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Re: WSBK 2019
« Reply #20 on: February 19, 2019, 11:57:20 am »
they still have different regulations for different bikes !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: WSBK 2019
« Reply #21 on: February 19, 2019, 12:38:51 pm »
Let's hope Davies catches a wake-up.
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Re: WSBK 2019
« Reply #22 on: February 19, 2019, 12:59:15 pm »
they still have different regulations for different bikes !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't see the rev limitation as different regulations for different bikes since the limits are basically set, at the start of the season, to be no more than 3,3% over stock for that model.   During the season, these can be changed to attempt closer racing, if required.
« Last Edit: February 19, 2019, 01:00:03 pm by TheBear »
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Re: WSBK 2019
« Reply #23 on: February 19, 2019, 02:15:42 pm »
FIM Superbike World Champonship Technical Regulations - Rev Limits:

BMW S1000RR:  14900
Kawasaki ZX10 RR:  14600
Ducati V4R: 16350
Why ? Ducati being favoured again as in the 90's ?
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Re: WSBK 2019
« Reply #24 on: February 19, 2019, 02:31:12 pm »
FIM Superbike World Champonship Technical Regulations - Rev Limits:

BMW S1000RR:  14900
Kawasaki ZX10 RR:  14600
Ducati V4R: 16350
Why ? Ducati being favoured again as in the 90's ?

Nope, just the engine characteristics.
Seems the 90 's Duc domination left you with heavy scars  :laughing4:
 

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Re: WSBK 2019
« Reply #25 on: February 19, 2019, 02:38:26 pm »
FIM Superbike World Champonship Technical Regulations - Rev Limits:

BMW S1000RR:  14900
Kawasaki ZX10 RR:  14600
Ducati V4R: 16350
Why ? Ducati being favoured again as in the 90's ?

Nope, just the engine characteristics.
Seems the 90 's Duc domination left you with heavy scars  :laughing4:
Oh how I cheered for the Japanese to beat Ducati at every opportunity !
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Re: WSBK 2019
« Reply #26 on: February 19, 2019, 02:53:34 pm »
FIM Superbike World Champonship Technical Regulations - Rev Limits:

BMW S1000RR:  14900
Kawasaki ZX10 RR:  14600
Ducati V4R: 16350
Why ? Ducati being favoured again as in the 90's ?

I don't see the rev limitation as different regulations for different bikes since the limits are basically set, at the start of the season, to be no more than 3,3% over stock for that model.   During the season, these can be changed to attempt closer racing, if required.
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Re: WSBK 2019
« Reply #27 on: February 19, 2019, 02:59:53 pm »
FIM Superbike World Champonship Technical Regulations - Rev Limits:

BMW S1000RR:  14900
Kawasaki ZX10 RR:  14600
Ducati V4R: 16350
Why ? Ducati being favoured again as in the 90's ?


Nope, just the engine characteristics.
Seems the 90 's Duc domination left you with heavy scars  :laughing4:
Oh how I cheered for the Japanese to beat Ducati at every opportunity !

Shame on you - just a low revving twin engine vs high revving fours  ;)
 

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Re: WSBK 2019
« Reply #28 on: February 20, 2019, 07:41:29 am »
FIM Superbike World Champonship Technical Regulations - Rev Limits:

BMW S1000RR:  14900
Kawasaki ZX10 RR:  14600
Ducati V4R: 16350
Why ? Ducati being favoured again as in the 90's ?


Nope, just the engine characteristics.
Seems the 90 's Duc domination left you with heavy scars  :laughing4:
Oh how I cheered for the Japanese to beat Ducati at every opportunity !

Shame on you - just a low revving twin engine vs high revving fours  ;)

Now it is a very high revving V4 versus high revving fours.  That V4R Paningale is closer to a MotoGP bike than 2SD is to being a BMW hater.
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Re: WSBK 2019
« Reply #29 on: February 20, 2019, 03:44:37 pm »
FIM Superbike World Champonship Technical Regulations - Rev Limits:

BMW S1000RR:  14900
Kawasaki ZX10 RR:  14600
Ducati V4R: 16350
Why ? Ducati being favoured again as in the 90's ?


Nope, just the engine characteristics.
Seems the 90 's Duc domination left you with heavy scars  :laughing4:
Oh how I cheered for the Japanese to beat Ducati at every opportunity !

Shame on you - just a low revving twin engine vs high revving fours  ;)
Japanese had 150 plus less cc's and intake restrictions from what I can remember
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Re: WSBK 2019
« Reply #30 on: February 20, 2019, 06:33:19 pm »
they still have different regulations for different bikes !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't see the rev limitation as different regulations for different bikes since the limits are basically set, at the start of the season, to be no more than 3,3% over stock for that model.   During the season, these can be changed to attempt closer racing, if required.


 ahhh , i guess thats why Castor is allowed to run with girls  :thumleft:
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Re: WSBK 2019
« Reply #31 on: February 20, 2019, 07:51:42 pm »
FIM Superbike World Champonship Technical Regulations - Rev Limits:

BMW S1000RR:  14900
Kawasaki ZX10 RR:  14600
Ducati V4R: 16350
Why ? Ducati being favoured again as in the 90's ?


