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Sad news - biker hit a kudu outside Kimberley
« on: March 19, 2019, 08:19:51 am »
https://www.iol.co.za/news/south-africa/northern-cape/pics-biker-killed-in-kudu-crash-19963428

Be VERY careful riding at night!

And why the police is in dire trouble "The Kimberley police on Monday confirmed that a culpable homicide case was being investigated following the incident."

Really? Against the dead kudu? Why don't they have the savvy to realise that it was an accident not to be investigated? - they waste resources!!! Both rider and kudu are dead and there was an eye witness! Because of such mindlessness the country is in such a sad state  :sip:
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Re: Sad news - biker hit a kudu outside Kimberley
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2019, 08:22:49 am »
Sorry to hear that  :-\

Yeah biking on the open road at night is very risky.  Good vision is a biker's best friend.

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Re: Sad news - biker hit a kudu outside Kimberley
« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2019, 08:27:58 am »
Tragic, but yes, I'm also confused as to why "a culpable homicide case was being investigated"  :patch:
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Re: Sad news - biker hit a kudu outside Kimberley
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2019, 08:30:30 am »
Possibly against the owner of the kudu.

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Re: Sad news - biker hit a kudu outside Kimberley
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2019, 08:30:53 am »
https://www.iol.co.za/news/south-africa/northern-cape/pics-biker-killed-in-kudu-crash-19963428

Be VERY careful riding at night!

And why the police is in dire trouble "The Kimberley police on Monday confirmed that a culpable homicide case was being investigated following the incident."

Really? Against the dead kudu? Why don't they have the savvy to realise that it was an accident not to be investigated? - they waste resources!!! Both rider and kudu are dead and there was an eye witness! Because of such mindlessness the country is in such a sad state  :sip:

R.I.P  biker.

The case being investigated will be to see if the kudu belonged to someone and if so, why it was on the road, i.e. a lack of proper fencing, etc.  Investigating an unnatural death is standard practice and I for one, are very happy to see that they still follow the practice.   :sip: :sip:
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Re: Sad news - biker hit a kudu outside Kimberley
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2019, 08:33:12 am »
I see now in the article it wasn't even that late when they were riding.

The problem with Kudus are that they can leap over almost any fence with ease.
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Re: Sad news - biker hit a kudu outside Kimberley
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2019, 08:34:26 am »
Korrek.

If you know a little about Kudu, you would know that you can't fence them in.....
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Re: Sad news - biker hit a kudu outside Kimberley
« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2019, 08:38:17 am »
Korrek.

If you know a little about Kudu, you would know that you can't fence them in.....

True.  Almost impossible, so if you do own kudus, you had better have proper game fences, especially if you live next to a main road.
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Re: Sad news - biker hit a kudu outside Kimberley
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2019, 08:42:10 am »
Korrek.

If you know a little about Kudu, you would know that you can't fence them in.....

True.  Almost impossible, so if you do own kudus, you had better have proper game fences, especially if you live next to a main road.

It will serve no purpose - who owns the Kudu that walked in the road? No one will be able to prove where it came from, no matter the fencing. This is just silly business from the authorities.
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Re: Sad news - biker hit a kudu outside Kimberley
« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2019, 09:31:19 am »
Korrek.

If you know a little about Kudu, you would know that you can't fence them in.....

True.  Almost impossible, so if you do own kudus, you had better have proper game fences, especially if you live next to a main road.

It will serve no purpose - who owns the Kudu that walked in the road? No one will be able to prove where it came from, no matter the fencing. This is just silly business from the authorities.

I have to disagree.  Our law requires that any and all unnatural deaths be investigated.  It is an important law which we should be happy when it is still in operation.  It will be a sad day for our legal system, already wobbly as it is, if we reach a point where a cop at an accident scene decides whether there is a case, or not. 
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Re: Sad news - biker hit a kudu outside Kimberley
« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2019, 09:35:57 am »
The case being investigated will be to see if the kudu belonged to someone and if so, why it was on the road, i.e. a lack of proper fencing, etc.  Investigating an unnatural death is standard practice and I for one, are very happy to see that they still follow the practice.   :sip: :sip:

I see your point and agree but...

Nobody owns a Kudu, you merely have it on your land if it chooses to be there.
 
