dummy  :pot:
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Re: It seems that a neck brace does save necks.
« Reply #31 on: December 12, 2018, 06:24:56 am »
The only way to realy know is for everyone that crashes, to fall on their heads twice

Once with the brace and once without.

The impossibility leaves much room for speculation and dismissiveness

I am not volunteering to double dive on my head.

. With the brace is my choice.

That's why they have test dummies, dummy  :pot:

Do they use a dummy and a real person?

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Re: It seems that a neck brace does save necks.
« Reply #32 on: December 12, 2018, 06:34:45 am »
It didnt save 2 St Dan from the ban hammer!
 

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Re: It seems that a neck brace does save necks.
« Reply #33 on: December 12, 2018, 08:44:21 am »
It didnt save 2 St Dan from the ban hammer!

That is because he wasn't wearing his  :deal:
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Re: It seems that a neck brace does save necks.
« Reply #34 on: December 12, 2018, 08:48:30 am »
It didnt save 2 St Dan from the ban hammer!

That is because he wasn't wearing his  :deal:

Well then we have to conclude that a neck brace works if you are wearing it. !!  :imaposer: :imaposer:
 

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Re: It seems that a neck brace does save necks.
« Reply #35 on: December 12, 2018, 08:59:10 am »
 :sip:  I wear mine every day when I go further than the local shop. I have seen damage to helmets that could have caused serious injury but for the brace. Yes he had a sore neck for about a week.
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Re: It seems that a neck brace does save necks.
« Reply #36 on: December 12, 2018, 09:04:40 am »
Just to add I wouldn't wanna force anyone to wear anything.  I think helmets should be optional.

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Re: It seems that a neck brace does save necks.
« Reply #37 on: December 12, 2018, 09:16:24 am »
If this is a legit research report, where is the referencing?

Or if its a summary of the actual report, where is the link then to the actual report?
(Even if it is a summary, there should still be some referencing)
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Re: It seems that a neck brace does save necks.
« Reply #38 on: December 12, 2018, 11:12:39 am »
I live with permanent neck and shoulder pain and stiffness.  Operation required. (happened 6 years ago.)

Early one morning I was doing about 100km/h a jackal buzzard swooped down into my headlight beam and then straight up into my helmet, it threw my helmet back with enough force to damage both mine and my wife's helmet. 

I strongly believe a neck brace would have prevented an injury. 

It certainly would have been worse if my wife did not take some of the back hyperextension force.  See pillions are useful!
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Re: It seems that a neck brace does save necks.
« Reply #39 on: December 12, 2018, 02:39:14 pm »
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