Nope, just the engine characteristics.
Seems the 90 's Duc domination left you with heavy scars  :laughing4:
Oh how I cheered for the Japanese to beat Ducati at every opportunity !

Shame on you - just a low revving twin engine vs high revving fours  ;)
Japanese had 150 plus less cc's and intake restrictions from what I can remember

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Re: WSBK 2019
« Reply #32 on: February 21, 2019, 07:47:01 am »
FIM Superbike World Champonship Technical Regulations - Rev Limits:

BMW S1000RR:  14900
Kawasaki ZX10 RR:  14600
Ducati V4R: 16350
Why ? Ducati being favoured again as in the 90's ?


Nope, just the engine characteristics.
Seems the 90 's Duc domination left you with heavy scars  :laughing4:
Oh how I cheered for the Japanese to beat Ducati at every opportunity !

Shame on you - just a low revving twin engine vs high revving fours  ;)
Japanese had 150 plus less cc's and intake restrictions from what I can remember

The WSBK 1000cc Racing class allows for bikes of 4 cyl/1000cc, or 3 cyl/1100cc or 2 cyl/1200cc.  No different to the current 600cc or even 300cc class which have bikes of different cc capacity.  This is just to allow more manufacturers into the fold with rules as equal as possible, no so much to allow Ducati to dominate.  There are no Ducatis in the 600cc and 300cc class and they also have various restrictions and varying capacity bikes.  During the past two years or so, it was the Ducatis that ran with intake restrictions.
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Re: WSBK 2019
« Reply #33 on: February 21, 2019, 08:00:10 am »
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Re: WSBK 2019
« Reply #34 on: February 21, 2019, 08:37:00 am »
So, this weekend we see the start of what WSBK marketing gurus call the "triple treat" from Philip Island, Australia.

Race 1:  Saturday at 06:00 our time
Race 2:  Sunday at 03:00 our time
Race 3:  Sunday at 06:00 our time

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Re: WSBK 2019
« Reply #35 on: February 22, 2019, 08:29:22 am »
Phillip Island Race Weekend.

WSBK FP1:

1 1 J. REA GBR Kawasaki Racing Team WorldSBK Kawasaki ZX-10RR 1'30.341 21 177,129 311,2
2 19 A. BAUTISTA ESP ARUBA.IT Racing - Ducati Ducati Panigale V4 R 1'30.362 0.021 0.021 21 177,088 316,7
3 91 L. HASLAM GBR Kawasaki Racing Team WorldSBK Kawasaki ZX-10RR 1'30.499 0.158 0.137 19 176,820 310,3
4 66 T. SYKES GBR BMW Motorrad WorldSBK Team BMW S1000 RR 1'30.664 0.323 0.165 20 176,498 299,2
5 11 S. CORTESE GER GRT Yamaha WorldSBK Yamaha YZF R1 IND 1'30.850 0.509 0.186 18 176,136 307,7
6 28 M. REITERBERGER GER BMW Motorrad WorldSBK Team BMW S1000 RR 1'30.862 0.521 0.012 22 176,113 302,5
7 2 L. CAMIER GBR Moriwaki Althea Honda Team Honda CBR1000RR 1'31.024 0.683 0.162 21 175,800 306,8
8 60 M. VAN DER MARK NED Pata Yamaha WorldSBK Team Yamaha YZF R1 1'31.060 0.719 0.036 19 175,730 312,1
9 81 J. TORRES ESP Team Pedercini Racing Kawasaki ZX-10RR IND 1'31.146 0.805 0.086 21 175,564 310,3
10 22 A. LOWES GBR Pata Yamaha WorldSBK Team Yamaha YZF R1 1'31.285 0.944 0.139 21 175,297 310,3
11 7 C. DAVIES GBR ARUBA.IT Racing - Ducati Ducati Panigale V4 R 1'31.334 0.993 0.049 21 175,203 315,8
12 33 M. MELANDRI ITA GRT Yamaha WorldSBK Yamaha YZF R1 IND 1'31.355 1.014 0.021 22 175,163 309,5
13 54 T. RAZGATLIOGLU TUR Turkish Puccetti Racing Kawasaki ZX-10RR IND 1'31.599 1.258 0.244 19 174,696 300,8
14 36 L. MERCADO ARG Orelac Racing VerdNatura Kawasaki ZX-10RR IND 1'31.847 1.506 0.248 20 174,225 304,2
15 21 M. RINALDI ITA BARNI Racing Team Ducati Panigale V4 R IND 1'31.855 1.514 0.008 20 174,209 314,0
16 23 R. KIYONARI JPN Moriwaki Althea Honda Team Honda CBR1000RR 1'31.940 1.599 0.085 21 174,048 305,9
17 50 E. LAVERTY IRL Team Goeleven Ducati Panigale V4 R IND 1'32.095 1.754 0.155 19 173,755 306,8
18 52 A. DELBIANCO ITA Althea Mie Racing Team Honda CBR1000RR IND 1'32.669 2.328 0.574 14 172,679 300,8
19 17 T. HERFOSS AUS Penrite Honda Racing Honda CBR1000RR IND 1'34.324 3.983 1.655 11 169,649 293,5

