Author Topic: Load shedding and the economy (Read 3594 times)

Noneking · « **Reply #40 on:** March 20, 2019, 04:50:00 am »

My rooms are inside a private hospital where we run a huge Volvo generator. Also a second, smaller generator which runs as back-up for theatres should first generator fail. Not sure about the output but generator and housing about the size of a single garage. In the last 6 days we have used R15k worth of diesel. Water supply already affected in Nelspruit. We have 10000l on roof of hospital and bowser on standby should that supply run out.

Massive impact on running cost for body corporate which obviously trickles through to all owners. At least load shedding has no effect on my ability to work at this stage

Welsh · « **Reply #41 on:** March 20, 2019, 06:01:08 am »

Joburg traffic is never good, but when the lights go off at a William Nicol the people can’t get off the highway, so it stops, then the alternate routes gridlock, people must have taken hours to get home last night.

Draadwerk · « **Reply #42 on:** March 20, 2019, 06:51:11 am »

Quote from: KiLRoy on March 19, 2019, 11:49:56 pm

Is it not possible to use battery powered recorders and minimum lights? Surely there must be a simple plan to be made?

No - the new recording devices are actually computers - they also backup to a central server in JHB.

You won't believe how dark the court building is without lights - minimum windows. And then there is also the issue of aircon - not that it is working most of the days anyway....

Nope - nothing to be done - the scales of justice apparently also do not work once loadshedding starts

chicco · « **Reply #43 on:** March 20, 2019, 06:58:33 am »

Had to go for a new passport at home affairs, They are already overloaded and can only do about 140 people a day so you need to be there at 05h00 in the morning to ensure you get in for the day. so I was sitting on a camping chair from 5 to 8 untill the doors open, I was about 10th in line, took them an hour to get the system online.....then things started to move, load shedding at 10,, I was 2nd by that time, so had a to wait 2 hours untill power back on....again 30 min to get system online, I walked out 12h50.......

KiLRoy · « **Reply #44 on:** March 20, 2019, 07:01:10 am »

Jeez, why the already slow wheels of justice must get even slower when a simple device will suffice is beyond me. But as you said, even the gennies dont run.

Maverick · « **Reply #45 on:** March 20, 2019, 08:23:52 am »

I have 44 staff in a factory and been losing 4 hours a day production. Generally we have a good understanding and communication but on Monday I asked for any ideas how we can minimize the impact for instance shifting breakfast and lunch into the load shedding times each side of the day. One cheeky bugger chirped no he is not going to do that because he is not hungry then. So that is 176 production hours lost a day trying to keep everyone busy. All our stuff is handmade but needs some basic machinery through certain phases of the day. This combined with a tough retail market certainly makes you wonder how long you still going to be employed but we soldier on

Mikie · « **Reply #46 on:** March 20, 2019, 08:40:52 am »

Quote from: Maverick on March 20, 2019, 08:23:52 am

I have 44 staff in a factory and been losing 4 hours a day production. Generally we have a good understanding and communication but on Monday I asked for any ideas how we can minimize the impact for instance shifting breakfast and lunch into the load shedding times each side of the day. One cheeky bugger chirped no he is not going to do that because he is not hungry then. So that is 176 production hours lost a day trying to keep everyone busy. All our stuff is handmade but needs some basic machinery through certain phases of the day. This combined with a tough retail market certainly makes you wonder how long you still going to be employed but we soldier on

If you start retrenching, you know who to start with

Maverick · « **Reply #47 on:** March 20, 2019, 08:51:41 am »

Quote from: Mikie on March 20, 2019, 08:40:52 am

Quote from: Maverick on March 20, 2019, 08:23:52 am
I have 44 staff in a factory and been losing 4 hours a day production. Generally we have a good understanding and communication but on Monday I asked for any ideas how we can minimize the impact for instance shifting breakfast and lunch into the load shedding times each side of the day. One cheeky bugger chirped no he is not going to do that because he is not hungry then. So that is 176 production hours lost a day trying to keep everyone busy. All our stuff is handmade but needs some basic machinery through certain phases of the day. This combined with a tough retail market certainly makes you wonder how long you still going to be employed but we soldier on

If you start retrenching, you know who to start with

This is a staff member that's very good at what he does and always performs, with 4 sick days in 10 years, I try to take most of these chirps/comments with a pinch of salt and understand the mentality and reasoning behind it

Everyone is frustrated and fed-up with the government and ANC. It is easy to say yes you voted for them, how do you or I know if someone actually voted and for whom

Edgar · « **Reply #48 on:** March 20, 2019, 09:00:20 am »

We have a massive, and I mean massive generator powering our office building. All 17 floors X3 office towers. I can only imagine how much diesel that generator must use for every hour that it is running.

