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Offline Tom van Brits

Royal Enfield talk
« on: December 17, 2018, 10:07:43 am »
Let's talk Royal Enfield here :)

Always liked them in since I may go to the Himalayas next year for a few weeks as medic I am watching YouTube vids about the highest pass in the world!!

It is something like 5300m above sea level and a tad higher than Base-camp 'Everest'

So I see most prefer either the 500Bullet or the 411cc Himalayan
Maybe for nostalgia which I absolutely get.

These bikes are no way near perfect but 'the best for the job'  :3some: 8)

Each to his own, I like to live a simple life. Even if I had money I would have lived a simple life.
For a short while (years back) i have owned new Triumph and it was great but then my wife left, contract ended and it was the end of a short lived 'bling' but still; my best biking was on old Z750 an GS550E, DR200 and KLR650

So unfortunately Royal Enfield is not taking off because I believe it can't make emissions regulations and also because there are not many bikers that like basic simple engineering, or am I wrong?

Apparently reliability was/is a non issue as it warns you (like most bikes) that something needs attention and normally you can fix that at the next stop or end of the trip.
It seems this old tech bikes needs an owner that is a bit technically minded but nothing serious.

Yes and then it is underpowered relative to let's say a modern 500 but the guy that goes for an Enfield could not care less right! :lol8:

Yes I like them, and would like to hear of owners and ex owners and wannabe owners  :peepwall:

There was tour opperator in the Cape that was running a small fleet of Enfield 350, so I know there are more people that like this legendary brand.
 

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Re: Royal Enfield talk
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2018, 12:01:33 pm »
Myself and a mate spent 5weeks in May and June this year riding the Himalayas of India. Both on Royal Enfield Himalayans. We rode unsupported, fully laden with full on camping gear. The Himalayan is not a bike I would ride in SA but perfect for India and the Himalayas, simple, uncomplicated and tough, 21" front, 18" at the back, fuel injected so handled the high passes well, and we did them all. Definitely underpowered but that is not an issue when you're riding on often incredibly dangerous passes.The bikes handled everything, never missed a beat, and we rode some seriously bad roads. I would hate to have been on the 500cc bullet or classic, their lower suspension would simply not have been up to the task. Bike came with good quality offroad tyres, unfortunately not tubeless but in over 3000kms of mountain passes we didn't have a single puncture, something of a miracle. We hired the bikes for six weeks and that cost only approx R8500. We were fortunate in that we both got almost brand new bikes.
 
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Re: Royal Enfield talk
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2018, 12:03:09 pm »
Another pic
 
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Re: Royal Enfield talk
« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2018, 12:26:39 pm »
Thank you so much for the reply bud, would you care to post a couple more pics please? :thumleft:

Did you guys suffer a bit of altetude sickness or did you slowly worked into the altetude to climatise a bit?

I am sure many here will appreciate a ride report if you can find the time please.

 

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Re: Royal Enfield talk
« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2018, 12:41:54 pm »
More pics of India Himalayan trip
 
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Re: Royal Enfield talk
« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2018, 12:48:54 pm »
Yes we definitely did acclimatise, spending time at lower altitudes and gradually working up to the higher altitudes. We got caught one night at high altitude (5500) in a snow blizzard and we both had early signs of altitude affecting us so we got out of there in a hurry. But on the whole, no problems.
 
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Offline Suzukli DL

Re: Royal Enfield talk
« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2018, 01:00:10 pm »
To me they are like the Ural  perfect for that kind of riding Tom .   :biggrin: simple, fix when you can with duct tape, draad and a few tools  , go everywhere slowly, carry what you need and enjoy.
« Last Edit: December 17, 2018, 01:00:35 pm by Suzukli DL »
 
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Re: Royal Enfield talk
« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2018, 01:05:11 pm »
Tom, you have been drinkig romantic coctails again, werent you?  :peepwall: remember the saying: ‘im not rich enough to buy cheap things’?

I have done that trip (i assume we are talking ladakh loop from manali) long time ago in 2000 on Africa Twin from Europe. The highest pass is not 5300 - that is the one you will cross on the way to ladakh, but 5600 one going to china ( assuming there isnt one higher in andes which im not sure about) which you can also do from ladakh.

I managed tge altitude fine this time, but my mate was in pretty bad shape and we had to get down to lowlands in ladakh at 3500 m pronto. AT being carb bike was very low on power as well. Yhe altitude can definitely screw you up properly - come ready with viagra or some such.