WSBK FP2:

1 19 A. BAUTISTA ESP ARUBA.IT Racing - Ducati Ducati Panigale V4 R 1'30.327 25 177,156 316,7
2 1 J. REA GBR Kawasaki Racing Team WorldSBK Kawasaki ZX-10RR 1'30.367 0.040 0.040 25 177,078 307,7
3 91 L. HASLAM GBR Kawasaki Racing Team WorldSBK Kawasaki ZX-10RR 1'30.482 0.155 0.115 26 176,853 311,2
4 22 A. LOWES GBR Pata Yamaha WorldSBK Team Yamaha YZF R1 1'30.783 0.456 0.301 23 176,266 305,9
5 2 L. CAMIER GBR Moriwaki Althea Honda Team Honda CBR1000RR 1'30.792 0.465 0.009 24 176,249 305,9
6 60 M. VAN DER MARK NED Pata Yamaha WorldSBK Team Yamaha YZF R1 1'31.049 0.722 0.257 28 175,752 308,6
7 54 T. RAZGATLIOGLU TUR Turkish Puccetti Racing Kawasaki ZX-10RR IND 1'31.125 0.798 0.076 19 175,605 306,8
8 21 M. RINALDI ITA BARNI Racing Team Ducati Panigale V4 R IND 1'31.238 0.911 0.113 23 175,387 310,3
9 33 M. MELANDRI ITA GRT Yamaha WorldSBK Yamaha YZF R1 IND 1'31.259 0.932 0.021 17 175,347 307,7
10 66 T. SYKES GBR BMW Motorrad WorldSBK Team BMW S1000 RR 1'31.335 1.008 0.076 16 175,201 298,3
11 11 S. CORTESE GER GRT Yamaha WorldSBK Yamaha YZF R1 IND 1'31.362 1.035 0.027 21 175,149 303,4
12 50 E. LAVERTY IRL Team Goeleven Ducati Panigale V4 R IND 1'31.403 1.076 0.041 17 175,071 306,8
13 7 C. DAVIES GBR ARUBA.IT Racing - Ducati Ducati Panigale V4 R 1'31.484 1.157 0.081 20 174,916 312,1
14 36 L. MERCADO ARG Orelac Racing VerdNatura Kawasaki ZX-10RR IND 1'31.545 1.218 0.061 17 174,799 300,0
15 28 M. REITERBERGER GER BMW Motorrad WorldSBK Team BMW S1000 RR 1'31.594 1.267 0.049 20 174,706 300,0
16 81 J. TORRES ESP Team Pedercini Racing Kawasaki ZX-10RR IND 1'31.595 1.268 0.001 21 174,704 300,8
17 23 R. KIYONARI JPN Moriwaki Althea Honda Team Honda CBR1000RR 1'31.790 1.463 0.195 14 174,333 305,1
18 52 A. DELBIANCO ITA Althea Mie Racing Team Honda CBR1000RR IND 1'33.017 2.690 1.227 16 172,033 295,9
19 17 T. HERFOSS AUS Penrite Honda Racing Honda CBR1000RR IND 1'34.654 4.327 1.637 5 169,058 293,5
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Re: WSBK 2019
« Reply #36 on: February 23, 2019, 06:33:38 am »
Well well well. That Ducati is a beast. Sounds like the gp version. The filed looks much better already than previous years. BMW sort there top end out and Sykes would have been right in it. Let's see what happens tomorrow
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Re: WSBK 2019
« Reply #37 on: February 23, 2019, 07:26:41 am »
One swallow does not a summer make, but Bautista on that Ducati gave notice.  Loudly, brutally and unmistakenly so.  He looked like he was on Dovi's GP bike.  Nice to see Haslam being able to stay with Rea on similar bikes and the 4 Yamahas seems to be in the running as well.  Sykes also seems close to the top.  With a bit of luck we may well have a WSBK season worth watching.  I am really drooling in anticipation for the sprint race tomorrow.  It would be very interesting to see these guys go hammer and thongs with no worries over tyre life. 
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Re: WSBK 2019
« Reply #38 on: February 23, 2019, 09:18:06 am »
Looking interesting this year 😎
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Re: WSBK 2019
« Reply #39 on: February 23, 2019, 09:25:07 am »
Well well well. That Ducati is a beast. Sounds like the gp version. The filed looks much better already than previous years. BMW sort there top end out and Sykes would have been right in it. Let's see what happens tomorrow

That Ducati is a beast indeed and pretty much a homologation special.  The V4 engine is very similar to the engine in the MGP bike.  When Ducati launched their replacement for the V2 Paningale and it was 1100cc many people thought they were nuts.  A 4 cylinder 1100cc could not race in any SBK class anywhere in the world.  Then they announced the "R" version which was only 1000cc.  Still strange that a manufacturer should have a 1100cc superbike for sale and its "R"  version is 100cc less.  Well, we saw the result.  A beast!
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