TheBear · « **Reply #49 on:** March 20, 2019, 09:36:23 am »

Quote from: Exploratio on March 19, 2019, 03:27:15 pm

I read that there are 3000 EMPLOYEES doing business with Eskom of which 1000 has been identified. And the rest?

Madupi and Kusile are over budget and behind schedule. Are there not contracts in place to which the contractors are held. I am not schooled in contract law, but some things should be straight forward. You tendered an amount for the project, and you gave a date for completion. Simple.
You don't meet any of the conditions, you start paying penalties. Simple..............or not?

Not so simple. In many cases the reasons for the delays are Eskom and they own penalties to the contractors and suppliers. In others, they pay the penalties, but that does not alleviate the issue at hand, i.e. project not completed.

Welsh · « **Reply #50 on:** March 20, 2019, 09:51:11 am »

Quote from: TheBear on March 20, 2019, 09:36:23 am

Quote from: Exploratio on March 19, 2019, 03:27:15 pm
I read that there are 3000 EMPLOYEES doing business with Eskom of which 1000 has been identified. And the rest?

Madupi and Kusile are over budget and behind schedule. Are there not contracts in place to which the contractors are held. I am not schooled in contract law, but some things should be straight forward. You tendered an amount for the project, and you gave a date for completion. Simple.
You don't meet any of the conditions, you start paying penalties. Simple..............or not?

Not so simple. In many cases the reasons for the delays are Eskom and they own penalties to the contractors and suppliers. In others, they pay the penalties, but that does not alleviate the issue at hand, i.e. project not completed.

Correct.

RobC · « **Reply #51 on:** March 20, 2019, 09:52:19 am »

Last night just before 10, systems have just started giving back clean logs when lights go out... wake up at 12 and see the lights come on... and off again. So here I am thinking ESKOM has tanked... wake up at 3 and see but hey the lights are back on in the rest of the house. MD had turned off the bedside light all the while.
Start up the PC and Windows anounces it is now updating... FFS!! 45 minutes later I can log in and start the update sequence... just finished before 8 and off we go again...

Fok Hierdie Kak!

Beebop · « **Reply #52 on:** March 20, 2019, 10:37:14 am »

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RobC · « **Reply #53 on:** March 20, 2019, 02:34:29 pm »

ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS · « **Reply #54 on:** March 20, 2019, 03:22:57 pm »

Wonder how long it will be until someone Whatsapps me this!!

Seeing I have my phone charged that is!!

Oshkosh · « **Reply #55 on:** March 20, 2019, 08:12:34 pm »

Quote from: KiLRoy on March 19, 2019, 11:49:56 pm

Is it not possible to use battery powered recorders and minimum lights? Surely there must be a simple plan to be made?

All fair & well but now we have to foot the bill for the government's fuckups & still have to pay for electricity that we don't receive & layout extra cash to keep our business running I need a 20/25 kva genie to keep my business running but the cost is between R 60k & R 90k which I can ill afford as business is shit at the moment!

I have also bought 3 x inverters & 6 x 105 amp/hr batteries at a cost of R 5'400-00 each just to keep the Office going as well as the TV & some lights in the TV room so Fuck the ANC & there Government!

TheBear · « **Reply #56 on:** March 24, 2019, 07:40:25 am »

Quote from: ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS on March 20, 2019, 03:22:57 pm

Seeing I have my phone charged that is!!

Unplug immediately, or Eskom will suck all the power out of it to prevent Stage 11 loadshedding!

Stage 11: The come to your house and swap out all your Castle Lights with Black Labels!

Oubones · « **Reply #57 on:** March 24, 2019, 08:24:34 am »

Let us be positive

Start selling backup power units!
I helped a restaurant get their jenny working yesterday, they have been waiting for the techie for 3 weeks already!

Bie · « **Reply #58 on:** March 24, 2019, 08:47:09 am »

New problem on the horizon. I see our municipality is one of those with defaulted payments to Eskom and for which Eskom plans to shut down power supply at daily intervals in an attempt to get their money. IMHO the consumers will bear the brunt, the financial loss and inconvenience due to Municipal incompetence and corruption. Totally unacceptable.

Welsh · « **Reply #59 on:** March 24, 2019, 08:49:25 am »

Quote from: Bie on March 24, 2019, 08:47:09 am

New problem on the horizon. I see our municipality is one of those with defaulted payments to Eskom and for which Eskom plans to shut down power supply at daily intervals in an attempt to get their money. IMHO the consumers will bear the brunt, the financial loss and inconvenience due to Municipal incompetence and corruption. Totally unacceptable.

it has to come, luckily I am a direct Eskom customer, not municipal😎