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maybe there should be two different bike hiring setups?One for people that want perfect bikes, no scratches, nice paint job, everything prettyand another for people that will drop the bike, a couple of times..... and not be responsible for 'cosmetic' damage and only for mechanical/electrical damage?
Quote from: Bundu on March 24, 2019, 07:55:44 pmmaybe there should be two different bike hiring setups?One for people that want perfect bikes, no scratches, nice paint job, everything prettyand another for people that will drop the bike, a couple of times..... and not be responsible for 'cosmetic' damage and only for mechanical/electrical damage?Imagine how those bikes will look after two trips in the hands of French nationals. I will bet you 600 Euros this same poster would have been all over the internet bleating about the shocking condition the bikes were received in for their trip had they opted for choice no2.
but surely get my point? cosmetic, versus mechanical damage... I realise it's a thin line, but does it really make sense respraying a bike after every ride?
Quote from: Bundu on March 24, 2019, 09:36:16 pmbut surely get my point? cosmetic, versus mechanical damage... I realise it's a thin line, but does it really make sense respraying a bike after every ride?As per my earlier post. http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=235339.msg4225490#msg4225490The rental company must be reimbursed for damage caused to their bike(s)Technically, it is their choice to use the money to repair or not.They must just be reimbursed. It is fair.
R6150 for repair and paint? Hayibo!The only thing realistically paintable on a KLR is the tank.I like what Bundu says. I would much rather rent a bike with some honest battle scars than a pristine unit that you must nanny for fear of damaging the paint.
Welcome Ber, yes we south africans are a bunch of crooks, whether it is Zuma stealing or as in your case, but hope everything gets resolved, i cannot believe that people in the rental fraternity do this, but i went the same way in the past with people in the towing business.
Quote from: XTZFegen on March 22, 2019, 10:30:16 amAnyone charging only a R10k deposit for a trip through Lesotho is very brave even on a KLR. Id take that all day everyday. Ive been party to entire headlights units needing to be repalced. Ive see frames crack. Ive seen guys almost get hit by 3rd party drivers and go down to try avoid an accident. Lesotho is a bike breaker and R10k deposit to me is minmal.I wonder what they, as experienced EU bikers, had put aside budget wise for any repairs that might arise from a Lesotho trip? Would be interesting to find out what these repairs would cost in Euros as well.
Anyone charging only a R10k deposit for a trip through Lesotho is very brave even on a KLR. Id take that all day everyday. Ive been party to entire headlights units needing to be repalced. Ive see frames crack. Ive seen guys almost get hit by 3rd party drivers and go down to try avoid an accident. Lesotho is a bike breaker and R10k deposit to me is minmal.
Somewhere along the lines I must be missing something? What I read is the following:The OP admitted to damaging some of the bikes, he even acknowledged some of the costs in a fair amount of detail. He however feels that some of the costs are exorbitant and requests proof of repair/justification instead of the quotes received. By the sound of things he has been requesting this for a substantial period of time, without success, resorting to legal proceedings, which is still unanswered. Hence his grievance. Not?To date our Wilddog jury have not been subject to any photographic evidence of said damage, making it impossible to conclude that the resultant damage is justification to withholding said deposit x 3 = R30,000. To repair and respray to the amount of +-R6k on one bike, over and above Powdercoating, must be quite a bit of damage. I’m totally impartial to this debate, since there’s simply way too little facts to side with either party. What does infuriate me is the recent experience with another rental company. Bikes were presented in a dirty state, brake lever bent, oil levels low, chain tension incorrect, spoke broken and completely absent, heated grips wiring loose etc. This was on bikes 4 - 5 times the worth of a KLR, not that it should make a difference. The question that arise is whether the previous client paid for these defects/damages? And if this is the case, the money was taken without the repairs being done?I guess this remains the prerogative of the owner, but sure as shit leaves a bitter taste in my mouth. Is this not perhaps what the OP is trying to get across?
Guys, I suggest you actually read the terms and conditions of rental next time you take a hire CAR. You will be surprised. Even shocked at what you agree to. A broker I spoke to told me that for a motorcycle rented commercially to multiple riders,one could expect an annual premium of R30k-R40k depending on the value of the bike.Minimum excess payment per claim would be around R10k.Anyone else have figures?
Guys, I suggest you actually read the terms and conditions of rental next time you take a hire CAR. You will be surprised. Even shocked at what you agree to.
Quote from: Fudmucker on April 04, 2019, 06:32:35 amGuys, I suggest you actually read the terms and conditions of rental next time you take a hire CAR. You will be surprised. Even shocked at what you agree to. 100% agree - the devil's in the details ....or at least in the small print.