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Re: Sad news - biker hit a kudu outside Kimberley
« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2019, 09:40:40 am »
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Re: Sad news - biker hit a kudu outside Kimberley
« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2019, 09:40:48 am »
The case being investigated will be to see if the kudu belonged to someone and if so, why it was on the road, i.e. a lack of proper fencing, etc.  Investigating an unnatural death is standard practice and I for one, are very happy to see that they still follow the practice.   :sip: :sip:

I see your point and agree but...

Nobody owns a Kudu, you merely have it on your land if it chooses to be there.

Yep.  If nobody owns the kudu, then there is no case.  So, if there is no game farm in the area it would be a quick and easy investigation.
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Re: Sad news - biker hit a kudu outside Kimberley
« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2019, 09:43:21 am »
Sad but true that there's nothing to be investigated.
About two years ago a guy hit a kudu on the way to Harties on a Panigale - early morning and clear daylight.......it's just the nature of Kudus to jump fences ( as said above )
 

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Re: Sad news - biker hit a kudu outside Kimberley
« Reply #14 on: March 19, 2019, 09:44:27 am »

Really? Against the dead kudu? Why don't they have the savvy to realise that it was an accident not to be investigated? - they waste resources!!! Both rider and kudu are dead and there was an eye witness! Because of such mindlessness the country is in such a sad state  :sip:

I just remembered the story/joke from Trevor Noah.  People got hit by lightning at a funeral.

The minister said the next day he would investigate where this lightning comes from  :lol8:
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Re: Sad news - biker hit a kudu outside Kimberley
« Reply #15 on: March 19, 2019, 10:03:52 am »

Really? Against the dead kudu? Why don't they have the savvy to realise that it was an accident not to be investigated? - they waste resources!!! Both rider and kudu are dead and there was an eye witness! Because of such mindlessness the country is in such a sad state  :sip:

I just remembered the story/joke from Trevor Noah.  People got hit by lightning at a funeral.

The minister said the next day he would investigate where this lightning comes from  :lol8:

This "investigation" seems just as silly.
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Re: Sad news - biker hit a kudu outside Kimberley
« Reply #16 on: March 19, 2019, 10:06:44 am »


I have to disagree.  Our law requires that any and all unnatural deaths be investigated.  It is an important law which we should be happy when it is still in operation.  It will be a sad day for our legal system, already wobbly as it is, if we reach a point where a cop at an accident scene decides whether there is a case, or not.
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All unnatural deaths have to be investigated. Therefore the correct procedure in this case would be to open an inquest docket, NOT a culpable homicide. It shows how the police fail training and is let loose on the public. I did my 'army' in the police in the 1970's. We got proper academic training and these stupidities would not have happened.
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Re: Sad news - biker hit a kudu outside Kimberley
« Reply #17 on: March 19, 2019, 10:14:47 am »


I have to disagree.  Our law requires that any and all unnatural deaths be investigated.  It is an important law which we should be happy when it is still in operation.  It will be a sad day for our legal system, already wobbly as it is, if we reach a point where a cop at an accident scene decides whether there is a case, or not.

All unnatural deaths have to be investigated. Therefore the correct procedure in this case would be to open an inquest docket, NOT a culpable homicide. It shows how the police fail training and is let loose on the public. I did my 'army' in the police in the 1970's. We got proper academic training and these stupidities would not have happened.
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Let us try to avoid debating semantics, especially of words we read in a newspaper article as we have no idea how correct that was.  Lets also agree to disagree.
« Last Edit: March 19, 2019, 10:17:36 am by TheBear »
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Re: Sad news - biker hit a kudu outside Kimberley
« Reply #18 on: March 19, 2019, 10:41:41 am »
Possibly against the owner of the kudu.

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Re: Sad news - biker hit a kudu outside Kimberley
« Reply #19 on: March 19, 2019, 11:22:57 am »
Korrek.

If you know a little about Kudu, you would know that you can't fence them in.....

True.  Almost impossible, so if you do own kudus, you had better have proper game fences, especially if you live next to a main road.

It will serve no purpose - who owns the Kudu that walked in the road? No one will be able to prove where it came from, no matter the fencing. This is just silly business from the authorities.

I have to disagree.  Our law requires that any and all unnatural deaths be investigated.  It is an important law which we should be happy when it is still in operation.  It will be a sad day for our legal system, already wobbly as it is, if we reach a point where a cop at an accident scene decides whether there is a case, or not.

TheBear is 100% correct. Inquest docket opened by the SAPS, on which a Magistrate will have to make a finding. This is very important, not only for insurance purposes but also for the deceased's estate.....
 
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