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Offline Lem

Talk to me about lightweight DS options on a budget
« on: January 09, 2019, 11:48:52 am »
Hi Guys

If money was no object I would say that the new CRF250 Rally might well be the perfect bike for my current needs.

I am not a fast rider, but I do enjoy puttering around on quiet back roads and smelling the roses. With a young family I can't get away for too long to hop on a big bike and ride to the next province to go and play there. That is the reason why I recently sold my 1150GS. It started to gather dust.

I do have a lovely little flatbed box trailer with a built in ramp tailgate. I have transported a XT600e on there before, but I would love something even lighter, like a 250 scrambler that I can easily load & tie down myself. Then I can take the family with me down to George for instance from where I can go and do bike trips, hitting the first dirt roads you get out of town or some more technical tracks like the side entry of Baviaans & the Ben10 challenge. I'd like the small bike to take me to the places I would rather never attempt going with the 1150, given my average riding skill. 

The purpose of this thread is not to try and find the most bike for my budget. If I had a R 25k KLR650 for instance I would be inclined to ride it over long distances and then it will simply gather dust and a flat battery like my 1150 did. The purpose is rather to gather info on the best possible lightweight solution around the 250cc mark, based on my needs.

I would like the bike to be relatively modern,  reliable economical, preferably electric start, with taller gearing so that I can cruise at 110kph on the open road without stressing the motor too much. (that is why I like the 6-speed options.) I also want service intervals of around 5000kms and not the 10 hour enduro bike stuff. There must be good spares availability. I also don't want some early 80s 6volt electrics kickstart only, drum brake thumper as I have a degree in commerce and not in mechanical engineering. I want to ride the bike, maintain it and then sell it and not restore it.   

  • My first choice would be a Yamaha TTR250. I have always wanted one and the specs looks lovely. Don't have any questions to ask around them. I know they are freakin amazing...just scarce, hence my thread on other options.

    I like the Suzuki DR250 Djebel a lot as well, I'm just not too fond of the 90s paint schemes and purple rims you often find on them, but otherwise the bike's specs are similar to the TTR, so it will work.

    How is a Honda XR250 Tornado to live with? Does it perform 80% as well as the TTR & Djebel? I reckon it's a bit softer?

    Then...on to the kickstart options. Does anyone know of a good old Honda XLR250R ? Are they difficult starters? Do they need servicing every 200 yards or not?
Then, two leftfield options that sometimes pops up within budget:

1) older model Suzuki DRZ400S - I see they only have 5 gears. If I ride a quiet backroad for two hours at 110kph without stopping...will the motor last? Or will it pop? I am a bit scared of them being a bit highly strung. Advise me if I'm underestimating that motor.

2) and then there is the Yamaha DT175. When I started riding at school in the late 90s, a DT was my absolute dream bike as a laaitie and I simply couldn't afford one at the time. Will the 2stroke DT be alright if I cruise 110kph for two hours straight? I yearn to own one, although I know it has drum brakes front and rear  :lol8: and probably only has kickstart. How does it's performance compare to ... let's say the Honda XR250 Tornado?

Ai...where is 2SD when you need him  :patch:



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Re: Talk to me about lightweight DS options on a budget
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2019, 12:28:13 pm »
Kom praat boeta  :thumleft:
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Re: Talk to me about lightweight DS options on a budget
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2019, 12:30:02 pm »
Kom praat boeta  :thumleft:

haha, geweet jy sal eerste reply  :deal:

Sal jou vroegtydig laat weet en volgende week 'n draai kom maak by die workshop  :thumleft:
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Re: Talk to me about lightweight DS options on a budget
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2019, 12:33:45 pm »
Also look at the KLX250, fuel injected and good suspension, e-start. Was a 2012 model on Gomboom for 28k recently. Not sold in as much quantities as the Tornado and the like.
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Re: Talk to me about lightweight DS options on a budget
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2019, 12:36:15 pm »
Also look at the KLX250, fuel injected and good suspension, e-start. Was a 2012 model on Gomboom for 28k recently. Not sold in as much quantities as the Tornado and the like.

Cool, never knew some of them ever made it to our shores. I remember a video where they compared it to the CRF250L in the USA  :thumleft:
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Re: Talk to me about lightweight DS options on a budget
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2019, 12:41:51 pm »
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Re: Talk to me about lightweight DS options on a budget
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2019, 12:45:03 pm »
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Re: Talk to me about lightweight DS options on a budget
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2019, 01:28:02 pm »
Honda CRF 250L
 

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Re: Talk to me about lightweight DS options on a budget
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2019, 01:37:04 pm »
Honda CRF 250L

ek sou beslis enige dag een koop, hou baie van hulle.

