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Offline Sheepman

To Chop a Classic Bike - Yes or No
« on: March 05, 2019, 02:57:41 pm »
Some of the responses to a beautiful Guzzi Monza V50 advertised in the for sale Section, prompted me to this question.
So, would you park it in the shed, grab a beer and a grinder and chop it ?  Or
Would you park it in the shed, grab a few beers and start to plot a refurbishment plan to get it to its original state....and then of course, implement that plan ?
 

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Re: To Chop a Classic Bike - Yes or No
« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2019, 03:12:57 pm »
Personally, I think only stuffed classics should be chopped. If the condition is good, such as the Guzzi in question, rather keep it original. But, that's just me.
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Re: To Chop a Classic Bike - Yes or No
« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2019, 03:16:35 pm »
Personally, I think only stuffed classics should be chopped. If the condition is good, such as the Guzzi in question, rather keep it original. But, that's just me.

Agreed 8)
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Re: To Chop a Classic Bike - Yes or No
« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2019, 03:25:45 pm »
Totally agree. :3some:

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Re: To Chop a Classic Bike - Yes or No
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2019, 03:40:01 pm »
Agree agree
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Re: To Chop a Classic Bike - Yes or No
« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2019, 03:56:05 pm »
I also agree. I also wanted to have a custom and told myself the same thing. Then I started looking around and as it is with the stuffed up classics is that you will through a lot of money at it and you will still not be able to use it..and you will always have to work on the thing...and that's when I decided I'll rather take a decent one and customize it. But you only have to do it once :o :biggrin: then you will never be able to sell it because you spent "way" to much on it :imaposer:
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Re: To Chop a Classic Bike - Yes or No
« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2019, 04:00:03 pm »
Nothing wrong with chopping mass produced good but non classic bikes (CX500, CD200's etc.) , but hacking into something like a Honda CB four eish  :'(
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Re: To Chop a Classic Bike - Yes or No
« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2019, 04:07:42 pm »
I have the same issue with my CB.

Sure, it looks great in pictures, but the more I've taken it apart the more shit I've found.  So I guess I see it as a pile of rusty bits more than a classic, although it is pretty much complete.


I might just mess with the final 2 inches of the tail, change the seat and then leave everything else alone, just restore the frame, leave the old paint on the tank etc.
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Re: To Chop a Classic Bike - Yes or No
« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2019, 04:19:56 pm »
Would you take a Rembrandt or a Monet and colour it in and cut it a bit to fit you post-modern, minimalistic dining room? Sure you can do that. The Vandals did that. Unfortunately we have not much to nothing left of their existence on this earth. To care for and protect the legacies of greater people that had gone before us makes us civilised. And our grandchildren will appreciate it one day.
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Re: To Chop a Classic Bike - Yes or No
« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2019, 04:31:27 pm »
Depends on what you define as a classic.
If numbers are limited, then it would be sacrilege.
If theres a ton of them around, then chop at your leisure.
 
 

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Re: To Chop a Classic Bike - Yes or No
« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2019, 04:52:07 pm »
Agree.
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Re: To Chop a Classic Bike - Yes or No
« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2019, 05:25:07 pm »
If you wish to chop then at least be able to go back to original - ensure you have a set of original parts that have not been ruined. Chopped bikes go out of fashion and once the original tinware has been dumped there is no going back.

I come across chopped vintage bikes from time to time which are really difficult to return to original due to the scarcity of the original tinware. My favourite botch is chopping the rear of the frame off and fashioning some weird tubular extension to fit a bumbox or some other dumb contraption for the sake of "style".
 

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Re: To Chop a Classic Bike - Yes or No
« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2019, 06:08:58 pm »
Depends on what you define as a classic.
If numbers are limited, then it would be sacrilege.
If theres a ton of them around, then chop at your leisure.
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Re: To Chop a Classic Bike - Yes or No
« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2019, 07:25:27 pm »
Depends on what you define as a classic.
If numbers are limited, then it would be sacrilege.
If theres a ton of them around, then chop at your leisure.

Agree , although I personally don't like the idea of chopping , I prefer to change things without cutting or welding on the frame , basically no permanent changes , that way if you tire of what you have done it can go back to standard .
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Re: To Chop a Classic Bike - Yes or No
« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2019, 10:46:44 am »
Quite apart from the purist view, when you alter the bike, I am taking you are a qualified mechanical engineer and know what effect your changes will have on handling etc etc, to ensure you are not building a death trap. That is if you intend riding the bike and it is not only a showpiece, in which case you could be putting huge 350 back tyre on and modify the swingarm to fit, don't laugh I saw an idiot  that did just that to a 1300 Kwacker at a rally once!
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Re: To Chop a Classic Bike - Yes or No
« Reply #15 on: March 09, 2019, 11:51:34 am »
Keep it as it is, with a refresh, only.
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Re: To Chop a Classic Bike - Yes or No
« Reply #16 on: March 11, 2019, 03:03:46 pm »
The trend of chopped BM's is a good case in point, imo a good number of solid original boxer examples have been turned into something they were never meant to be, and just cannot be.... have yet to see a Boxer Cafe racer that actually appeals to me... :P ;D
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Re: To Chop a Classic Bike - Yes or No
« Reply #17 on: March 11, 2019, 03:17:29 pm »
Sny die flippen ding man.

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Re: To Chop a Classic Bike - Yes or No
« Reply #18 on: March 11, 2019, 03:23:20 pm »
Depends on what you define as a classic.
If numbers are limited, then it would be sacrilege.
If theres a ton of them around, then chop at your leisure.

Agree , although I personally don't like the idea of chopping , I prefer to change things without cutting or welding on the frame , basically no permanent changes , that way if you tire of what you have done it can go back to standard .

I also agree but then I questioned it and thought: Why?  Why do we want to keep originals.

So many bikes and cars that don't exist anymore. Why do we want to keep samples of all of them.
Same goes for old building which we burden ourselves with laws to keep them.

Can only think of:
- It is nice to look at or see.
- If it might have monetary value in the future.

If it is really nice to look at for the majority of people then it will have monetary value....
 

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Re: To Chop a Classic Bike - Yes or No
« Reply #19 on: March 11, 2019, 03:27:01 pm »
Are you a bike collector? if no then chop it

Are you planning on keeping the bike for another 15 years to try and get more money for it as a classic.. if no then chop it.

Will you ride it and enjoy it more if it in a different style.. then chop it

You hear of stories about someone , usually our grandfathers or fathers who owned some car... we hear it all the time, if they held onto it then it would be worth millions, if you feel like this will be you in 60 years then put a cover over it and forget about it.

In the end I wanted to chop my BMW100R because the bike was actually a piece of shit, it was horrible to ride, it wouldnt turn, it stopped if it felt like it on old drum breaks and it looked terrible, any amount of chopping would have made that bike better.

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