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Re: WSBK 2019
« Reply #100 on: April 10, 2019, 02:38:56 pm »
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Re: WSBK 2019
« Reply #101 on: April 10, 2019, 04:32:08 pm »
I see Ducati has been handed a 250 RPM drop and Honda a 500 RPM increase.

Is that enough to make a difference.

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Re: WSBK 2019
« Reply #102 on: April 10, 2019, 04:34:40 pm »
I see Ducati has been handed a 250 RPM drop and Honda a 500 RPM increase.

Is that enough to make a difference.

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" The FIM have published an update to the 2019 MOTUL FIM Superbike World Championship Regulations ahead of the fourth round of the season, set to take place this weekend at the TT Circuit Assen.

As stipulated in the 2019 regulations, the concessions standings have been reviewed at the conclusion of the third round of the MOTUL FIM Superbike World Championship. After six full-distance races, Ducati have scored 20 concession points to Kawasaki’s 13 and Yamaha’s 3.

As the gap between Ducati and Kawasaki is of just 7 points (and thus, below the 9 points required by article 2.4.3.4, paragraph i) of the regulations), neither manufacturer will be allowed a concession parts upgrade during the season. All other manufacturers will be allowed one single update for 2019.

In addition to this, DWO and the FIM, in consultation with their performance analysts, have agreed on an update to two manufacturers’ rev limits. The limit for the Ducati V4 R has been reduced by 250rpm, while the limit for Honda has been increased by 500rpm, to be applied in two steps. Both are with immediate effect."
 

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Re: WSBK 2019
« Reply #103 on: April 10, 2019, 06:42:58 pm »
So now Davies will be slower and Bautista will only be ten seconds ahead ..................... whoopy doo ..................... can't wait  ::)
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Re: WSBK 2019
« Reply #104 on: April 11, 2019, 10:02:58 am »
How much time do these guys spend at the rev limiter anyaway? Isn't the most power made in 70 - 90% of the rev range?
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Re: WSBK 2019
« Reply #105 on: April 11, 2019, 10:16:48 am »
So now Davies will be slower and Bautista will only be ten seconds ahead ..................... whoopy doo ..................... can't wait  ::)

.....and the Ducati's engines will be under less stress and last longer(reliability)  - the Honda's may just throw their internals all over the track with the increased rpm  :biggrin:

Wonder if they thought this through properly .
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Re: WSBK 2019
« Reply #106 on: April 11, 2019, 11:14:09 am »
So now Davies will be slower and Bautista will only be ten seconds ahead ..................... whoopy doo ..................... can't wait  ::)

.....and the Ducati's engines will be under less stress and last longer(reliability)  - the Honda's may just throw their internals all over the track with the increased rpm  :biggrin:

Wonder if they thought this through properly .

It was in play all of last year, so they probably did think about this.  Obviously, Ducati must drop, but Honda is not forced to increase.

How much time do these guys spend at the rev limiter anyaway? Isn't the most power made in 70 - 90% of the rev range?

In a race they probably hit the rev limiter in every gear.
« Last Edit: April 11, 2019, 11:14:52 am by TheBear »
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Re: WSBK 2019
« Reply #107 on: April 11, 2019, 11:17:53 am »
Rev limits as they stand from the start of this weekend on:

Brand: Rev Limit

Aprilia: 14700
BMW: 14950
BMW 2019: 14900
Ducati V2: 12400
Ducati V4: 16100
Honda: 15050
Kawasaki 2018: 14100
Kawasaki 2019: 14600
MV Agusta: 14950
Suzuki: 14900
Yamaha: 14700

Possibly more important than the rev limit changes is that both Ducati and Kawasaki have been denied a concession upgrade during this season, while Yamaha, BMW and Honda are permitted one upgrade which must be provided to all bikes from a manufacturer on the grid.
« Last Edit: April 11, 2019, 12:31:11 pm by TheBear »
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Re: WSBK 2019
« Reply #108 on: April 11, 2019, 12:07:36 pm »
Rev limits as they stand from the start of this weekend on:

Brand: Rev Limit

Aprilia: 14700
BMW: 14950
BMW 2019: 14900
Ducati V2: 12400
Honda: 15050
Kawasaki 2018: 14100
Kawasaki 2019: 14600
MV Agusta: 14950
Suzuki: 14900
Yamaha: 14700

Possibly more important than the rev limit changes is that both Ducati and Kawasaki have been denied a concession upgrade during this season, while Yamaha, BMW and Honda are permitted one upgrade which must be provided to all bikes from a manufacturer on the grid.
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Surely, that figure for Ducati is incorrect - it revs out at16000 rpm
 

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Re: WSBK 2019
« Reply #109 on: April 11, 2019, 12:29:44 pm »
Rev limits as they stand from the start of this weekend on:

Brand: Rev Limit

Aprilia: 14700
BMW: 14950
BMW 2019: 14900
Ducati V2: 12400
Honda: 15050
Kawasaki 2018: 14100
Kawasaki 2019: 14600
MV Agusta: 14950
Suzuki: 14900
Yamaha: 14700

Possibly more important than the rev limit changes is that both Ducati and Kawasaki have been denied a concession upgrade during this season, while Yamaha, BMW and Honda are permitted one upgrade which must be provided to all bikes from a manufacturer on the grid.

Surely, that figure for Ducati is incorrect - it revs out at16000 rpm

No, it isn't incorrect.  The figure of 12400 above  is for the Ducati V2. 