Enfields are fine for india, but useless anywhere else imo. You want cheap old tech bike with much better reliability power and less weight, get well preserved old school jap bike liie dr, xt, xr. And save yourself hassle. if you are into style for some reason - the only reason to opt for enfield - get bullet for the trip (do not buy one!).
« Last Edit: December 17, 2018, 01:06:39 pm by Xpat »
 

Offline Tom van Brits

Re: Royal Enfield talk
« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2018, 01:20:52 pm »
Yes we definitely did acclimatise, spending time at lower altitudes and gradually working up to the higher altitudes. We got caught one night at high altitude (5500) in a snow blizzard and we both had early signs of altitude affecting us so we got out of there in a hurry. But on the whole, no problems.

Thanks for the pics and info, you have made my day :thumleft:

If you feel to ad more pics and story feel free to do , everyone will appreciate
 

Offline Tom van Brits

Re: Royal Enfield talk
« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2018, 01:30:28 pm »
Tom, you have been drinkig romantic coctails again, werent you?  :peepwall: remember the saying: ‘im not rich enough to buy cheap things’?

I have done that trip (i assume we are talking ladakh loop from manali) long time ago in 2000 on Africa Twin from Europe. The highest pass is not 5300 - that is the one you will cross on the way to ladakh, but 5600 one going to china ( assuming there isnt one higher in andes which im not sure about) which you can also do from ladakh.

I managed tge altitude fine this time, but my mate was in pretty bad shape and we had to get down to lowlands in ladakh at 3500 m pronto. AT being carb bike was very low on power as well. Yhe altitude can definitely screw you up properly - come ready with viagra or some such.

Enfields are fine for india, but useless anywhere else imo. You want cheap old tech bike with much better reliability power and less weight, get well preserved old school jap bike liie dr, xt, xr. And save yourself hassle. if you are into style for some reason - the only reason to opt for enfield - get bullet for the trip (do not buy one!).

 :spitcoffee: yes Martin I am a terrible romantic  :lol8: but yes I  am talking Ladakh and surrounds.
The lady's house I'm looking after has got free uncapped wifi and a huge smart tv. All I've been doing is taking care of her dogs, jog a bit and watch Himalayas adventures and dream away....

I love the sound and look of this old historic motorcycle and for a India that is my bike of choice yes.
I have seen many videos of guys managing to complete that trip on the bullets and the Himalayan.
I even Ausies on Bajaj, Kim road bike (which he later swabbed for a Himalayan) and other bikers ons smallish bikes but the most still used the Bullet. Yes they are not perfect but they go. Some needed yet changes but the bigger operators got support crews that take care of this.
Needless to say, this is now number 1 on me bucket list (the trip)

For SA I need maybe a Dr650 or something similar yes.  8) I am limited now with my NC, Canton afford to take the bike on bad roads and damage her so yes I am looking for a cheaper alternative as a second bike.
 

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Re: Royal Enfield talk
« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2018, 01:41:01 pm »
I have posted a short report of our trip on the other site for those interested.
 
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Re: Royal Enfield talk
« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2018, 04:19:28 pm »
 

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Re: Royal Enfield talk
« Reply #12 on: December 17, 2018, 04:37:59 pm »
I don't know how to embed YouTube videos but this give one an idea:

https://youtu.be/UB8f5fuktwE
 

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Re: Royal Enfield talk
« Reply #13 on: December 17, 2018, 08:11:49 pm »
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Re: Royal Enfield talk
« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2018, 07:41:34 am »
I also do not think much of the Enfield brand, but when in India do what the Indians do.......
 

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Re: Royal Enfield talk
« Reply #15 on: December 18, 2018, 04:26:01 pm »
I also do not think much of the Enfield brand, but when in India do what the Indians do.......

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Re: Royal Enfield talk
« Reply #16 on: December 18, 2018, 05:10:54 pm »
Most guys wanna ride a Royal Enfield until they ride a Royal Enfield . . . :patch:
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Re: Royal Enfield talk
« Reply #17 on: December 18, 2018, 07:05:28 pm »
Most guys wanna ride a Royal Enfield until they ride a Royal Enfield . . . :patch:

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I get it, but I as told the best secondhand bike money can buy is a new Royal Enfield and that is good enough for me :deal:

I cannot imagine doing the Himalayas on any other bike. Tons of character and I love classic bikes and mountains.
 

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Re: Royal Enfield talk
« Reply #18 on: December 18, 2018, 07:17:35 pm »
Most guys wanna ride a Royal Enfield until they ride a Royal Enfield . . . :patch:

 :spitcoffee:  :imaposer:

I get it, but I as told the best secondhand bike money can buy is a new Royal Enfield and that is good enough for me :deal:

I cannot imagine doing the Himalayas on any other bike. Tons of character and I love classic bikes and mountains.

I agree, doing the any Indian tour on anything but an Enfield will be less authentic.
 

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Re: Royal Enfield talk
« Reply #19 on: December 18, 2018, 10:12:13 pm »
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