Al probleem is...dan sal ek hom moet finansier en al my rygoed en speelgoed is cash vir die afgelope 7 jaar al en ek wil nie graag daai reel breek nie.

Ek kyk meer na so tussen R 18 000 - R 25 000 cash spandeer op hierdie speelding  :thumleft:
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Re: Talk to me about lightweight DS options on a budget
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2019, 01:42:41 pm »
My first "road trip" I have done with a DRZ 400, Gp to Baviaans, ave speed 110khp. Seat is uncomfortable and no wind protection, no mechanical issues and 10L petrol tank ave 170km range. Still have it today and handed down to my son. I bought a second one and done the NDBA with it. Plan is to do Namibie in the near future with my son. More than capable and services etc can be done by yourself.
The money spend for what you get it is a no brainer.
PS; the 2nd one  I paid 26K with 14000km  on it ,with a long range tank & suspension mod
« Last Edit: January 09, 2019, 01:49:06 pm by trevo »
 
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Re: Talk to me about lightweight DS options on a budget
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2019, 01:45:09 pm »
Kom praat boeta  :thumleft:

haha, geweet jy sal eerste reply  :deal:

Sal jou vroegtydig laat weet en volgende week 'n draai kom maak by die workshop  :thumleft:

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Re: Talk to me about lightweight DS options on a budget
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2019, 01:47:11 pm »
Honda CRF 250L

ek sou beslis enige dag een koop, hou baie van hulle.

Al probleem is...dan sal ek hom moet finansier en al my rygoed en speelgoed is cash vir die afgelope 7 jaar al en ek wil nie graag daai reel breek nie.

Ek kyk meer na so tussen R 18 000 - R 25 000 cash spandeer op hierdie speelding  :thumleft:

Hierdie is nie te ver van jou budget af nie, so as jy aanhou soek en spaar kan jy dalk wel so iets koop?

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Re: Talk to me about lightweight DS options on a budget
« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2019, 01:57:33 pm »
The KLX250 and DR250Djebel is like hens teeth, not sure if they were even sold here, so maybe spares could be a problem. TTR250 great bike if you find a decent one for that price. You can maybe also add XR400, if the kick start is not such an issue. The Honda 250 Tornado may disappoint you. If you shop around a bit the DRZ400 probably your best bet. enough fun and will cruise easily at 110. I may be a bit bias, as the DRZ400 is they only one of the lot I own, but can really recommend. 
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Re: Talk to me about lightweight DS options on a budget
« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2019, 02:11:29 pm »
I'd like the small bike to take me to the places I would rather never attempt going with the 1150....

As long as one of those places it's not where your last small bike took you...The hospital  :3some: :thumleft:
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« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2019, 02:18:21 pm »
Sell the pig and buy a Rally....   ;D
 

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Re: Talk to me about lightweight DS options on a budget
« Reply #15 on: January 09, 2019, 02:18:42 pm »
I'd like the small bike to take me to the places I would rather never attempt going with the 1150....

As long as one of those places it's not where your last small bike took you...The hospital  :3some: :thumleft:

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Wil hierdie een trailer tot op 'n punt en dan trips van daar af doen  :thumleft:
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Re: Talk to me about lightweight DS options on a budget
« Reply #16 on: January 09, 2019, 02:19:45 pm »
Also a big DRZ400 fan, getting a nice clean one is tough though also tough ask for 25k.  Kawa did sell the KLX250 here but it was expensive so not many around (R50 000 new in 2010)

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Re: Talk to me about lightweight DS options on a budget
« Reply #17 on: January 09, 2019, 02:21:20 pm »
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Re: Talk to me about lightweight DS options on a budget
« Reply #18 on: January 09, 2019, 02:22:31 pm »
XR 250 Tornado

Ja?

Wat van hulle?

Hoekom sou jy se hy tiek bokse? Hoe was trips op joune?
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Re: Talk to me about lightweight DS options on a budget
« Reply #19 on: January 09, 2019, 02:27:24 pm »
Kan n Honda XR230 op die pad gesit word?
Nogal taai outjies daai met lektric start.

Paar jaar terug kry ek n ou met n Suzuki ER 250 in Springbok. Hy is vanaf Gauteng op n blomme toer. Nee sÍ hy die two stroke loop lekker op die langpad, maar ook wee die agterkant van daai bike en ruiter se rug en die saalsakke was net n two stroke olie!!!! :o :eek7:
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