You are correct.  I screwed up the copy and paste.  The Ducati V4 is now at 16100.  Corrected in the original post.
« Last Edit: April 11, 2019, 12:31:27 pm by TheBear »
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Re: WSBK 2019
« Reply #110 on: April 11, 2019, 12:58:28 pm »
Rev limits as they stand from the start of this weekend on:

Brand: Rev Limit

Aprilia: 14700
BMW: 14950
BMW 2019: 14900
Ducati V2: 12400
Honda: 15050
Kawasaki 2018: 14100
Kawasaki 2019: 14600
MV Agusta: 14950
Suzuki: 14900
Yamaha: 14700

Possibly more important than the rev limit changes is that both Ducati and Kawasaki have been denied a concession upgrade during this season, while Yamaha, BMW and Honda are permitted one upgrade which must be provided to all bikes from a manufacturer on the grid.

Surely, that figure for Ducati is incorrect - it revs out at16000 rpm

No, it isn't incorrect.  The figure of 12400 above  is for the Ducati V2. 

You are correct.  I screwed up the copy and paste.  The Ducati V4 is now at 16100.  Corrected in the original post.

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Re: WSBK 2019
« Reply #111 on: April 12, 2019, 11:48:24 am »
From Assen in Holland.  It is only FP1, but rev limiter or track suiting a bike?

1.  Rea. Kawa
2.  VD Mark, Yamie
3.  Sykes, BMW
4.  Bautista, Duc
5.  Davies, Duc
6.  Reiterberger, BMW
7.  Haslam, Kawa
8.  Razgatkioglu, Kawa
9.  Lowes, Yamie
10. Torres, Kawa
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Re: WSBK 2019
« Reply #112 on: April 12, 2019, 11:49:38 am »
From Assen in Holland.  It is only FP1, but rev limiter or track suiting a bike?

1.  Rea. Kawa
2.  VD Mark, Yamie
3.  Sykes, BMW
4.  Bautista, Duc
5.  Davies, Duc
6.  Reiterberger, BMW
7.  Haslam, Kawa
8.  Razgatkioglu, Kawa
9.  Lowes, Yamie
10. Torres, Kawa
 

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Re: WSBK 2019
« Reply #113 on: April 12, 2019, 12:11:42 pm »
Having said "it is only FP1" and RobD kindly bolding that for us, FP1 results this season so far for Bautista:

Australia:  2nd by 0,02s
Thailand: 1st by 0,19s
Aragon: 1st by 1.12s.

Being 4th is a disgrace!   :lol8:
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Re: WSBK 2019
« Reply #114 on: April 13, 2019, 03:24:27 pm »
Nah, he's injured - lost one of his arms, I'm told.

He was lucky not to lose the other one as well ..................... then he'd be down at about 8th or 9th.
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Re: WSBK 2019
« Reply #115 on: April 15, 2019, 09:00:53 am »
Nah, he's injured - lost one of his arms, I'm told.

He was lucky not to lose the other one as well ..................... then he'd be down at about 8th or 9th.

 :laughing4: :laughing4:

Well, another rev limit reduction, say 8 000 rpm, or so and he may well finish 2nd.
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Re: WSBK 2019
« Reply #116 on: April 15, 2019, 11:31:49 am »
From Assen in Holland.  It is only FP1, but rev limiter or track suiting a bike?

1.  Rea. Kawa
2.  VD Mark, Yamie
3.  Sykes, BMW
4.  Bautista, Duc
5.  Davies, Duc
6.  Reiterberger, BMW
7.  Haslam, Kawa
8.  Razgatkioglu, Kawa
9.  Lowes, Yamie
10. Torres, Kawa

Only Bautista who basically turned around on FP1 - lower revs & all  ;)  - Governing desk top fools will now probably drop 10kg ballast on the Ducs, to make for closer racing  ::)
VD Mark had good races at his home track.
 

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Re: WSBK 2019
« Reply #117 on: April 15, 2019, 11:44:55 am »
From Assen in Holland.  It is only FP1, but rev limiter or track suiting a bike?

1.  Rea. Kawa
2.  VD Mark, Yamie
3.  Sykes, BMW
4.  Bautista, Duc
5.  Davies, Duc
6.  Reiterberger, BMW
7.  Haslam, Kawa
8.  Razgatkioglu, Kawa
9.  Lowes, Yamie
10. Torres, Kawa

Only Bautista who basically turned around on FP1 - lower revs & all  ;)  - Governing desk top fools will now probably drop 10kg ballast on the Ducs, to make for closer racing  ::)
VD Mark had good races at his home track.

That overtake around the outside was a high speed BIG BALLS move indeed......
 

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Re: WSBK 2019
« Reply #118 on: April 15, 2019, 12:19:09 pm »
From Assen in Holland.  It is only FP1, but rev limiter or track suiting a bike?

1.  Rea. Kawa
2.  VD Mark, Yamie
3.  Sykes, BMW
4.  Bautista, Duc
5.  Davies, Duc
6.  Reiterberger, BMW
7.  Haslam, Kawa
8.  Razgatkioglu, Kawa
9.  Lowes, Yamie
10. Torres, Kawa

Only Bautista who basically turned around on FP1 - lower revs & all  ;)  - Governing desk top fools will now probably drop 10kg ballast on the Ducs, to make for closer racing  ::)
VD Mark had good races at his home track.

That overtake around the outside was a high speed BIG BALLS move indeed......

Brilliant move, he out - smarted the tight Rea there  :thumleft:
 

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Re: WSBK 2019
« Reply #119 on: April 21, 2019, 11:15:40 am »
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