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Zims and fuel
« on: March 15, 2019, 10:31:06 am »
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I am arranging a family and friend get together on Lake Kariba next month..Big 60 bash! I would like to say all welcome, but cash is few  :'(

I am being asked if travellers can carry their own extra fuel from SA as reports are of shortages and BS about carrying fuel? Heard about a max of 20lt allowed. Suppose in case you are suspected of dealing.
Also is anyone aware if fuel is readily available along the main routes either from Beitbridge or Plumtree?

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Re: Zims and fuel
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2019, 11:08:55 am »
We wanted to ride Zim in December. We were advised no fuel ,and then there is a queue of 8kms and you still only get a few litres .Not worth it.
 

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Re: Zims and fuel
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2019, 03:08:41 pm »
Seems situation changes daily. I'm told some days plenty, next day not.
Have to play it by ear I suppose.
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Re: Zims and fuel
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2019, 06:56:02 am »
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Re: Zims and fuel
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2019, 09:07:53 am »
A mate of mine went through southern ZIm 2 weeks ago and he took fuel over with him, he said that at the border there are 'officials' who demand that you give them some of your fuel when you cross over. He was carrying 20L and gave 5L away to get through .. he said that if you are a truck carrying 1000L of diesel they take 50 - 100L , then they sell it on the black market, he said there was a queue of people waiting to buy the fuel they stole.

Apparently these are organised gangs at the border controlled by the border authorities who take their cut for the guys operating there and taking fuel out of anything that can be syphoned

Now as stories go it may be exaggerated but in a country where people are surviving by being opportunistic i would at the very least be more alert to these kinds of things happening.
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Re: Zims and fuel
« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2019, 11:08:31 am »
Kids are driving up through Beitbridge on Saturday, anyone have any idea of expected time to get through both sides, seeing as it's so close to Easter?
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Re: Zims and fuel
« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2019, 11:12:28 am »
Hi Steve, suggest they rather get to another post, Beitbridge is the worst of them all, two alternatives, one on each side, maybe check on Google. Personally I will never go through Bitbrdge again, rather stay home, it will not get me in jail.
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Re: Zims and fuel
« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2019, 11:38:07 am »
Hi Steve, suggest they rather get to another post, Beitbridge is the worst of them all, two alternatives, one on each side, maybe check on Google. Personally I will never go through Bitbrdge again, rather stay home, it will not get me in jail.

I hear you Francois but the kids insist, seeing as they have left the planning to the last minute. If you dumb you gotta be tuff!! They need to be in Kariba on Monday morning or I'm casting off and leaving them behind.
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Re: Zims and fuel
« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2019, 12:39:02 pm »
Would it not be a better safer bet to go thru Botswana and Zambia , I know its further but will probably be quicker and cheaper !
 

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Re: Zims and fuel
« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2019, 12:53:04 pm »
Kids are driving up through Beitbridge on Saturday, anyone have any idea of expected time to get through both sides, seeing as it's so close to Easter?

I would budget about 3 hours for both sides, but Easter is still a couple of weekends away so could be quicker than that


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Re: Zims and fuel
« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2019, 01:05:07 pm »
Would it not be a better safer bet to go thru Botswana and Zambia , I know its further but will probably be quicker and cheaper !

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« Reply #11 on: April 01, 2019, 01:26:10 pm »
Would it not be a better safer bet to go thru Botswana and Zambia , I know its further but will probably be quicker and cheaper !

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With two extra borders there's not much to be gained me thinks...
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« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2019, 03:34:52 pm »
Would it not be a better safer bet to go thru Botswana and Zambia , I know its further but will probably be quicker and cheaper !

Jip.

With two extra borders there's not much to be gained me thinks...

You may be right.
But at least they wont run out of fuel.


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Re: Zims and fuel
« Reply #13 on: April 01, 2019, 04:35:17 pm »
Would it not be a better safer bet to go thru Botswana and Zambia , I know its further but will probably be quicker and cheaper !

Jip.

With two extra borders there's not much to be gained me thinks...

You may be right.
But at least they wont run out of fuel.
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Re: Zims and fuel
« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2019, 12:16:53 am »
Agree, rather have them go up through Botswana and then Plumtree.

If the go through Beitbridge have them scrutinise the VIN and plate numbers on their temp import permit, I have seen how the shysters change an L to a 1 or something similar and then their "buddy" up the road stops and finds the error forcing a fine. Even in these situations its worth not caving and refusing to pay any fine. Eventually after an hour or two of standing in the hot sun they get tired and let you go scott free. But in the words of Yoda "patience you need to have my young apprentice" ;D :deal:
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Re: Zims and fuel
« Reply #15 on: April 23, 2019, 05:18:25 pm »
So Zim trip done and dusted. Kids came through Beitbridge. Apart from the SA side which was extremely slow everything went fine. Diesel available wherever you flashed USD.
As an aside, corruption is very healthy and blatant thank you on the SA border. Officials fleecing all the illegals to allow them to cross.
A mate who rode up from the Cape went the long way around through Bots and into Zambia to Livingstone then around to Kariba through Zam. Zam border vehicle importation a shambles, costly and time-consuming. You need a runner to sort all the crap out.
I'll try get some details from the others about the border crossings. My wife and I used taxis and foot to cross at Kariba and were politely and efficiently moved on our way.
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Re: Zims and fuel
« Reply #16 on: April 24, 2019, 05:22:00 am »
Thanks for the update - useful to hear.

That Kazangula border into Zambia is an expensive fiasco. Done it a few times but it is possible to do it without a runner with patience and some stubborness. The Zambian/Zim border at Chirundu is just as bad.
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« Reply #17 on: April 24, 2019, 08:07:34 am »
Thanks for the update - useful to hear.

That Kazangula border into Zambia is an expensive fiasco. Done it a few times but it is possible to do it without a runner with patience and some stubborness. The Zambian/Zim border at Chirundu is just as bad.

Anything involving a vehicle is a total shambles with new levy's and taxes being dreamed up all the time and no idea of the process or whereabouts of the pirates/agents. Per foot was a pleasure though.
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Re: Zims and fuel
« Reply #18 on: April 24, 2019, 08:12:15 am »
So Zim trip done and dusted. Kids came through Beitbridge. Apart from the SA side which was extremely slow everything went fine. Diesel available wherever you flashed USD.
As an aside, corruption is very healthy and blatant thank you on the SA border. Officials fleecing all the illegals to allow them to cross.
A mate who rode up from the Cape went the long way around through Bots and into Zambia to Livingstone then around to Kariba through Zam. Zam border vehicle importation a shambles, costly and time-consuming. You need a runner to sort all the crap out.
I'll try get some details from the others about the border crossings. My wife and I used taxis and foot to cross at Kariba and were politely and efficiently moved on our way.
The houseboat trip was superb.

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thanks for the feedback, got a houseboat trip planned for July and can't wait!
How was the fishing and game viewing, and what was your route on the lake?


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« Reply #19 on: April 24, 2019, 03:29:51 pm »
So Zim trip done and dusted. Kids came through Beitbridge. Apart from the SA side which was extremely slow everything went fine. Diesel available wherever you flashed USD.
As an aside, corruption is very healthy and blatant thank you on the SA border. Officials fleecing all the illegals to allow them to cross.
A mate who rode up from the Cape went the long way around through Bots and into Zambia to Livingstone then around to Kariba through Zam. Zam border vehicle importation a shambles, costly and time-consuming. You need a runner to sort all the crap out.
I'll try get some details from the others about the border crossings. My wife and I used taxis and foot to cross at Kariba and were politely and efficiently moved on our way.
The houseboat trip was superb.

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thanks for the feedback, got a houseboat trip planned for July and can't wait!
How was the fishing and game viewing, and what was your route on the lake?

Fishing poor for Tiger but plenty bream. July will be getting better.
The dam is very low right now as works are being done below the wall to fix it before it floats away. About in the 40% range. Chinese in Zam side also over generating for their own use isn't helping.
Day one was up at Elephant Point, close to Bumi Hills, for the night. Needless to say lots of eli's.
All the other days we moved a little closer to Kariba.
Generally the game viewing was eli's, hippo, impala, crocs and plenty birdlfe. I was surprised at not seeing buffalo, but poaching is still big business.
You will enjoy.

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